PDA

View Full Version : Thoughts on Qi Li Xiang (album reviews and comments)


yw37
08-02-2004, 08:03 AM
I just saw the Music Video on Channel V.
Heard it for the first time.

Was kind of disappointed.

Good things: They got 方文山 back to do the lyrics, which is pretty good (as expected!). Sounds like an improved version of 晴天 (Sunny Day off "Ye Hui Mei"). Chord progressions are nothing new, although it is a very catchy song I must admit. I was hooked on Sunny Day, and yes, I am hooked on this song as well.

What I was disappointed by was how it seems like he's not putting any effort in.

The instrumental arrangement is nearly the same apart from the addition of some Chinese music parts, (which he does a lot such as in 東風破 (East wind broke), and in earlier songs... 雙節棍 (Nunchuks) ).

Secondly the Music Video looked like such a lousy job. Seems like they filmed it in one day and didn't really care about it.

What irks me the most is that he is kind of using his popularity to sell his music now. I'm not saying he's not good, not creative or not original. I'm just saying that other Taiwanese singer-songwriters can make music just as good as this song, yet they probably won't sell half as much as he does.

I've been a Jay Fan from the start, and this really does disappoint me a bit. I'm going to buy the album tomorrow when it's out, and we'll see.

moonsilk
08-02-2004, 08:27 AM
Heard it for the first time.
Was kind of disappointed.

What I was disappointed by was how it seems like he's not putting any effort in.

Secondly the Music Video looked like such a lousy job. Seems like they filmed it in one day and didn't really care about it.

What irks me the most is that he is kind of using his popularity to sell his music now. I'm not saying he's not good, not creative or not original. I'm just saying that other Taiwanese singer-songwriters can make music just as good as this song, yet they probably won't sell half as much as he does.



When i 1st heard it,i oso find that it was not as good as qing tian...but as i hear it a few more time,i like the song more than qing tian!Its a very nice song actually.... :excited:

I dun think Jay did not put in any effort... :shy:

Becos he intro some new elements into Qi li xiang...some russian style...and as for the song qi li xiang itself,theres some part of the song which make it sound like overlaps....i feel that its very nice!Its another creation of jay and i think it will take effort and time to come out with all these.... :)

Ive listened to the preview version of jie kou and yuan you hui,they were very nice too!!! :D

The MV is meant to be a simple one becos jay said that this cd is meant to b simple and its suits the summer...once again,i think he does put in effort....
He's oso not using his popularity to sell music...he composes music for the love of it...and im sure that his music are of quality....dun u agaree? :worry:

And we awaited so long for his qi li xiang to arrive!So no matter what,we should look forward to the release of qi li xiang..... :happy:

Hyde
08-02-2004, 08:31 AM
Qi Li Xiang is a the main song and it sells. Yes.
But wait until you hear the rest of the album.
There WAS effort in it. Belive that.
The songs really exceeded my expectations.
And that was the the music critic, not the crazedfangirl talking.

Eternalz
08-02-2004, 08:36 AM
What Hyde said basically. When YHM came out, people were degrading Yi Fu Zi Ming. Once we all retrieved the album for ourselves, the real treasures were found within. I guess its a fair comment about the sole song itself, but to justify the whole album based on one song from an MV that was seen, isn't exactly fair to both Jay and wen shan.

yw37
08-02-2004, 08:39 AM
well yeah...
what i'm just judging is from what i saw - the music video.
i'm not commenting on the album.

but yeah, who knows, maybe the album is good.
i hope it WILL be good, 'cos i really enjoy his music.

cacky
08-02-2004, 08:53 AM
Frankly ... now that you guys have brought up some points in this discussion. I do feel that [七里香] might not be too outstanding a song to be placed as the 主打歌。And since it already is a 主打歌, why is the MV shot so plainly?

Doesn't seem to be the style of Jay, considering his previous albums. [七里香] is beautiful song, that I won't deny. But for someone as talented as Jay, to settle that song for the 主打歌 is a bit weird.

I think he must have had his reasons. Let's wait for more news and interviews to be out and we can slowly see why he chose this song as theme song.

Pugwash
08-02-2004, 09:04 AM
In my opinion, I think a lot of aspects of this song is nice.

For one, the lyrics are really well written. The first thing that attracted to me was the lyrics. I loved all the metaphors in it, especially the part where he says his love is overflowing like rain water.

I think Jay did a really good job of making this song. I don't think it sounds like Dong Feng Po at all. There's always that guitar in the background which you see in the MV and I think you can relate that more to Qing Tian. There are just like one or two parts where I feel that it could be compared to Dong Feng Po.

Lastly, the two downfalls of this song I found were that I can't listen to this song repeatly like I listen to Qing Tian. Maybe it's because it's his tone or how slow the song. The second one is some parts of the music video. Like that last shot.. It was really funky looking how the girl was in front of him and he's singing in the back.

Hyde
08-02-2004, 09:15 AM
Hypothethis: Qi Li Xiang fits the atmosphere of the Season?
LOL pugwash: "Funky" looking. -__- I thought the girl acted fake. But w/e.

The song took me by storm and i find that i have absolutely no misgivings about it at all. I can and have put it on repeat. For more than a week now. And i'm not tired of it.
I'm not sure about the effort part. I guess the song isn't a very difficult one to sing. But each bit was done exquisitely...
Lets not analyse that hard. Ne?

kahel
08-02-2004, 09:15 AM
I think Jay wants to portray utmost simplicity in this song. Like the Orange Jasmine, which looked so pure and simple, the melody he created suits the melancholic lyrics perfectly. What I felt about qi li xiang is that it's coming down to the basics. This might be true to the whole album. Looking at the layout of the inlay card and all.

YHM was about class.

I have to agree with Pugwash on how I can't listen to this song over and over the way I did with Qing Tian. Qing Tian gives me the tingles when I listen to it, especially if I haven't listened to it for a period of time or so.

yw37
08-02-2004, 09:23 AM
I don't think it sounds like Dong Feng Po at all. There's always that guitar in the background which you see in the MV and I think you can relate that more to Qing Tian. There are just like one or two parts where I feel that it could be compared to Dong Feng Po.

It doesn't sound like 東風破. It sounds like an improved version of 晴天, plus some used melody lines from 祝我生日快樂:
They got 方文山 back to do the lyrics, which is pretty good (as expected!). Sounds like an improved version of 晴天 (Sunny Day off "Ye Hui Mei"). Chord progressions are nothing new, although it is a very catchy song I must admit. I was hooked on Sunny Day, and yes, I am hooked on this song as well.

When I mentioned 東風破 I was referring to his arrangement/instrumentation:
The instrumental arrangement is nearly the same apart from the addition of some Chinese music parts, (which he does a lot such as in 東風破 (East wind broke), and in earlier songs... 雙節棍 (Nunchuks) ).

jakinni
08-02-2004, 09:28 AM
I remember reading in some news article that Jay wanted to release Qi Li Xiang as the first single because he wanted to step away from his trend of debuting with something dramatic ala YFZM. Once again, Jay is trying to be a little different.

What irks me the most is that he is kind of using his popularity to sell his music now. I'm not saying he's not good, not creative or not original. I'm just saying that other Taiwanese singer-songwriters can make music just as good as this song, yet they probably won't sell half as much as he does.
I don't understand the problem with Jay mixing up his styles. He's always been about dramatic/funky/original heavy themed songs mixed with simple and sweet ballads that fans love. I mean I don't understand what was so special or unique about Qing Tian or Ni Ting De Dao in his past albums that makes them any different from Qi Li Xiang. Don't get me wrong, I do love all those songs, simply because they are really nice songs, but I didn't think they were especially outstanding when compared to Qi Li Xiang. I think these songs belong in the same category of sweet simplicity. Of course they all have their individual flavour, but things in common are catchy and infectious soothing melodies combined with simple but sweet lyrics. And that's also part of the Jay that I've gotten to known over the albums. So I have no problems with Qi Li Xiang. :happy:

msv
08-02-2004, 09:33 AM
:cry: Oh my.... is that you Jenna? Jenna from the "calling midwest/canada ontario thread" down from the block? Why girl... I haven't seen you in forever! Last time I heard you married that Adam Man Translater and never venture out. Well, I'm so glad to see you're here in JayLand... won't you take the trolley and head down to Small Talk and Social Lounge Territory too? *takes Jakinni's hand*

Sighzzzzz
08-02-2004, 12:42 PM
hai~ yeah.. though im not saying qi li xiang is not nice.. when i listen to it now.. i got a bit tired of it already.. i still feel his past main songs are nicer and much more lasting than qi li xiang.. however.. it's only one song.. it's still a veri beautiful song.. i still cannot force myself to not expect anything to jay.. oh me..

btw, expect some nice songs from the new album.. i think wai po is really a nice nice song.. of course there's yuan you hui and the zhi zhan zhi shang to surprise everybody..

well, jay is still way ahead of ...
let's say, Irons Kuo !? -.-'

danielle86
08-02-2004, 03:48 PM
well.. qi li xiang i think is the improved version of qing tian.. i listen the few times i got bored.. but.. i listened to the cd verson.. i think its really nice..
although the mtv was a bit.. bored.. but overall the song is nice..
the rest of the song also have a new flavour i it.. is undescricable..
its a least better then 8 dimension..
well i think a bit on par to ye hui mei..
but QI LI XIANG IS great too..

fen2h
08-02-2004, 07:09 PM
i think it's a very nice song...i believe that jay DOES put effort in it...
well,let's not judge the whole album just after hearing song : Qi Li Xiang ...

jayMy13aby
08-02-2004, 11:03 PM
ok well when the song came on ..i started off already feeling like the instruments were dominating in the song. i mean i like the melody and all but i wanted to hear his sweet :angel: voice more and i just felt like all the bass and instruments kinda of drowns out his voice too much.( i can still hear his voice but just not as clear as it was in Sunny Day.) but i like the song VERY much. it always happens that some of jay's songs i might not like right away...but it grows on me as i listen to it more. so yea. but this song i liked right away.

About the Video. yes i agree that there needs to be more in it. its practically the same scenic background over again and the girl in the video smiles throughout the whole thing and its kinda of like wat kind of emotion are you trying to convey? lol seriously come on!...you're in a video w/ jay and all you do is smile?? lol :bleh: and no offense to jay but the pearl necklace has got to go! :oops: its cute though when he strums on the guitar and how he whispers in her ear :secret: ...(TELL ME TELL ME! WHISPER IN MY EAR! LOL)...*sigh*

oh yea and i do agree that this does not sound like other songs. this one's more guitar than soft piano sound-a-like sort of thing..

i still love you JAY!! :love: :kisschee:

SiLeNCe
08-03-2004, 02:51 AM
I think it is a good song.. but somehow I prefer his older song.

laruku
08-03-2004, 03:21 AM
okok.. this is a comment ONLY about the song itself Qi Li Xiang. I put it on loop now coz its the best way i can tell if a song is nice (how fast i click the stop button)

anyway, there are plus points on this track.
1) there are some new bits, like the intro of the song. something experimental and slightly different

2) the lyrics are nice and poetic.

3) the wind bit in the middle of the song added atmosphere to it

4) basic arrangement was fine

5) his singing actually improved!

but i have a few qualms:
- the melody is boring. it simply sounds like any other song that jay has written in his career. after so long in the business, you'd think that he would be able to come up with something interesting. i know this is his style, which i am not critisising, but creativity comes with enough skill and expertise. isn't he good enough to try experimenting with entirely different things? i don't believe he will lose all his fans if he try something that is say, rock? (that was just an example) one of the reasons david tao is very much known as a talent is cos his music is always different, gives people a sense of freshness but yet you can still tell that its a david tao song.

i like jay. i think his songs are good (some of them anyway) i like most of what he wrote for other people. but i simply don't understand why he doesn't incorporate that variety into his own music. is he afraid that his fans will not support any new experiments by him?

all i hear about him trying new stuff is in the arrangement. and the arrangement sounds the same after a while.

shinjiewa
08-03-2004, 03:46 AM
well.. i thought qlx like your opinion first... that wasn't strong. :wink2:
but whenever listen to QLX, i understand why jay choose qlx for his fist single..
qlx is simple but has his own 香xiang :) :)
i love his all songs :) :)
maybe i'm too addicted to him :shy: :shy:

NikeSwooshIn
08-03-2004, 04:42 AM
I love the song.. I even got to see the MV in taiwan!! The day I was leaving... it was the last thing i saw on tv. =)

yw37
08-03-2004, 06:14 AM
- the melody is boring. it simply sounds like any other song that jay has written in his career.

must I also add that the chord progressions are similar to his other songs as well. this just adds the boring-ness to the song. I mean it's catchy and all, but it's nothing new.it's like eating the same dish except in a different restaurant or something. it's delicious, but nothing's new.


- one of the reasons david tao is very much known as a talent is cos his music is always different, gives people a sense of freshness but yet you can still tell that its a david tao song.
.....................
- but i simply don't understand why he doesn't incorporate that variety into his own music. is he afraid that his fans will not support any new experiments by him?

Totally agreed. I'm not such a huge fan of David Tao because I can't really agree with some of his stuff, but look at "Black Tangerine" (the last album before he released his Collections). It was very stylish and new and creative, and I totally respect that.

And he (Jay) did less Rock music in this album. (Well less than Ye Hui Mei anyway). Which I was kind of disappointed by.

all i hear about him trying new stuff is in the arrangement. and the arrangement sounds the same after a while.

TOTALLY!!!!!!! He keeps saying how much effort he put into the arrangement, but if you really think about it, he's probably just re-hiring 鍾興明 (one of his arrangement ppl who got nominated in the golden melody awards in taiwan) and other people who arranged music for him before. Or not. He probably re-arranged stuff that has elements a la 東風破 (east wind broke), 雙節棍 (nunchuks), 最後的戰役 (the last battle) etc. And even if he DID put a lot of effort in it, if the audience cannot tell the difference, what's the point?

Now I'm not critisizing him. I heard the whole album, and there are some songs I was impressed by, and some songs I didn't quite like. I was just a bit pissed off when I saw 七里香 (Qi Li Xiang) on MTV. Yeah anyway, I still bought the album, and I'm still supporting Jay yo! :wave:

pop
08-03-2004, 11:02 AM
cateyes,u made a huge mistake!
this topic is NOT about the qi li xiang album!
it's about the qi li xiang song and mv
this shows u didn't read the comments of this topic :shifty:
so i think u should re-open the topic u closed which is for reviews of the new album :dry:

catseyes
08-03-2004, 11:14 AM
cateyes,u made a huge mistake!
this topic is NOT about the qi li xiang album!
it's about the qi li xiang song and mv
this shows u didn't read the comments of this topic :shifty:
so i think u should re-open the topic u closed which is for reviews of the new album :dry:

Well, initially i was going to let this thread to be the album discussion, because i thought since the album is going to be out soon why not let this be the thread for the album review as well? Or do you want 10 individual threads talking about each single song? One thing i am wrong is i didn't anticpate that this thread is steering in the direction of a single song discussion. (oh yes, actually the album is just released so it can't be helped) I admit that. All i can do now is to edit the thread topic to make it more descriptive if you are really so particular about it. Will you help me steer the discussion into the right path since the album is just released today? :wink2:

pop
08-03-2004, 11:37 AM
haha that is WHY i wanted to read some comments and reviews for the new album since it is SUPPOSED to be out today...cuz it's NOT out here in malaysia!! argh!! :wacko:
and no...i dun want 10 individual threads of each single song cuz as long as i have been a member of this forum, there are no such thing yet
maybe qi li xiang album can be the start of such a plan? :wink2:

right after skool i rushed to the nearest CD store to pick my copy and that guy in the shop told me it's not out yet!!!
so basically, i can't start the topic to head to the right direction...sorries!
wait till i get mine first :happy:

candy
08-03-2004, 12:35 PM
I've collected the album today and just glad that the wait is OVER ! (I managed to control myself for not listening to the online versions before the 3rd :rolleyes: )

I'm not going to give a review on every one of the songs here but just commenting on couple of the songs that I'm particularly impressed with..

Track 4 Wai Po (grandmother): surprised by Jay's lyrics, because it's quite personal, as it mentioned his grandma attending last year's Golden Melody Awards and he didn't receive anything. And loved how he wrote: "她 要 的 是 陪 伴 , 而 不 是 六 百 塊 " (What she needs is company, not 600 dollars" :cry:


Track 6 Ge qian: the last part really shocked me..This guy definitely wants to challenge for next year's Best Male Singer. :whistle: :) in LOVE with this song already..

Track 7 Luan wu chun qiu: a lot of variety (in terms of the melody) in this song which was surprising and impressive.

After the very first listen of the whole album it really didn't seem to give me the sort of surprise or 'amazement' like it did with "Fantasy", but I'm now listening to it for the third time and I'm starting to LOVE it. (I think this applies to all his songs, you'll fall in love with it the more you listen to it :love: ).

[Edit: P.S. don't know if anyone noticed, but there are two lines of words printed inside the cd's cover box, which says: "我希望人類不要再有戰爭,我希望和我的愛人永遠在一起。" (I hope humans have no more wars, I hope my love and I will always be together." ]

:blush:

charmed_1009
08-03-2004, 01:55 PM
I'm still waiting for the album to be delivered to me... :rolleyes: I asked my friend to go get it from the store i pre-ordered from....

So far..the song i found myself falling in love with at first sight(or maybe hearing for this matter) was Jie Kou...Excuse...I love that song!and ironically...Jay pens the lyrics!YEAH!I love the melody of the song..and when Jay writes the lyrics...it makes the song even more nicer.... :love:

yw37
08-03-2004, 02:33 PM
So far..the song i found myself falling in love with at first sight(or maybe hearing for this matter) was Jie Kou...Excuse...I love that song!
Haha yeah, I heard it too. It's one of his best slow songs / ballads so far.

... Jay pens the lyrics!YEAH!I love the melody of the song..and when Jay writes the lyrics...it makes the song even more nicer....
Aww I wish Jay wrote the lyrics! Sadly the lyrics were written by 宋建彰... yeah some random dude. Don't think I've seen his name on any of Jay's songs before... probably his first time writing lyrics for Jay? Dunno...

dazzlette
08-03-2004, 03:06 PM
I've collected the album today and just glad that the wait is OVER ! (I managed to control myself for not listening to the online versions before the 3rd :rolleyes: )

[Edit: P.S. don't know if anyone noticed, but there are two lines of words printed inside the cd's cover box, which says: "我希望人類不要再有戰爭,我希望和我的愛人永遠在一起。" (I hope humans have no more wars, I hope my love and I will always be together." ]



hey candy.. I was exactly like you.. I didn't want to listen to the online versions either. So this is the first time I'm listening all the complete songs... And I noticed that thint in the box too!! I was so pleasantly surprised when I saw that.. :excited:

Well, right now, I can't say I like all the songs in this album.. but the songs are really slowly growing on me. I will review the album proper when I have had more listens. So far the tracks that I really like are Zhi Zhan Zhi Shang (I love the piano!! ), Qi Li Xiang and Yuan You Hui ( I really miss his R&B tracks) and Ge Qian( I love the way he tries to hit the high notes).. But lyrics wise I really like Wai Po cos it's so personal. His style is definitely there though sometimes I really do feel he's not pushing himself enough musically..

yw37 About 7lx I'll just share my $0.02 worth. I don't know much about music to comment on music arrangement and chord progressions but I do think that Jay kept the melody simple cos it fits with the poem that Vincent Fang wrote. The poem talks of a simple kind of love and if you look at the words, it's not Vincent's usual style either. It's more like a student who wrote the poem rather than a writer. I think that Vincent wrote the poem first and then Jay added the melody so it's maybe Jay was limited and couldn't make a more exciting and original melody.

yw37
08-03-2004, 03:31 PM
Guys I just discovered... well after I listened to the whole album and looked through all the lyrics... I found out this part of the song "Grandmother" (in which he wrote the lyrics)... he kinda said stuff... and I kind of understand why he isn't putting much difference in some of his songs now...

否定 我的作品 決定在於心情
Deny my works, depends on the mood
想堅持風格 他們卻覺得還歐顆
I want to keep my style, but they think it's only OK
沒驚喜沒改變 我已經聽了三年
No surprises, no changes - I've heard these comments for 3 years
我告訴外婆 我沒輸 不需要改變
I told Grandma, I didn't lose, I don't need to change...

Anyway, after listening to the album, I think it's definitely worth the buy. Yeah he's kept a lot of stuff. For instance he used the same chords in 爸我回來了 (Dad I'm Home) and 梯田 (Rice Fields) for the song 外婆 (Grandmother); and for 園遊會 (Tour Garden Meet) he uses the same chords / elements as 龍捲風 (Tornado), 開不了口 (Can't Speak), etc. 藉口 (Excuse) is not very different from some songs such as 安靜 (Silence) and 黑色幽默 (Black Humour). In 將軍 (General) you are sort of reminded of 半獸人 (Orcs) or 以父之名 (In The Name of the Father). Oh and 七里香 (Orange Jasmine) sounds like 晴天 (Sunny Day) as I mentioned before.

But there are lots of new things... Such as his best slow song ever - 擱淺 (Stranded)... I think it's his best slow song ever! The rock music arrangement in 困獸之鬥 (Duel of the Trapped Beasts) is pretty new, and the melody and stuff is pretty good as well. 亂舞春秋 has the same rapping style he's used to, but new material is added. Which is really good. That said, although 將軍 (General) and 止戰之殤 have the same rapping style, he has new elements as well, just not as much diversity as 亂舞春秋. And I like 我的地盤 (My Territory). I find it really funny how he keeps pronouncing the R's. Hahaha. So cute.

Yeah, generally I really like the album. And I think it's better than Ye Hui Mei. Yah.

masamune
08-03-2004, 04:01 PM
I think this an AWESOME album!!
When 8D came out, it had some good, some bad.
When YHM came out, it was better than 8D, but there were some songs that weren't memorable.

This album IS WORTH IT!!! 5 STARS! The songs sound better than the crappy preview clips! It's SO much better when it's clear.

masterCP
08-03-2004, 04:22 PM
just listened to QLX the whole day at work! :D

I sense Jay's maturity in this album. It's full of soul--the poppish, youngish Jay is nowhere to be seen! There are traces of his previous songs from other albums, some might sound familiar but the rendition remains fresh. Track 6 Ge Qian is indeed 'dramatic', like he's batting for the Best Crooner next year. :) Track 9 Yuan You Hui is my current fave, would immediately grab the ears of any RnB fan.

the 2-min samplers did no justice at all. heehee, QLX should be devoured whole! Savor every bit of it! :happy:

taiwanguonanhai
08-03-2004, 07:02 PM
Well I just got the CD today in Taipei. I like it a lot. However.......

I feel that the music is exactly the same as 葉惠美. While they are new songs in terms of lyrics and what not, the style feels like it really isnt new. There are the 妳聽得到type songs and the 同一種調調type stuff.

I dont know what to say about that. It doesn really bother me since I like the style of 葉惠美. It just makes me think that while Jay was creative with composition, its still the same sort of sound.

On the flip side....I feel that the album is good. The tracks have that good quality that can only come from Jay's musical genius. Some of the lyrics are a little meh. But I definitely feel that the album is good. Just not as unique as Jay could have made it.

xJayChoux
08-03-2004, 07:42 PM
i bought the album today.

i think there aren't many differences between the songs on this album. if you listen to Ye Hui Mei, you'll be able to 1 or 2 slow songs...and then it will bring you to some rock/rap songs...

but this album is more...mature, the lyrics are very well written by Jay and Vincent Fang. some people might find it simple, but the meaning behind each song are very meaningful.

moogleonxtc
08-03-2004, 08:29 PM
Time for my one post a year.

===
Album Review

Jay Album - Introduction. Wow...but pure pop.
Fantasy - Raw and Creative. It's fresh, but not refined.
8D - Mature pop sound, but a little bit inpersonal. Also some songs that were mediocre.
YHM - Really high quality but abstract... first appearance of rock. People who listen to this album first might be turned off if they don't get into it.

QLX - I think this album has it all. It's mature and creative in a sense that no one else could have made it. Not only are the lyrics personal, but he has really learned to use his voice as a tool of emotion.

And all the songs are immediately listenable, none of the abstract of YHM. But the songs are just as deep, and have (I think) even more personality.

I think he is finally comfortable with his style. He isn't trying to impress us or the world with weird compositions and special effects (Shuang Dao). As a result this album is simply beautiful. It's like comparing candy to fruit. Candy might be sweeter, have a lot of marketing, and be in a fancy package. But after you eat a lot you get sick. Fruit is simple and unpackaged, but leaves you with a wholesome feeling.

Pros: Mature. Listenable. Personal. WHOLESOME.
Cons: Wo De Di Pan gets repetitive...Jiang Jun is like 4th track on Jolin's castle.
Verdict: A non-flashy but more "real" and matured YHM.
===
My opinion- I disagree with the idea that Jay has to make something "new" in every album. There is a difference between creativity and gimmicky.

You can have a "gimmick" song where it might sound "wow" the first time, but are you really going to listen to it 100 times? I've listened to Jay's songs over 100 times each, some over 1000. For example, David Tao's songs sound dated and I can't even go through them 3 times without quitting.

Gimmicks are cool for a period of time, but creativity is timeless. Bach, Beethoven, Wagner were all creative. Yet you can still listen to them now. All there songs are the same classical "style", of course, but would you say they are bad because they aren't flashy and new?

If you want flashy and new, listen to KPop or American (or HKPop...ugh). It will last you a month at most. (Real) Chinese culture is about depth and longevity, and I think Jay's music reflects that.

kuo
08-03-2004, 09:30 PM
i agree with some of what yw37, said, when i first listened to jays new songs, it sounded like he didn't put a lot of effort into his songs, but after listening to them for several times, they started to sound better. I think that you can hear some differences in the music in this album compared to the past albums, and i'm starting to like the new elements that he put in.

Pugwash
08-03-2004, 09:46 PM
I think that Jay injected so many new elements in this new album. He's so unique! If I were told to describe his song, I wouldn't be able to tell you in words because it's just so hard.

I give this album a 10/10 because I like every song whereas on previous albums, there were always songs I never got used to.

HKHero
08-03-2004, 10:15 PM
i love all the songs on this album... except for track 8 (desperate fight) ... uhhh its just not jay... it sounds like one of david tao's song, i think its called black tangerine... but overall i am satisfied with the album

kewlpiggy88
08-04-2004, 08:28 AM
i think moongleoxtc has a really good point about the gimmick part. most of jay's songs i can listen over and over, but other artists' songs get old within a few months. his songs really are timeless, and that's what makes him JAY. we all expect new and fresh things from him every year because he was new, fresh, creative, original, and unique from everybody else when he came out.

and because he was different from the others when he came out, we expect him to be different year after year...but maybe creating those different sounds isn't his style. i mean, if he came out with like...a big rap song with bad words and sexual references and pop and african drums all into one (okay, just imagine a really abstract song), it would be different from others, but that wouldn't be his style, and he would be forsaking his own style for the pleasure of his audiences.

but i also get what some of you are saying about similar chords and stuff. sometimes i wish he had a totally different song, yet still is very Jay-sounding (okay, that's probably an oxymoron)

sorry if i don't make any sense...i tend to ramble and not get to the point.

anyway, i love the personal message of grandma; the peace, not love message of dying young stops war; the prettiness of qi li xiang; and MY FAVORITE so far stranded. OMGOSH THE VOCALS - they are OUTSTANDING. the others i still have to listen more!

mjay
08-04-2004, 09:04 AM
Yes!! I think the album is just unique..it's like a compilation of all the different styles of music we've heard from him before!! It's just so amazing!! Oh, Vincent Fang's lyrics are sooooo beautiful...i think the songs in this album carries more thought and feelings that we can relate to..which makes it extra special..
I think that track 9-Yuan You Hui sounds like 'Broken string'(duan le de xian)
Actually, i don't really care about the mv's...they all look nice as long as there's many shots of Jay!!!

Ice
08-04-2004, 09:17 AM
Firsly, I was disappointed in the cover, then I was a little disappointed when I finished hearing the songs! :dry:
I prefer the songs in the ablum ye hui mei even though in this ablum, there's some sort of an improvement in his singing techniques!
I had another "blow" when I watched the MV! It was totally lousy.
But overall the songs are ok for me! :wink2:
And I just love the lyrics! There's so much "hidden feelings" in them! Meaning from the lyrics of the song, we can tell what JAY is really like in his life! Example the song Grandmother.
Whatever that is, his disc will be played over and over again till his next release next year! :)

pop
08-04-2004, 11:28 AM
i've just bought the album today!
and here are the results and certain observations of the new album

1)it gives a very...i mean VERY different overall feel of the album
jay album-ordinary album...just a try out at debut to the music world
fantasy-R&B album...superb
8 dimensions-darkest (in terms of the overall feel) jay album
ye hui mei-brightest(in terms of overall feel) jay album

QLX-simple, laidback, faraway album, it's like listening to a foreign album
u get the foreign feeling...like u are in another place
it's like u just got a CD from a very far away place...u get wat i mean.. :D

the overall feel is good
but i think the tracklisting is not properly arranged
all the good songs are concerted in one part of the CD
track 2-6 are all the good songs
track 7-10 excluding track 9 are CD fillers!
i especially dislike track 7
the melody is so forgettable!
when i listened to this song for the second time, i wondered to myself "did i hear this song just now?"

well...maybe this album needs getting used to///
otherwise, the ranking of this album is at
1)8-dimensions- 7 good songs
2)fantasy-9 good songs
3)QLX-6 good songs
4)ye hui mei-6 good songs
5)jay album-3 good songs

petricia
08-04-2004, 03:14 PM
Well... Frankly, i was very surprised at the choice of Qi Li Xiang as the first song to be aired.
I guess i'm just too used to the "impact" that YFZM had given me. And the melody dun really stays in the head... like many others had said, it sounds like Qing Tian. :hmm: However, after a week of listening to my own radio recorded version, i kinda feel that it isn't that Qing Tian after all... It is like some have said, (sorry but i forgot who) it is simple and it match the lyrics that Vincent wrote. They goes well together. :)

Finally i got my hands on the album and i guess... The "Impact" of YHM is gone... In exchange, i have gotten a really soothing and familiar album... I was listening to purely the music first... so all sounds terrific to me... they so familiar and yet... different in certain aspect... I didn't study music b4 and dun even understand the written notes on the lines.. hence i certain have no idea what chords are! But they are just differences in little way that makes the songs a new song.. "m i making any sense?? :wacko: "

However i guess for certain songs, the real impact comes to me when i was reading the lyrics while listening to it the second time... like wai po (Grandma), Zhi Zhan Zhi Shang (the last song in the album)...

And i think that the vocal is not bad this time... at least i like the way he sings in this than in YHM. Generally... i like all the songs but i especially love the faster songs like, My territory(wo de di pan), General (Jiang Jun), Ruan Wu Chun Qiu (track7), Kun Shou Zhi Dou(track 8) and of coz Grandma and Zhi Zhan Zhi Shang... :happy:

No particular songs that i dun like... Like i say, it is all the stuff we are familiar in... However, while listening to Excuse, a thot popped up in my mind... Its lyrics seemed to be the male counterpart of the song, Dao Dai by Jolin... :sweat: Just a tot.. dun throw things at me...

And teh 6th track, Ge Qian... It give me a shock.... I was sitting in the darkness enjoying teh song when he kinda suddenly sings loudly and the high pitch... erm... it was one of the songs that gave me an impact immediately... i try to find which song it was immediately... anyway... i think i am the only one that was "shocked" by that song... :sweat:

pop
08-04-2004, 04:35 PM
haha nope i'm sure you're not the only one who got shock
me too! i guess will get a shock especially those who put the volume to full blast like me :oops:
well actually i got a few shocks when i first listened to this album, as in shocking sudden loud sounds like wat u've mentioned in track 6 and track 7 :laughing:

after i listened to it for the fifth time already, i think i can take back my remarks
there are 8 good songs in this CD excluding track 7 and track 8

yah track 8 is probably the worst jay chou rock song i've ever heard!
after the magnificent nuo fu and the breath-taking shuang dao on ye hui mei, the rock song kinda disappoints :oops:

ninja118
08-04-2004, 04:59 PM
The guy who wrote the lycrics.. his name is very familiar.. is he one of the guys in Nan Quan Ma Ma? He's using his real name.. anyway there's some gd and some bad comments. I have yet to collect jay's album so I can't say anything.. But I do like his qlx.. :rolleyes:

Haha yeah, I heard it too. It's one of his best slow songs / ballads so far.


Aww I wish Jay wrote the lyrics! Sadly the lyrics were written by 宋建彰... yeah some random dude. Don't think I've seen his name on any of Jay's songs before... probably his first time writing lyrics for Jay? Dunno...

invis
08-04-2004, 05:31 PM
Hooray i finally got my hands onto 7lx last evening... couldn't stop listening! in fact i don't even have time to watch the MVs... but i'll love to watch zhi zhan zhi shang's MV after seeing all the descriptions... it's a song with lots of imagery...

wo de di pan- a song that i couldn't get used to at first... but later i found it cute, esp his pronounciations... the starting of the song reminds me of the start of a movie... maybe the effect is there on purpose... *lol*

qi li xiang- oh what can i say... my fav song (for now) on this album! actually i got a little bored at first in the middle of the song, but later i fall in love with it again... and the lyrics! or rather, the poem! so beautiful...

jie kou- i was touched by the simple tune of the chorus... it's a good song for ktv i guess... but the lyrics are reused...

wai po- very personal lyrics by jay! now we know more about what he thinks and feels... i like the little girl's voice too... and i'm once again touched by jay and his grandmother's relationship...

track 5, 7, 8, 9- haha can't remember much... i don't really like fast songs too! but the small part in track 7 was very cute... suddenly a hp rang and jay picked up, saying a few lines about asking for a packet of chicken rice with egg... :laughing:

ge qian- love this song, esp the part he went high... highest note he ever went... somehow his way of singing for the first part was a little weird? or is it just me...

overall i love this album! so i'm disturbed why people didn't find it as good... it does reuse some chords and elements of YHM and previous albums, but the concept is more polished and mature! or maybe i'm just bias... >_< but the hidden line of words in the cover was the first thing i noticed.... hehe~

moogleonxtc
08-04-2004, 08:14 PM
Everyone is mentioning the chords... I'll interpret it as the notes he starts the song on and bases the song around.

If you've ever tried singing Jay's songs, especially matching it with piano, the starting notes and gaps in notes (hard to explain but while Western singing is based on octave, Chinese is 5 "gaps") are the same.

That's because every person has a certain vocal range. Voice training can't make the range greater, but can only make the top and bottom of a person's range sound better.

Every (human) singer has these limitations.
I think its unfair that we are expecting Jay to not only be unique, but super-human;)

kilaalaa
08-04-2004, 08:27 PM
Haven't heard enough of Qi Li Xiang to really say anything much. I remember last year being a little disappointed when i first heard Ye Hui Mei but now I love YHM so I guess I still need more time for QLX to grow on me.

I love Yuan You Hui (Track 9) though. Can we have more rnbesque songs please, Jay? Haha

yw37
08-05-2004, 06:18 AM
And teh 6th track, Ge Qian... It give me a shock.... I was sitting in the darkness enjoying teh song when he kinda suddenly sings loudly and the high pitch... erm... it was one of the songs that gave me an impact immediately... i try to find which song it was immediately... anyway... i think i am the only one that was "shocked" by that song... :sweat:

OH YEAH ME TOO!!!
I was listening, and it was a nice song... and suddenly a very high D-flat appears, out of the blue -
and I JUMPED!
(I did, and I'm not ashamed to admit that I did. Bleh)

But it wasn't a bad high note, it was kinda new. That is also why I think this is a good ballad, cos' its quite different from his other ballads, don't you think?

sUm^MeR
08-05-2004, 07:20 AM
Okay, let's talk about chords now.

Chords could be described as 3 different tune compiled together to form a harmony as the base of the song. Many people are complaining that Jay kept using the same chords transitions, but as far as I know from my music teacher, there is some kind of a rule of thumb in chords transition. For example, C7 or Bes have to go to F or Am has to go to Dm before shifting to G and ends with C. You can't really make random chords transition just to be creative or abstract or it would sound absolutely horrible. I tried to write a couple of songs before, trying to make new transitions and stuffs, but it just doesn't work. So if you are expecting Jay to create another sort of chords transition in his songs, I'd say... BETTER NOT, or the song would sound absolutely pain in the ears. So ppl, please stop complaining about chords transition. If you want me to, I can name the same chords transition that David Tao made. (I'm a Dave listener too, so I know). For example, his "Regular Friends" has the same chord transitions as "Twenty Two", "I love you" has the same chord transition as "Angel" ... so basically, they just need to follow the rule of thumb for chord transition, that's why they would somehow sound similar.

I haven't got the album in my hand, so I can't really comment on it. But I heard the preview, and in first listen, I could say this album is much broader than YHM, and much more refined than Fantasy. I will give in depth review after I listen to the whole songs.

wingh2daizzo
08-05-2004, 07:20 AM
yup i heard it toooooo, but its not bad, its a different feel to it. This album is very unique in that theres a little surprise everywhere

Iceblade24
08-05-2004, 11:35 AM
I enjoyed the MV since it has that rural feel to it which is what I think the song is supposed to be about anyways. I enjoy the album and people who say that he should experiment with new things need to realize there a limited number of genres out there for music like rap, hiphop, etc. He can't just pull more styles every single time around for 5 years in a row; like someone said earlier, he is still only human. Overall I enjoyed the album but the few songs I didn't particularly like were the one with the annoying kid's voice (don't know why, the kid is just annoying as hell). Some of the rap was only moderately well done. However, his slow songs still are the best that I have ever heard. I didn't think Qi Li Xiang sounded a lot like Qing Tian at all, even though the two are being compared; for one, qlx has a much softer voice and the instruments used are also reminiscent of more traditional asian instruments while QT uses more modern ones without that asian tinge. They are distinctly different in their feeling and I thought that the MV was quite fitting for qlx; maybe it's because I like the song so much that I don't mind watching almost anything with it. Another good album and yes, although some may say it is "more of the same" this "more of the same" is why I like him.

jtayk
08-05-2004, 01:27 PM
When I first heard the 2nd track from the download link in our site that was a premiere from a radio station I was disappointed. Didn't know that it was because of my
damn loud speaker that didn't make me hear all the little beautiful sounds. But I just kept listening to it again and again and started to get addicted. But when I bought the new album, the cover and everything was so great and impressive. The first time I heard the first song I was like :crazy: ..... The twisted voice reminded me of Mark Morrison. But when I actually heard the 2 nd track again from my stereo, I was like :excited: ..... It was so damn great. It was like a happy tiny version of Dong Feng Puo. So nice and breezy. Track 5 is also rocks. I like the beat of it, it is really great to move along. The 9th track is not bad, got a kind of dreamy and breezy to it, too. :happy: The last, of cause, when I heard it from the first time I thought it was so so. When I listen to it carefully, there are so many sounds of instruments to it. Piano is so great, it is SO JAY :) . It is so outstanding. I lent it to my collegue who is a fan of Tata and don't like Jay, he listened to the last track and said it was great. He gotta go and buy the CD .

I think Jay music is the music that needs a bit of a use to to like. Jay did it great again.

jay_fantasy8
08-05-2004, 04:05 PM
For some reasons, this album seemed to have recieved a pretty lot of critics. :dry:

I love this album. :love: Not because of the songs, but the improvements in which Jay had tried just add up the points. The styles are in a variety and Jay's effort in trying different things could be seen in this album! For example, "My Territory", he chose to sing it in a strong Beijing accent manner. Which is the first time I've ever heard a singer had done it this way. Challenges.This is what I like.

Applause for the lyrics in this album too. :happy: Vincent did an awesome job in Qi Li Xiang and Zhi Zhang Zhi Shang. Not forgetting Wai Po, which was penned by Jay. As usual, surprises were always hidden within his album. The lyrics of Wai Po is like Ti Tian, in which Jay added a few of his thoughts and feelings. Another interesting reason on why we should read the lyrics.

I do like the other albums too. I just feel that, Jay did put in effort in this album. I thought that his efforts should be appreciated. When listening to other singer's album, do you have the new feel that Jay always have in his whole new production? Frankly speaking, I do not.

Q^Guy
08-05-2004, 04:53 PM
I agree with Jay_fantasy8 ya..
Jay's music rhythm is somewhat similar in most of his songs.. But the fact that he can write so many nice songs is indeed marvellous. Qi Li Xiang is really a new dimension in Jay's progress in his music. I feel the songs now consist of even more different styles. I believe Jay will continue with his great work and produce even more fantastic works.. 3 cheers 4 Jay..!!

rou
08-05-2004, 05:10 PM
yup yup... a new dimension in jay's music... actually when i first heard the album i was sort of disappointed and skipped quite a few songs before the songs finish... probably because many of the songs sound kind of alike when i first heard them... i only remembered listening to the slower songs more intently at the first round like qi li xiang, jie kou, ge qian n yuan you hui. n i liked them all. i think jay has somewhat improved in his singing as in vocal. erm yup after a few rounds i find other songs very interesting also. i particularly like the short piano play in one part of wo de di pan.. very cool and fresh. oh ya his rock attempt has also shown progress in kun shou zhi dou... hehe. so far i havnt really fell in love with the album but i know i soon will... hehe. overall i would say it's quite a new feel of jay. not just in the style of his music but also the lyrics. applause to jay. im starting to look forward to his coming album already. anticipating the genius's new creation of music. ; )

kewlpiggy88
08-05-2004, 06:56 PM
that's true about what jay_fantasy8 said...it's hard to get the juan shr part if you don't naturally talk like that, and trying to say it really fast is even harder. i mean..i can't even understand some beijing people when they talk!

babyxv
08-06-2004, 06:03 AM
i'm just going to start off by saying that this album DEFINITELY isn't disappointing (like jay could be disappointing in any way, for me at least). i think the majority of the subject matter has shifted. on YHM, there was A LOT of lovey-dovey songs. this album, however, has definitely shifted the focus. actually, there's so much variety that there doesn't seem to be a focus.

jay went a few steps further in experimenting with styles and sound effects/clips used in the songs. the reason why his music is SO popular is because he adds such unique touches to each of his songs. i've listened to this album... five or six times in the past few days and i still can't decide on a favorite (and i purposely didn't give my comments based on my FIRST IMPRESSION, because first impressions almost ALWAYS change for me). i LOVE how he added that phone call towards the end of "luan wu chun qiu", ordering his 雞排飯 (ji pai fan), with egg. haha so random, but not in a bad way. i also love the disney-ish music in the intro of "wo de di pan"; it totally threw me off when the song itself was so irrelevant. and in "jiang jun", i love when the guy goes "BABYYY, JIANG JUN!" :tongue: the way the guy says "jiang jun" is just hilarious.

the songs i ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY like on this album are:
1. jie kou: I LOVE BALLADS. there aren't many sad, depressing ballads i DON'T like.
2. ge qian: same explanation ^
3. kun shou zhi dou: the first time i listened to it, i KNEW it would become one of my favorites. it helps that the american music i listen to is rock. i don't even know what this song is about, because i'm so lost in the music and the way he sings. ah it's great.

... i find it weird that his 主打歌 (first single, kinda?) is never my favorite. haha

SimpleBlackHumor89
08-06-2004, 07:08 AM
well i love all the ballads. and wai po almost makes me teary! haha it's just so sad about him reflecting back on that award night... :cry: i think this is so much better than YHM... i think another similar album to this by jay is ' fantasy' all the songs are good cept for one... i didnt like kun shou zhi dou... it's nice listenable song... but mayb it's cos im not really into that rock.. im more into soft rock n rb

i love jie kou, it's a slow sweet, and sad song... n i could also keep up singin too.. haha my chinese is not my best language. but it's like practically tha only song i could sing other den 7LQ. this album is definetly one of jay's better albums... the first song, my territory is a funny song.. when i first heard it, i was like ?? what's up with the 'ers' but then as i listened to it more, it sounded amusing, haha jay better take home alota awards for this album :excited:

yw37
08-06-2004, 07:09 AM
my favorite song, apart from 擱淺 (Stranded), has to be 困獸之鬥 (Duel of the Trapped Beasts).
and he has different rapping styles too. in some other songs.

cacky
08-06-2004, 09:01 AM
Gonna give my own review after listening to the album over and over again ... ... :)

1) 我的地盘 : A very strong Beijing accent. Very challenging song for Jay as he not only has to do the accent, but he has to rap it fast. I am really impressed. As usual, he begins the song with a slow pace and shock you with something really jumpy and fast.

2) 七里香 : What can I say ... the theme song of the album, though I still feel that it should have been something else with more gusto, but after listening to his interviews about why they chose [七里香] as the title, I can understand. Even Jay needed convincing himself, that it was a good title. Hhahahahha. I guess this song is something that just grows onto you. When I first heard it, I thought nothing much of it. But when I read the lyrics, it touched me. Vincent Fang has real big talents. And on top of it, I love the instruments used for this song.

3) 借口 : This song just got me right from the start. The piano ... the lyrics ... Jay's very own feelings put into the song. Sings it with so much feelings as though he has just gone through all that recently. Just the song to listen to when you are feeling melancholic. Puts you in the mood straightaway. When listening to it ... I just wish that Jay was saying those very words to me. I make sure I'd turn back immediately, no matter how upset I will be with him.

4) 外婆 : Very meaningful lyrics, shows the depth of Jay's feelings towards his Grandma and towards the Golden Melody Awards last year. It pained me to hear his rap the following lyrics "结果却拿不到半个奖 不知该笑不笑 我对着镜头傻笑 只觉得自己可笑" I guessed it must have been really embarrassing and painful for him when the screen panned shots of him while he didn't get the prizes and all those painful interviews.

5) 将军 : Very gusto, very masculine. Very typical rap that he usually has been doing. But listen closely, he changed his voice, very masculine voice.

6) 搁浅 : Another ballad. Sounds very similar to [开不了口], I mean the style. And a good attempt at making his voice clear and mouthing words well so that everyone can appreciate and it won't put the lyricist's efforts to waste. :brows:

7) 乱舞春秋 : Would really love to understand what these 4 characters mean. Is it supposed to be an idiom? This song just grows onto me. I have to say that it's the best out of all his eastern-influenced songs. Very cute ... and his voice ... changed again. This is definitely a song which I wanna introduce to all my non-Chinese friends. Gives them a different perspective to mandarin songs. And the last part where the phone rang. Just one of Jay's usual antics to try to trick people. But it's innovative.

8) 困兽之斗 : Hmmmmm, hate to say this, but this sounds very David Tao. Is he trying to imitate his style in the hope of impressing the judges like David did? Coz' if Jay's original intention was to do something rock, I think he could have had more choices than to do it this way. [她的睫毛] was definitely a better rock number than this. Everytime I am at this song, I'd skip. Just doesn't get to me. Sorry Jay ... ... my most honest opinion.

9) 园游会 : This has gotta be my most favourite song from this album. Jay and his R&B ballads. I remember listening to Jay mention something in his interview, which said, that he is always known as the R&B king but in truth, he usually has one or two R&B ballads in his album. And this is IT, this is THE song! Whenever I listen to this song, I feel like I'm in his concert holding neonsticks, swaying to this song. Like Jay, I also feel that when listening to this song, I feel like I'm happy in love. I can only seem to conjure up happy images when I listen to this song.

10) 至战之伤 : A little like [以父之名] style with the organ as one of the instruments. But very very Jay style. The usual rap and then accompanyment singing behind.

Overall, I somehow still prefer [叶惠美] to this album, there were more surprises for me then. But I simply cannot DENY all the hard work that Jay has put in his album. For one, he has included more karaoke ballads in this album.

He has also made an effort to pronounce his words more clearly. And he does his own 配音!That's a lot of work as it is.

Jay has also attempted to focus on simplicity in this album. I remember the last album having too many selling points. This album is really out for pleasant listening.

Something you can listen to when you're walking on the streets, cruising on the streets, or simply lying in a field and looking at the sky. Not any notable selling points, but just good ol' Jay producing good songs. I see a lot of lyrics written by Vincent Fang for him this time round and I am glad it is so.

Have always loved Vincent's lyrics. And just listen to how versatile Jay's voice is throughout the whole album, one moment sounding so masculine, the next moment sounding so cute, next moment in his ballad-style voice. Okay, that's my review. Wonder if anyone else felt the same way?

Mushimushi
08-06-2004, 11:10 AM
All the previous news about Jay's song " Qi Li Xiang" has made me hot in the pan for days until i personally listened to all the songs in the CD , that i realised that all Jay's songs are really up to standard. You can hear the various tunes and the different styles in the songs. All the previous "scares" in the news posts are now not a threat anymore. After listening the CD, i have more faith in Jay in his music, Qi Li Xiang is not inferior to Yeh Hui Meh after all! :happy:

This album is just worth your time and its definitely marvellous, incredible!!! :bleh: :D

en_en
08-06-2004, 05:14 PM
I've heard that a lot of people was disappointed. To admit it, I was too, I somehow thought that Common Orange Blossom sounded a teeny bit like Britney Spear's song. >_< *ducks from flying oranges* but as you listen to it, it gets better, track number 8 is my favorite, and track number 4, wei po is pretty good also, I like his lyrics on wei po a lot.

bluedolphin
08-06-2004, 06:29 PM
got the cd and have been listenin over n over again.but the songs that are stuck in my head nw are my territory,qi li xiang,jie kou,wai po and ge qian....

my territory has a really catchy tune though i wun know wad he is singing unless i look at the lyrics....qi li xiang...the song has qing tian's feeling...but while listenin to it the image in my head is different....and after watchin the mv,i dont thing its as bad as some critics made out to be.maybe it looked too simple but they did went to a place with great scenary right....i think the settings suit the song too...

next...jie kou.first time i heard this song,i cried.highly due to the lyrics.made the whole song so sad.somemore is jay who wrote the lyrics.made it sound even more...'close'?if ya know wad i mean.this song will sure be a big hit on air and in ktvs~

wai po.another song where jay wrote the lyrics himself.truly described his affections and understanding towards his grandma and how he felt regarding last year's taiwan golden melody awards.and i love the rap inside...wif the little kid....ge qian is another sad song.and this song is where they claimed its the highest note in it that jay attempted.well.the song overall is great.but the parts where the high notes he sang sounded abit 'stretched and forced' to me.great lyrics though.

....didnt give my review on the rest of the songs as i think i need to listen few more times before givin my comments on them....overall the package might not be as lavish as previous albums but what counts is the music produced.i think from what jay wrote in wai po,he feels contradicted when makin music.this time round the style of the album has changed and there's even not much 'jay style' in some songs,like jie kou.but if he were to remain the same and write songs that sound alike as previous albums,the critics will start yakkin away again.so it seemed whether jay changed or remain his style, there will still be people who will be against him. this is just something that is out of his control.so as his fans,we should listen to his music using out hearts and not our minds and appreciate his hard work and talent =D

linny
08-06-2004, 08:18 PM
RANDOM SONG NOTES BEFORE I BEGIN!
Wo De Di Pan - It reminds me of the Indian Old Bird song for resons incomprehensible to me. I am also impressed with his Beijing accent and laughed several times the first time I heard him sing this.
Qi Li Xiang - Probably my favorite song. There's something about it that's so pretty and soft. *_*
Jie Kou - It's bizarre that this is the most memorable ballad in my mind. Rather hopeful sounding if you go by how his voice goes higher in the chorus for every line.
Wai Po - He raps SCARILY FAST. I like the voice he uses for this.
Jiang Jun - BOLA! XD! This song is just fun.
Ge Qian - Ballad. Pretty.
Luan Wu Chun Qiu - ...
Kun Shou Zhi Dou - The guitars in the beginning very seriously made me do a double take. They sounded so incredibly good. It's a shame the song was so slow. I would have loved to hear Jay try on a fast rock song.
Yuan You Hui - Makes me think of Ni Ting De Dao. It's a pretty ballad. Blay.
Zhi Zhan Zhi Shang - This song gets huge points for the piano and, of course, Jay in mascara. There is something very beauitful and haunting about the melody for this song. Probably my second favorite of the album.

And on to the album as a whole.

Well, to be completely honest, the critics are right when they say there isn't anything new to this album. Certainly, there are little innovations here and there, but it sounds like the same old, same old. This album sounds like a more polished, mature accumulation of all the albums he's made thus far. While there isn't anything necessarily wrong with Jay building on what he's created, it makes the album seem a little too familiar, a little too much like everything else he's made without the added surprise of sounding fresh.

As an album, Qi Li Xiang is fairly solid. There isn't anything I can say against any of the tracks themselves. It's a good album and it keeps the simple feeling that it was meant to have. I especially like the way Jay sings in this album; it seems much more alive and has more feeling than Ye Hui Mei.

Would I recommend this album? To Jay fans, yes. To a new fan? Better to pick up one of the other four he's made. While those albums do have quite a few glitches here and there, they provide the sense of creative energy that attracted me to him in the first place.

knock
08-07-2004, 06:23 AM
1st time i heard his album on 3rd Aug, i though. Man! Everything sounds the same. I can nv differentiate 'General' and 'luan wu chun qiu'. But after many repeating of the album, i love the album. It's so special in it's own way. In luan wu chun qiu. I wondered how he included the network interuption for the telephone call. And i like Jiang Jun! it's so catchy! After thouroughly listening to everything, im gonna proceed to the background music. Haha..

the songs i love
: wo de di pan
: wai po
: jiang jun
:luan wu chun qiu
: yuan you hui
:zhi zhan zhi zhang

And it irritated me when my friend listened to the album and said 'Jay passed his prime already' GRRRRRRRR

shiniobi
08-07-2004, 11:16 AM
yeah. i totally love the album!! somehow i felt that it had lost it "diaoism" in one way or another. his maturity can definitely be felt in this album though!! "zhi zhan zhi shang" totally rocks!! not to forget the diao lyrics in "wai po"!!

AhSeOw
08-07-2004, 12:08 PM
it's kinda good tat jay's orange jasmine is released... i'm relieved... boy, 2 wait 4 1 yr 4 his album is difficult 4 me... :cry: but den, i feel tat orange jasmine is better than his previous yeh hui-mei... his songs r more catchy... yeh hui-mei's 1st 6 songs r nice 2 me.. the rest r nt 2 gd... :? BUT I HOPE 2 HEAR MORE OF SONGS tat he used 2 hv.. like in 8th dimension.. the songs in tat album attracted me when i 1st hear it.. tat was my 1st time hearing jay's songs :tongue: hope he'll create another miracle!!! :wink2: :wink2:

there r only some songs tat is totally possible 2 learn.. they r:
-qi li xiang
-jie kou
-wai po
-ge qian
-kun shou zhi dou
-yuan you hui
-zhi zhang zhi shang

the rest r unfortunately :cry: almost impossible...
this is unlike 8th dimension and fantasy.. the songs can b learned...
haizz.. :? y like tat?

let me do a post motem of the qi li xiang album...
1) wo de di pan- i dunno wat he's singing.. it's too fast 4 me 2 catch.. even wif the lyrics..
but it's a nice song.. sounds like a china man.. :crazy:
2) qi li xiang- kinda like this song... it's simple.. vieri soothing 2 hear.. if u r stressed up.. u cn hear this song.. :rolleyes:
3) jie kou- this song rox big time.. my fav 4 this album.. has a sad tone.. his slow songs usually hv sad tones.. but this reminds me of gui ji... :drool:
4) wai po- this rap rox too.. :grad: reminds me of nuo fu.. this song is trying 2 tell us something.. his disappointment when nt clinching an award 4 his 8th dimension album.. i dunno y.. but it reminds me of long quan..
5) jiang jun- he's too fast.. :bleh: until when i saw the lyrics.. so he's toking abt chess..
6) ge qian- this reminds me of an jing.. :lolabove: the tone.. the lyrics.. the melody... quite catchy..
7) luan wu chun qiu- his mouth is a machine.. :whistle: the fastest of all the raps... i've gt 2 salute him.. this song stayed in my head 4 a long time..
8) kun shou zhi dou- sad 2 say :cry: , i'm disappointed wif this song.. :thumbsdo: like david tao.. i'm nt saying david tao sux.. i oso like david's songs.. but jay is better.. but jay is nt suited 2 do this kind of song... nt quite nice.. i hope i'm wrong.. bcoz his songs nd a long time b4 u find it nice..
9) yuan you hui- another nice song done by jay.. :D solid song.. kinda like jian dan ai... u cnt feel tired hearing this song.. :hmm:
10)zhi zhan zhi shang- i luv his rap start.. :rifle: it mixes quite well wif the chorus, which is sung.. my 2nd pick 4 this album..

sUm^MeR
08-07-2004, 03:09 PM
Okay, now it's time for review!!! I'll list the song starting from my favorite to my least favorite.

Zhi Zhan Zhi Shang
On the first listen, the piano intro gives me a feeling of entering a dark faraway land, and as it started... it gets even more intense. I give props to Jay for being able to create such an thick atmosphere for this song. And his way of rapping is just my favorite, relaxed but prompting. And the chorus was very catchy, is like the melody stuck in your head forever and ever. Plus the accompanying piano sound gives such a dark haunting feeling, sounds depressing yet beautiful. I love all the essence he created in this song.

Qi Li Xiang
The first time I listen to this song, it didn't leave much impression on me. But when I started to ready the lyrics, I feel that there is a reason for the simpleness of the melody. Love the intro so much, like there is this simple and oriental feeling to it. The way Jay sang it was so sweetly indolent, I like the way his voice breaks in the bridge, the part "xing fu Le zhi ge ji jie"... wow, that's like... so captivatingly sweet. And the whole instruments were so layering one another perfectly, it's like... the melody is simple, but the music is so darn rich. And what I love about most is the way this song could create a dreamy picture of romantic scene in my head, it proves how powerful the song is.

Wai Po
Again, this song gives me a certain atmosphere of a dark corner inside one's mind. The melody gives a sad feeling. Love the chords transition, it's so unpredictable, and yet so catchy. I dunno what's so special about this song, but it's just sound different, so personal. I love how the sound of thunders break into the song, and especially love the bridge... it's like the peak of the sadness. I realize that the melody was just repeating itself throughout the whole song, but it never sounded boring. It gives me a relaxing and familiarity feeling. Love it!

Luan wu chun qiu
This song is very GOOD!!! I love the randomness of this song, it's so fresh and creative and unpredictable. It's like you listen to this song and you couldn't tell where he's going to next. And the way he sang was so fresh, it's like very playful and monkey-ish. Whenever I listen to this song, I feel like I'm in a video game world. Plus, it has this intense oriental flavor to it, love all the traditional instruments he's using. This kind of song is very original, and I could say that ONLY Jay would be able to pull this off so neatly. One funny thing was... when the sound of the cellphone rang in the song... I almost thought it was my phone (coz I'm using Panasonic too), and I was like reaching for my bag to search for it, then I realize that it's from the song. :oops: Anyway, Love this song!

Ge Qian
Oh,... this song is lovely. It sounded like a very sad drama theme. The piano intro was quite a simple entrance, like An Jing. And the way Jay sang was so vulnerable, as if his voice is blended with the music. I love the chords transition of the songs, it's very beautifully done,... very unpredictable and non-cliche. The layering orchestra over piano and guitar sound was grand, captivating, and beautiful. Plus, the high notes that he manage to hit was impressive... I would say he really challenge himself to sing this song. The best slow song he ever create.

Jiang Jun
This song is very hiphop.... love the guitar and trumpet intro, how it gets to the beat of the song. I would say this is the song I would never be able to learn, coz the way he raps was soooo fast. Love the chorus, his voice sounded boasting/conceited, which sounded totally cool. And the haunting ghostlike sound and choir sounds at the background near the end, is absolutely GRAND.

Wo de Di Pan
The intro sounds like a Disney's movie soundtrack (very western), and it gets directly into this oriental-sounding chorus. Very neat,... unpredictable and surprising. Good as opening song. The way he raps was impressive, trying with the Beijing accent, but still with his mumbling... cool. And the chorus is very catchy and playful, I absolutely love the chinese essence he create in this song.

Yuan You Hui
The song is nice R&B song that I really miss from Jay. But I have to say that I don't really find the song impressive. The song sounds like other R&B song that other artist could compose, and somehow, it sounds like Will Pan's song that Jay composed (I forget the title) once, so the song is nice and sounds catchy, but it just not unique enough. But I love it, it's just... it doesn't give me a certain kind of impact.

Jie Kou
Yep, I have to list this song as the second last one. Not because this song isn't nice, I personally think the song is good, not to mention the lyrics that Jay especially penned by himself. However the more I listen to this song, the song is too monotone. The chords transition is very predictable and too simple... and the beginning sounded so much like NQMM "Wa Jie." So not many surprise that he offers in this song. But still the song is nice... I still love it.

Kun Shou Zhi Dou
New thing from Jay,... this is the first time he managed to compose a rock song with such an intense chords for real rock song. Very good start for Jay, and I love the song, but I hate to say this, but this song is lacking of originality. It sounded so much like David Tao's Black Tangerine.

Same like Linny, I would say the album is overall a GREAT album. If I were to choose any song that I hate, I won't be able to pick one, because I love all songs in here. But the songs are pretty much predictable, not many new surprises that he offered. It's just the recollection of the styles that he ever tried to work on on previous albums. I guess that's why I love this album in the first listen... I still remember the first time YHM came out, I was shocked by his change of style there,... and I don't feel that impact on 7LX. I would say 7LX is a very listenable album, the music is much more matured, and the variety is broad. This album is like what I have expected of Jay. Nothing much, nothing less. The album itself, I'll rate it 9/10. :)

kirasuran
08-07-2004, 04:38 PM
okok i sorta forgot....and i heard it sumwhere or read it somewhere is the transaltion of 'qi li xiang' also 7 miles something as well as ornage jasmine? or am i totally wrong there? cos like...i was wondering...and i coudlnt find it on the search or maybe i didnt look hard enough..

Jay1988
08-07-2004, 06:01 PM
proofed that jay raelly in hurry for his album ..
track 2,3,4,5,6 all very good
but 8,9,10,1 is normal ..
i get it the song is like the same ....
mayb coz that initial-d shooting ...
but .. its still better that YHM

*meow
08-08-2004, 02:49 PM
after listening to the cd for a kazillion times (it's still on repeat while i'm typing this. haha.), i think that it's not bad.
for track 1 i think the music arrangement not bad.. and that juan3 she2 thingy that jay does is really strange. but still ok.. :oops: then tracks 2 and 9 are those happy love songs.. plus the fact that jay is singing them.. =D i guess it does make people feel happy.. haha. esp track 9 yuan you hui. then tracks 3 and 6 are good too. track 3 is also written by jay. then it's like really sad, like that time an jing was really sad. 6.. the piece of thing that came with the album says that track 6 has jay singing the highest note he has ever sang or something like that.. :oops:
but i think that the most 'creative' track is the luan wu chun qiu. there's this part where his phone rings and he picks it up. i think that's really interesting. :happy: and track 10 has to be one of the best. the lyrics are written really well too. (vincent fang!) yup.. so far this is all i have to say. :oops: i suppose..

kasic_fantasy
08-08-2004, 02:57 PM
hmm...i feel tat dis album is quite a good one...its not very surprising...not alot of new stuff for us to explore... :dry: but still can feel his style n maturity there...its kinda more settled down...but i feel tat its quite risky to come up wif an album when he doesnt know wad he wans... :crazy: mayb he shd think about wad kinda style he wans before making it...coz its quite risky n it may get rejected easily... :glug:
but overall...its still a very good album...all the songs r like the second version of other songs in the other albums...he knows exactly wad his doing....n tats good... :wink2:
qi li xiang is a good album for his loyal fanz....its for us to refresh ourselves wif his style by using new songs... :rolleyes:

eliza
08-10-2004, 04:12 AM
the song totalli rawks!! :) its so peaceful and calm.. but i feel that he shud have wore better clothes in the MV.. he looked kinda sloopy inside!! sad! but yeah.. the MV is so sweet.. and the gurl is so lucky! hahaha

smilepiggy
08-10-2004, 04:32 AM
fartking: its 7 miles fragrance, and also means orange jasmine

for this album, i think its on par with yhm to me. i prefer the slower tracks of this album, like Ge Qian, Jie Kou and QLX of course. :D but the faster tracks are way cool too, i mean, its got it own style and the war theme is really relevant in times like these. (read iraq and US) yeps, hte only thing i though couldnt compare with yhm was that the traks are all quite similar in the music and style (of course, that'snot a bad thing) but i liek YHM's variety. :excited: overall, its a well prepared album, no less!

Dita511
08-10-2004, 06:46 AM
I am going to listen to QLX a few more times before posting my review of the album as a whole (I only received my copy yesterday afternoon). However, what I can say is that on first listen the album impresses me. I like it much more on first listen then I did with YHM. I think there are many more excellent stand out songs, and that the album is a step in the right direction. However, is it better then Fantasy or 8D Space? I'm as yet unsure :? Only time will tell.

As for the MVs, I can only rave. For QLX the MV is very fitting for the song - nothing special, just nice and pleasant. It is a beautiful MV, and I love Jay's look as well.

However, it was the Zhi Zhan Zhi Shang MV on the VCD that blew me away. ZZZS was filmed exceptionally well, and finally made me understand the concept and artwork for the album as a whole. It is possibly one of the best MVs Jay has ever made in my opinion, and it stunned me. A sensational MV for a sensational song :D

yakedo
08-10-2004, 06:06 PM
I post here is that i want to write few of my opinions about a song name Wai Po(外婆), because most of my friends anti-Jay Chou, so i hope that at here i will find some people that agree with me. First, the way i enjoy this album this time different with the previous albums. This time I read the lyrics first b4 i listen to all those song. After i read all 10 songs, there was a song that attract me the most, that is Wai Po. i think everyone here reading this post must already listened to this song, so i will not explain the whole lyric what it said, but just share my opinions why i like this song.

Inside this lyric, there is a part mentioned about表哥,after listen to this song few times, then I discover actually that表哥is himself, but he is using his 表弟perspective to show his own feeling in this lyric, and this technique is FANTISTIC COOL!!!! :wink2:

I like a phrase inside this song”我难过,却不是因为没得奖而难过,我失落,是因为看到外婆失落而失落” I was very touching :cry: after reading this sentence, from this way we can see how 孝顺 he is. “表哥说不要觉得可惜,这只是一场游戏,只要外婆觉得好听,那才是一种鼓励,外婆露出了笑容说她以我为荣, 浅浅的笑容,就让我感到比得奖它还要光荣” and this few sentences, CAN YOU FEEL WHAT HE WANT TO TELL US?? This sentences was very POWERFUL, a sentence that he show us how he love his grandma. He is really very孝顺. :cry:

And actually this song he bring message about that he lost already three times inside the 金曲 awards, but he wrote it in a gentle way like this “表哥他的用心,好像随他们高兴就可以彻底的否定,否定我的作品,决定在于心情,想坚持风格他们就觉得很欢 乐,没惊喜没有改变,我已经听了三年,我告诉外婆,我没输,不需要改变”. (And I feel that this is why we all like Jay Chou right?? Because of his this unique style, does anybody here wish that someday Jay Chou will sing songs like ~~Old McDonald has a farm, eya~~eya~~yo~~??) :bleh:

Ok, here I also have few words for those anti-Jay Chou, I use to hear a lots of people who is anti-Jay Chou said he makes no changes every album, he is same old style. Here I would like to use a sentence of his lyric “没惊喜没有改变,我已经听了三年,我告诉外婆,我没输,不需要改变”. I already heard what these anti said for 3 years, so if u don like Jay Chou please stay away, and stop criticize his style, because I feel that those fans out there that support him until nowadays must have love his style, those who don like already give up after his second album, so if u don like PLEASE SHUT UP AND BUZZ OFF!!!!!!! :rasp:

Finally, I would like to said that after this album I strongly feel that the power of Chinese words. The lyrics inside this album really give me an impression that Chinese words is very unique and beautiful, it can describe things very detailed and fantastic. :happy: :wink2:

miki-chan
08-11-2004, 12:34 AM
wow, everyone is reserved about this album...personally, i love it to bits! i think i'ts very cool the way he does different voices for almost every song, and the raps in this album are just so super diao! i agree with yakedo about how the lyrics for wai po are very outstanding. it's such a relevant song for me since i live with my grandparents and i see how they want the company of their kids so much. it's such an understanding, touching song.

on a different note, i hate the qi li xiang mv sosossosososososososo much!!!!!! first of all, jay looks so skinny, but that okay, no matter how jay look, i'll still think he's hot, but the girl, amn! i hate that girl so much! her smile is so fake! and she's like never looking at jay either, they're just both off somewhere doing their own thing! i hate that girl, crappy actor. grrrrrr, i was so disappointed. like a blood stain on fresh virgin snow, mars the whole album, in my opinion. grrrrr.

yw37
08-11-2004, 06:00 PM
okok i sorta forgot....and i heard it sumwhere or read it somewhere is the transaltion of 'qi li xiang' also 7 miles something as well as ornage jasmine? or am i totally wrong there? cos like...i was wondering...and i coudlnt find it on the search or maybe i didnt look hard enough..

if you read through this whole thread very carefully you would find out the answer. (god i sound so stuck up.)
hahaha...
YEAH 七里香 literally means 7-mile fragrance, but it also means Orange Jasmine.

http://www.jay-chou.net/forums/showthread.php?p=249164#post249164

amdawn
08-12-2004, 05:04 AM
the album is warm water over a stove. i like orange jasmine, checkmate, garden festival and injury of cease-fire. i haven't fallen in love with the other stuff. sometimes, it probably needs some more soaking into the folds of his music. i feel especially terrible since i haven't expressed 'ooh, aah' and enthusiatic ssentiments yet about 'excuse' and 'grandma'. read thru the 'grandma' lyrics and it is pretty touching. okay back to hitting the play button.
as for the mv, the 'orange jasmine' mv is quite beautiful minus the girl. actually she feels so much older than him and feels out of place. but the blurry, soft tones make it very relaxing. seeing jay act so passionate as he sings in some the scene makes it quite wonderful.

Annessa
08-13-2004, 01:59 AM
Hmm... I've only read about halfway through this thread, but would like add my own input instead... don't have as much free time to read through everything (though, i'd really like to!).

i agree w/ a lot of what others have said. when i first listened to the album straight through in its entirety, it seemed as though the same style/sounds were embedded... and i was actually expecting a bit more of a change. though this is not my favorite album of his overall, the more i listen to it, the more it grows on me. my fave tracks are 2,3,6, and 9.

ker_ai_teresa
08-13-2004, 02:12 PM
just my humble views on the tracks and the album. i'm not going to review every song tho, only those i have something to say about. :happy:

track 1 (my territory) - a great start to the album (this is my territory, listen to me). the intro was innovative. it sounded like i was about to watch a Disney animation. then came the sounds a helicopter (jay must love them! :rolleyes: ) i love the music, the melody, the rapping....the chorus makes me wanna nod my head to the beat. but i don't understand a single word of what he is singing. such a trademark of jay's. i'll have to visit the translations forum later.

track 2 (qi li xiang) - the start of the song makes me think of Dong Feng Puo immediately, due to the use of oriental instruments. i don't know whether this is a good thing or not. but the rest of the song sounds totally different from DFP. :sweat: a perfect song for the radio, so it's not surprising that i love it too.

track 3 (excuse) - i don't recall jay having done something so 'pop'-like in the past. but this is just one of the couple of pop-ballads in the album, the other being ge qian. it was initially Jay's R'n'B work that helped me to escape from the predictability of canto pop music, so hearing it here was a little :oops: just replace the mando with canto lyrics, give it to Andy Hui and it'll just become another canto pop song. don't misunderstand, the melody is attractive, the lyrics are beautiful, and it's a song i can listen to over and over again, but i just have this thing with pop-ballads.

track 4 (grandma) - another song with a distinctly oriental feel to it. nothing much to say about this track, except that there's a sense of familiarity in that it features the voice of a girl, which was done previously in Nuo fu.

track 6 (ge qian) - a pop ballad. i love the way jay conveys the emotions of this song! the plea in his voice exemplifying the lyrics. a very short song, lyrics wise, but jay more than makes up for this by varying the way he sings it from beginning to end.

track 7 (luan wu chun qiu) - this song opens with sound effects, those of horses' hoofs. an interesting track, with a lot of variance. distinct rapping parts, but we also hear some softer, gentler parts blended in to give a totally different, not-so-in-you-face feel to the song, and not to mention the opera like voice towards the end. then there's the use of the pi pa, more sword fighting sound effects, and then an ending that sounds a little rock. lots of surprises, and i like!

track 9 (yuan you hui) - a beautiful song that i can't help loving. it's so trademark Jay.

track 10 (zhi zhan zhi shang) - a great closing to the album. this is definitely something fresh. the constant piano piece in the background, sort of serves to make the song gentler and calm despite the rapping. they're like two opposites. i just love the way the piano was used throughout the track.

all in all, i liked the album. i haven't read what the "critics" have said about it, and well, i really don't care. i think jay has done well. the pop ballads are different (despite the "thing" i have about them). the album starts and ends on a strong note. it's not always that some of the best songs are placed near the end, but jay has done so particularly in this album, and by doing that, it makes me want to press the play button again and again.

i must say tho, that there's a feeling that he has overused the oriental instruments. when i think pi pa, er hu, chinese flute, etc, i use to think Dong Feng Puo, but now that he's used them in 3 or 4 tracks here, it has sort of taken away something from DFP.

my personal rating out of 10: 8.5

Fontane1212
08-13-2004, 03:52 PM
Hi all,
I didn't bother to read through all the replies to this topic (just the ones on the first pg), so what I say here may be a repeat of someone else's comment.
I bought his new album last week...dunno y, but i thought the music in this new album sounded like a lot like his last album. I felt as thought he was sort of trying to lose his RnB style and moving towards rockish songs. I have to admit though, I am disappointed with this album, I thought that most of the songs were kinda similar to each other. I really miss his earlier works in Fantasy and the first album (esp. the songs like 'Cute Woman' and Tornado). Before I purchased this new album, I was hoping that the essense of some of his earlier works would reappear in this album, but that didn't happen. I'm worried that he's lost passion in his music. I mean, I hope not..but sometimes I have to wonder if he's becoming more focused on the money rather than the quality of his music (okay, i hope other fans won't bite my head off after saying this).
On the more positive note however, I actually thought 'Grandma' was quite good- the music was alright but it was really the lyrics that caught my attention. I liked the part where he talked about his feelings about his experience in the award ceremony (although I'm not sure which ceremony he was referring to) - i felt as thought he was trying to give us an insight /glimpse into his personal life. I also like track 6, I felt that he really was trying to express his singing talents in this song. Track 9 was pretty good too - easy on the ears....
Quick question though, the mv for track 10 - was that filmed in Russia? (I haven't visited this website for a while so I'm not up to date with his news).

JaeTerius
08-14-2004, 05:17 PM
Hi Fontane,

it seems to me like you're more of an r&b, pop fan, hence you like his earlier works. Admittingly, Jay's music progression has directed itself in a different path, a more edgier sound. That's probably why you don't really don't like his new album.

To be honest, Jay caught my attention with his more harder, raw music. I especially enjoy his rock ballads, and love Ye Hui Mei the most (just got Qi Li Xiang, allowing it to grow on me).

I think the general consensus is fans of his earlier works don't appreciate his later ones, which is understandable. I guess what I'm trying to say is even though it seems Jay is losing some old fans due to his shift in music, he's also gaining new ones.

jay_rox_the_world!!!
08-14-2004, 05:28 PM
Oh Please... usually jay chou audio is better than his video tats my opinions... but anyways, its true tat it fits the season... so pls dun judge a book just by its cover... lol...

the one
08-14-2004, 09:40 PM
Dianne's Personal Review of Jay's Qi Li Xiang, Volume 5

Track 01 : "My Turf"
Rating: 9/10
Although a musical sort of introduction, I find the short raps in this song very captivating.. Unlike his other raps, this one has more emphasis in them.

Track 02 : "Orange Jasmine"
Rating: 7/10
Played plenty a times on the radio, I grew tired of listening to the song over and over. The song grows on you. It's like a mixture of Dong Feng Puo's style and Qing Tian.

Track 03 : "Excuse"
Rating: 8/10
Beautifulness. A very, very simply beautiful ballad song if you ask me. Has some resemblance with An Jing that just adds more feeling to it.

Track 04 : "Grandma"
Rating: 7/10
Yet another hip-hop track with Jay's infamous kid sidekick. Not as hip as Nuo Fu, but it still gets my average vote.

Track 05 : "General"
Rating: 7/10
Well, it's that song I heard off his recent Panasonic commercial with NanQuan Mama. Mmm...The violin background music gives it some attitude. Violins are usually more on classical music but in this case, Jay has incorporated it into pop music which is amazing.

Track 06 : "Standing"
Rating: 7/10
Here comes another slow ballad! but slower, and sadder.

Track 07 : "Chaotic Dance Spring Autumn"
Rating: 8/10
I'm not exactly sure why they combined Spring and Autumn for the title of this song, which are 2 completely different seasons. But anyway, it's another classy Chinese oriental song of his, without kung fu sounds, of course.

Track 08 : "Duel of the Trapped Beast"
Rating: 10/10
My favorite track. ever. From ALL of his albums. Why? It's that alternative rockish theme to it that attracts me most. And I will adore anything that is Alternative in genre. I love all Alternative bands like Matchbox Twenty, John Mayer, Jason Mraz, Sixpence None the Richer, and many more...

Track 09 : "Garden Tour Festival"
Rating: 8/10
A perfect song for people who are always in a happy/cheerful mood. Actually, you know...it kind of matches with one of Lene Marlin's piano acoustic songs, since they both have similar tunes. I can really tell you specifically which part, but it's just in the song. You'll have to figure it out yourself.

Track 10: "Wounds of War"
Rating: 7/10
A soft hip-hop song. It has a repetitive verse and bridge, but I still like it nonetheless.

jaychouismyfren
08-27-2004, 10:46 AM
Qi Li Xiang(which wad i tink) far exceeds the standard of qing tian. It not be as fantastic as you heard it the first time but as you go on, you will realise Qi Li Xiang has its own powers to attract people to listen to it.

Galzs_revolution
08-28-2004, 01:37 PM
when i first dl my territory and qi li xiang.. (when Jay's album is not out yet) i was sooo soo excited.. and well coz really both of the songs attracted me... and i was putting really high expectation on Jay.. which actually disappointed me when i bought the album.. I slept when first hearing it.. don't know if i was tried or well bored? lolz.. then i thought that ye hui mei is better than this one.. But.. there's but.. the more u listen to it.. the more u will get hooked.. trust me..

neena
08-28-2004, 02:52 PM
i really like this album of his...he did an awesome job. I love the song Qi Li Xiang...i also saw the mv which was very nice!!! hehehe :-) Now, i can't wait until he releases a new album! He's so creative! :D :D

pyre
09-10-2004, 12:47 PM
yay! finally found a thread to make a comment on his cd!!

my best bud just got it for me for my bday!!! love him sooooo much! now i can listen to jay day and night!!! hahah

its the best album!


i have 2 cds in it and on the firstdisk, it has the song Broken string on it...why?

powerlessangel
09-11-2004, 12:11 PM
if truth be told,i thought that this album was rather disappointing.......it lacks variety....and some of the songs sounded rather bland.....

sweep
09-11-2004, 05:26 PM
I like this album. I was praying that all the songs were good because this album was the first one that I've purchased. I was like, OH! But in a good way.
The first one that attracted me was Qi li xiang. The first song to come out. I thought ok! One good song down... Yay!

When I heard the rest of the album, the ones that caught my attention was the fast songs plus Garden Festival. Then unto the rest of the slow songs. After listening to it a couple of times, I liked it a lot! I keep repeating it in my CD player. The slow songs were really heart-catching. The way he songs it, he sounds like he years for something. (hehe - is that too much) But, its true. Reading the lyrics makes you think that it is really meaningful. Very sweet. :love:

This is the next good album that I like after Ye Hui mei. I agree that some of the songs sounds like some of his previous album but the result sounds good to me. Very innovative. His MVs are better, his acting is better and his hair is definitely better. The MVs were good starting from Ye Hui Mei. Every MV now makes you want to look forward to seeing it. Well, In short, this album is really good. :happy:

wkhwa
09-11-2004, 06:05 PM
if truth be told,i thought that this album was rather disappointing.......it lacks variety....and some of the songs sounded rather bland.....

Mmm. I am stucked in the middle though. Although I cannot deny that some songs really lack the "diaoness" of Jay's previous albums but some of his songs are simply marvelous. QLX, Jie kou are my two favourites and the least favourite I would say is "Wo de di pan".

Muzi
09-19-2004, 08:19 AM
I felt a little bored initially cuz his songs are still the same style. But after listening to them for a few times, it gets better I guess. I like the wo de di pan and jiang jun, which are more unique. Then the typical-Jay-love-songs like Jie kou are also quite touching. Anyway his albums will still sell like crazy regardless whether he changes his style of singing or not. Cuz his name is already like a branded good.

supawan
09-19-2004, 08:27 AM
i love all the songs on this album... except for track 8 (desperate fight) ... uhhh its just not jay... it sounds like one of david tao's song, i think its called black tangerine... but overall i am satisfied with the album
I give this album a 9/10 because I like every song whereas on previous albums, there were always songs I never got used to.

pyre
09-22-2004, 04:17 AM
I have only listened to the first 3 songs (did anyone else get 2 cds? I did...the second cd was his YHM album + other albums). The first song sounds like a theme tune out of a cartoon at the beginning...His songs are all good. It is such a nice day outside, I am going to go listen to the rest of his sonfs in the sun (I have the day off school)!

rosiean86
09-22-2004, 05:20 AM
To be honest, I was kind of disappointed with this album. The only songs that really stood out to me were 'Wo de di pan', 'Qi Li Xiang' and 'Garden Festival'. There were a couple of others that I liked or thought were unique (like Jiang Jun) but overall, I don't think it was as good as Ye Hui Mei. The ballads especially disappointed me, because I thought they were too slow and boring. But the thing is that I think that it takes some time for me to get used to each new Jay album, so maybe I just need to listen to it some more and then I'll love it :D

puukiness
09-22-2004, 05:27 AM
lol, you guys all looking at detials and every little bit, i'm don't know anything about singing so i thought it was a good album, >< i'm enjoying it alot!

oh and, his slow songs are dai best!! but now his fast songs are also getting good! (or maybe its just me?)

Viv
09-22-2004, 05:52 AM
Personally, I like this album better than Ye Hui Mei. This album fits my style more and there's not a song I skip over. Unlike Ye Hui Mei, I always used to skip over Dong Feng Puo. My opinions are quite opposite or Rosieans. I really liked the ballads in this album and didn't find them boring at all. And I really like the fast beat songs as well.

phoebe
09-22-2004, 05:22 PM
hi pyre . i think you are having a pirated version since all his albums only comes with a vcd of 2 mvs from the album . so if you have a cd that contains 7lx + yhm - definitely pirated .
i am still enjoying 7lx everyday - sounds better and better each and every song -esp my territory+ checkmate - so fun to listen .

littlefishie
09-23-2004, 01:47 AM
Hrm... I really like Qi Li Xiang. It has such a nice melody. Plus Jay said that he wanted this song to give people a nice calm feeling in the middle of a hot summer... =)

As for the other songs, I really love Jie Kou and Ge Qian. They're such nice ballads with great lyrics, and the MVs are soooo touching.

Oh yeah, Wai Po is sweet too. I love how Jay keeps writing about or dedicating things to his family...

friends_pt
09-23-2004, 02:39 PM
Well, i think tat this album , QiLiXiang is a wonderful album of Jay so far eversince the best selling one which is Fantasy.. nt saying his previous one are not good... but i think this still shows the usual Jay music style which he insist of not changing n the songs are of my meaningful... like WaiPo which has a meaning to it... yeah.. i think it is really a nice one...

azndragon1987
09-24-2004, 09:06 PM
I loved his latest album so much, went out to look for his other songs and see what he's done in the past. Qi Li Xiang and Jie Kou are my favourites.

Muzi
09-26-2004, 03:05 PM
After many days of listening to 7LX, the slow songs just get better! :D but i still dun like Wai po v much... :? And I think the mvs of 7LX are great!! Just caught ge qian mv, Jay's acting has improved alot~ He's so diao! :D

Swen
09-26-2004, 06:49 PM
this album i like 'wai po' & 'yuan you hui' the most...alway will not get bored listen to them, other song like 'wo de di pan' which Jay sing in a different way is a gd try..although there is no BIG difference as compare to previous albums..they r still hits..tat is also what Jay want to achieve... maintain his own style

tc9.jay
09-27-2004, 04:11 PM
I realized that from 8d onwards, opinions towards Jay’s albums have become increasingly varied. There are so many people who feel that 7lx is better than yhm and yet there are just as many people who express their disappointment in 7lx too.

Personally, I really really dig this album. I agree with some of you out there that compared to yhm, this album has lesser songs which can be considered new and fresh (yfzm, dong feng po…), but I feel that there is nothing wrong with Jay wanting to maintain his style of music for now. For me, I like 7lx as a whole a lot more than yhm bcos unlike yhm, where I would skip selected tracks, there isn’t a single track that I would skip on 7lx. To me, I used to think that Jay would never be able to better my personal favorite of fantasy, where I really loved every single one of the songs there but he did.

Some of my favorite songs on 7lx includes, wo de di pan, 7lx, ge qian, wai po and zhi zhan zhi shan. Okay… that’s almost half the album, but 7lx is a really good album.

Seltsi
10-01-2004, 06:16 AM
Wow, these reviews are really interesting/enlightening, lol. I say this because I haven't actually boughten a copy of Jay's 5th album yet, so after reading all this I'm dying to hear his album. Ack, i think I'll return and give my input later when I've heard his songs. Very interesting points I've been hearing. =P

ankh
10-07-2004, 05:53 AM
This is a little late but I absolutely have to say something about Jay's 5th 'baby'.

Hmmm like some of you here, I was quite disappointed in 7LX.
I have no music background or whatsoever so I can't tell if he varied his chords etc.
This album didn't give me much feel like the previous YHM, I just couldn't find a theme to the album I could relate to.
Probably because YHM had too much impact when it was released and the hit single YFZM kinda shocked me.
Was surprised Jay chose 7LX as his hit single since this song is considered rather low-profile when compared to YFZM.

Maybe like some of you guys said, Jay wanted to keep things simple.
Being a Jay album, it's standard is always there but just that I didn't relate to this album as much as the previous one. It's good that he is varying his singing techniques and is it just me, but I feel Jay is making more effort to sing clearly. My mum could even make out some of his lyrics offhand.
It still ranks as my 3rd fave album out of all 5:
1) Fantasy
2) YHM
3) 7LX
4) Jay's album
5) 8D

And talking about the tracks...

My territory
The Disney animation starting is cute. And his Beijing accent is hilarious!
Especially love the bridge part where there's this interval with sounds that resembles that from a musical box. Unique sound that is hard to learn.

7LX
When I first heard the preview, honestly I was disappointed. But somehow the song grew on me the more times I listened to it (typical of Jay's songs) and there is actually many layers to this seemingly simple song. I love the wind sounds in the beginning, resembling music in the wind. Very therapeutic.

Excuse
I love piano songs! I couldn't differentiate it from Ge Qian at first but this song isn't as depressing. Jay's simple lyrics work his magic again. Definitely a hit KTV ballad.

Wai Po
I love this song! Amazing how he can make a tune sound so homey and personal. And his frankness in the lyrics makes me respect him more. The harmonising part in the chorus was my fave.

Checkmate
Jay always like to use Wang Jun Lang lyrics to compose a unique song. I like how he makes his voice sound masculine, very suitable for the song's theme. And once again a mult tiered song where you can hear 3 voices singing at the same time towards the end of the song.

Ge Qian
Reminds me of my ultimate fave An Jing, but just didn't touch me as much. Probably the lyrics were rather abstract. His high note surprised me and it wasn't a bad effort at all.

Luan Wu Chun Qiu
This song is so interesting. Combination of interesting music + interesting lyrics. Going back to the Warring Kingdom period using a time machine. Only Jay can pull off such a song. And that impromptu part with the takeaway is so cute! He's always doing things to surprise us. There was this Hahaha part that reminds me of the Indian Old Bird from his first album.

Kun Shou Zhi Dou
I prefer his choice of slow rock in the form of Ta De Jie Mao than this. And I absolutely agree, this song sounds a lot like David Tao's Black Tangerine. The lyrics are not bad but Jay should have used another style.

Yuan You Hui
I love this song too! It's got a very refreshing feel, just like what the lyrics is about, a high school love. Somehow this song reminds me of Duan Le De Xuan. And I love Jay's R&B... I hope he would have more R&B though I don't mind him trying out other genres.

Zhi Zhan Zhi Shang
Love this song too! Another piano song, I can't resist piano songs... This song can be a theme song because it exudes very rich emotions and atmosphere. The lyrics especially touched me, especially the analogy of the dandelions flying. And the piano asemble is very nice!

topghurl
10-07-2004, 09:59 AM
iv been listening 2 7LX for about a month now and i luv it but not as much as YHM
like sum of yall i was disappointed when i first listened to it, some of the songs werent so impressive
jay can be so unpredictable!

but sumhow i cant stop listening the album and im trying to appreciate every single song and line

xiao_dk
10-07-2004, 07:09 PM
oh my goodness!!...ankh...your review is amazing~....almost 80% similar to what i think!! haha....

jus that my preference of the albums are different from yours..for me...7LX ranks 2nd in my fave:
1) Fantasy
2) 7LX
3) 8 Du
4) YHM
5) Jay

to me..7LX is better then YHM in the sense that it's much "neater" and "organized" in the arragement of the track....and there are more nice ballads around for easy listening (Jie Kou,Ge Qian,Yuan You Hui).....

I just simply love the ballads in this album....i feel that it's almost the same standard or even better then the classic ones like Kai Bu Liao Kou...Hei Se You Mo.....An Jing etc....it just gives me a very special feeling and i don't know how to describe :happy:

the rest of the tracks are great too!.. espacially Zhi Zhan Zhi Shang(love everything in this song)...Wai Po(the lyrics and rap)...Wo De Di Pan(the cuteness) and Luan Wu Chun Qiu(the cuteness and lyrics)....7LX (i dunno what is it that i like abt this song....i jus like it as it jus seems to grow on me...I was disppointed the first time i heard this song too~ =p )

soo..... the bottomline~~..this album is great.. ...and yea...Jay maintained the standard...or to me.....he even improved!!.....so...one last word.........DIAO!~ :excited:

Eternalz
10-07-2004, 08:19 PM
I realized that from 8d onwards, opinions towards Jay’s albums have become increasingly varied. There are so many people who feel that 7lx is better than yhm and yet there are just as many people who express their disappointment in 7lx too.

Personally, I really really dig this album. I agree with some of you out there that compared to yhm, this album has lesser songs which can be considered new and fresh (yfzm, dong feng po…), but I feel that there is nothing wrong with Jay wanting to maintain his style of music for now. For me, I like 7lx as a whole a lot more than yhm bcos unlike yhm, where I would skip selected tracks, there isn’t a single track that I would skip on 7lx. To me, I used to think that Jay would never be able to better my personal favorite of fantasy, where I really loved every single one of the songs there but he did.

Some of my favorite songs on 7lx includes, wo de di pan, 7lx, ge qian, wai po and zhi zhan zhi shan. Okay… that’s almost half the album, but 7lx is a really good album.

Tsk, first of all, you shouldn't be skipping any songs on any given CD by Jay :shifty: . Also, you said that the bunch of people who said 7lx isn't that good, is because they are old school (or try to be) and say that nothing will be Fantasy (which is damn good, yes). Plus you said that Jay sticks with his style of music, working around this basis to make other songs with the same foundation. So whenever I listen to a new Jay work, rather than listen to a new style, I look towards the meaning the song brings, and how well the music/rhythm captivate this feeling. I know it sounds all subjective and iffy, but its the best way.

Lots of people are swayed by Ge Qian now that they've seen the MV, i think. The only song I don't really like Kun Shou Zi Dou, but there are some rock elements in it, which is new. But just because its new doesn't mean it fits his style or sounds THAT great.

ismellcarrots
10-09-2004, 05:29 PM
I would have to say Qi Li Xiang is my absolute favourite album=)! my mum likes it a lot too [and she doesn't approve of me listening to his music].
1) Qi Li Xiang
2) 8 Dimensions
3) Ye Hui Mei
4) Fantasy
5) Jay
i think some of the songs in qlx are really meaningful [eg. like Wai Po and Zhi Zhan Zhi Shang] I don't know maybe i have weird taste but i'm not crazy over Fantasy[but it still rocks! like all of his albums] argh i dunno but i positively loveee qlx! :)

jay_gal
10-11-2004, 08:09 AM
U know wat I think? I think da first time u hear a new Jay song, u wouldn't immediately fall for it. Well, dat's how is it for me. When I heard Qi Li Xiang, I like it but I didn't love it yet. Maybe coz I expected it to be a fast song like Yi Fu Zhi Ming. Den i bought the album, the first time i listened to it, I thought it was okay but when I played it few more times and started to recognize the songs and the tune, I started to love the songs. I guess u muz get to know the song b4 u judge it so quickly.

xiezhi_renfu
10-12-2004, 12:15 PM
Well... i think otherwise. Personally i think 7LX is the best song i've ever heard from jay till now. If you listen to 7LX closely you can find some new elements added into it.. especially the chorus. Not to forget the lyrics.. they're reallie meaningful and well written and i feel that after listening to the song with the lyrics in your hands, there's sort of a soothing feeling within you.

I know some fans claimed that his current album wasn't as good as expected, maybe it's because they're over excited when listening to the album fer the first time and yeah.. they missed out a couple of changes jay did fer this album.. like fer his 10th track, i think he did a breakthrough for both the composition of the song as well as the MV. Notice that in his MV, he put on make up? Not just some plain and ordinary make up but some kinda Japan-ish makeup on the eyes.. i think he looked cool and his dressing in the MV reallie suits the song

if you reallie wanna try watching one of his MVs, i myself would highly recommand ge qian. it's sort of like a short story of one phase of his life when he met this gurl that he liked and in it, he played 3 different roles -- cleaner in the hospital, gang member and someone in a working class. Touching i would say the entire MV

phoebe
10-13-2004, 11:12 AM
i love 7lx but that's beside the point since i am a jay fan but i introduced it to a non-jay fan and she like sit ! i was hesistant . trying to intro her to fantasy or maybe yhm to get the jay impact but luckily i decided on 7lx and it's a wise choice as now jay has a new fan through 7lx .

Eternalz
10-13-2004, 10:48 PM
Well... i think otherwise. Personally i think 7LX is the best song i've ever heard from jay till now. If you listen to 7LX closely you can find some new elements added into it.. especially the chorus. Not to forget the lyrics.. they're reallie meaningful and well written and i feel that after listening to the song with the lyrics in your hands, there's sort of a soothing feeling within you.
V

Well Jay does apply new sounds into his compositions, all the while keeping the main composure of the song format. Also in QLX the music is more subtle than most other songs, so it emphasizes the great lyric work done by Vincent Fang (love the metaphors). Qi Li Xiang really does a good job in painting a serene mind landscape.

Secretcouncellor
10-14-2004, 03:08 AM
I think Jay had put in his effort..perhaps he wanted to create the same style and add some style in the song...I think Jay want to compose a song which is simple, catchy and nice..at least he did not disppoint us...when i first heard it..i was so shocked..it was so nice....guess wat? it was this album which made me lyk jay chou...heheex...No matter wat i will always support Jay..Jay RULEZ!

quadshock
10-18-2004, 02:18 AM
i'm not really a big fan of any particular artist (I'd say i'm not very biased when it comes to music), but I do admire Jay for his consistency in quality. Usually, "produced by Jay" means it'll be at least above average, though it may also mean the song will be quite similar to his other songs.

Qi Li Xiang was a highly anticipated album: No one knew if was going to experiment with anything, or if he was gonna continue to experiment with music the way he did with Ye Hui Mei. When the first plug was released, everyone agreed that it was "typical Jay"...but is that a bad thing? The standards Jay has set for himself are so high that perhaps they are impossible to top. This means...perhaps you cannot do Jay's type of music without "sounding the same"...and since Jay is Jay, he's just doing what he feels he should do.

This album is more experimental than pop, though not nearly as innovative as Yeh Hui Mei. Yet, when he tried to be creative iwth YHM, there were many negative reactions. Why do people complain about the songs sounding the same, and whine when he tries a new style? In 7LX Jay balanced it a bit; any listener would find the songs listenable, while those who looked for innovation would still find some.

I find track 10, the one with a piano intro and very cool transitions, to be one of the best songs I've ever heard. It's a mature song with a melody and raps that flow. They blend into the background music perfectly, and the lyrics are just about as deep as you can get. At the point where Jay starts to rap, you hear that thing in the background (can't describe it)...how often do you hear that in other songs? The best part is it makes the song so much more ocmplete, and that is what makesa good song.

I won't review the entire cd, but the only track i found to be overly poppy was track05, where the intro resembled Jolin's "Prague Square" much too closely. The two songs that did not stand out to me much were the two slower songs; they did not get me hooked like An Jing did. The fast songs here are really an accomplishment...they're creative, complicated in arrangements, and actually flow...something not many have accomplished in the Chinese/Taiwanese music industries. The lyrics are still quite an accomplishment; they can be poems if someone read them out loud rather than sing.

If you compare the production quality of Qi Li Xiang you can also find that it is superior to nearly every Jay album, except maybe for 8 Dimensions. Maybe this is because he is with Sony and getting more expensive equipment (not sure about that), but everything is much more polished than, say, the first album or Yeh Hui Mei. The arrangements are more complex, even if they may seem similar to you, and the mixing of all the sounds just blends together in a much more impressive way. I'm glad he did less R/B because that genre has perhaps the most simple and plain arrangements out of all the genres. Rock is most complex, especially the drum parts. I don't want Jay to pursue a fully rock career, however, since i don't think he can compare with all the rock bands in China, but his blend of his style with a slight rock feel in track 08 was pretty unique.

His singing has definitely improved; his breathing is not as noticeable as the previous albums. The rapping wasn't as memorable as some of his older songs, like "ba, wo hui lai le" but i think the more innovative beats made up for it. overall i'd give this album a 8/10. I do listen to a lot of other music so i do believe i have pretty high standards...not a bad album at all. If you did not anticipate it so much you wouldn't have been disappointed...sometimes that can be your own fault

jaychou_21
04-11-2005, 02:05 PM
Jay Chou's fifth album,"Qi Li Xiang," is an astonishing piece of art.
It is truly an amazing musical masterpiece to behold.
Once I'd purchase a copy of the album,I never regretted buying it.
It's a priceless possession and it's worth my every single penny.
The anthology of beautifully-written songs and melodiously crafted tracks
will surely struck your heart.The catchy beat,the soulful rhythym,and the
heartfelt lyrics certainly are the most powerful weapons of this album.
And not to mention Jay Chou's equally magnificent versatile vocals.
To make long things short,"Qi Li Xiang" is an awesome collection of great songs
penned by a very talented musical genius.
Every song in this album is an ear candy and sounds very pleasant to the auditory senses,
particularly "Qi Li Xiang," "Jie Kou," and "Ge Qian"
"Common Jasmine Orange" will embark you on a fantastic journey through music.
This fantastic musical obra maestra is one album you shouldn't miss!
It's the most fascinating Jay album I've ever listened to!
Anyway,here's how I rank Jay's albums:
1.Qi Li Xiang
2.Ye Hui Mei
3.8 Bimensions
4.Fantasy
5.Jay
Every release is an improvement compared to the previous album.
I'm looking forward to his next album...
I'm pretty sure that it'll be more wonderful and fantastic!

thupham
04-12-2005, 12:30 AM
i got to c a video clip of it, and thnz 4 sharing ur comments and posting the reviews of it
on most part, i agree w/ ur comments w/ the quality not being so good cuz seems like not a lot of effort put into it

petricia
04-12-2005, 01:28 AM
hmmm... Weird to finally review this album.... after all, it is more than 6 months since the release... :-)

anyway, i would say this album is one that i just like to take out and listen even when i am doing my work... it is just so soothing, in a sense...

I would say that Jay is a good start, Fantasy is the cornerstone of his 'Jay style empire', 8D is the transition point, YHM is an album of 'royalty' (dun ask me why but it just sounds.... very royalty to me...) and QLX is a work of a man... compared to the first 2 albums, which to me sounds more boyish...

NO.... i didn't fall in love with it immediately, like i did for YHM. The gusty YFZM is always the one which swept me off... under comparison, QLX is just ... a normal ballad, like many have said just another 'Qing Tian' alike song...

However, as i listen to the whole album more, i just love it more... maybe it is becoz of how the whole album goes... i dunno but like i said before, it is a mature work, a work of a man... Instead of the 'pom' that was very evident in YHM, QLX is a very soothing job...

Track 1(Wo De Di Pan): A cheeky song... it is a very challenging one in Karaoke too... But i just love the feeling and the supposed-to-be Beijing accent... It is like telling the whole world, [I]in my territory, listen to me... I guess there is a reason for being the 1st song in the album... :shifty:

Track 2(Qi Li Xiang): On the first hear, it did not impress me... seemed to be just another ballad for the market... yet, upon more listening, this becomes the song that i like most... the breeze at the beginning and the end of the song just made it feel so relax and you are just in a world of your own... it just gets to your head after a while...

Track 3(Jie Kou): Another Jay-style ballad, which is a must in KTV sessions... haha... i like the little 'rock' feeling in it... the drums and all...

Track 4(Wai Po): I was immediately touched by the song... :cry: No, not the revenge and his disappointment but the situation that he was trying to tell... how the old people are being nelgected... though it is nice to feel that ' :shifty: you must get your revenge, dun you..' feeling...

Track 5(Jiang Jun): Just love this song... a typical Jay style rap but it is quite hard to learn... but i just love the lyrics... and the MV.. the old people are just so cute :bleh:

Track 6(Ge Qian): hmmm... the song that leaves the greatest "impression" on the first hear. Well... the high pitch part nearly deafened me since i was on a headphone and full blast, what i always do when i first listen to Jay's album... the feelings are there, i can feel the regret and like everyone, i just love the MV. Yah it is a little soapy and drama but i just love it... :tongue:

Track 7(Ruan Wu Chu Qiu): Ah... a track that i absolutely love! very cheeky and very history... it also about the period that i love best... not to mention that chicken chop rice behind... haha...

Track 8(Kun Shou Zhi Dou): haha... i like the song, dunno why but i just like it... it is rather un-Jay and though i dun think he pulled it off as a rock song, it is still very nice...

Track 9(Yuan You Hui): Seriously, i din think much of this song at first.... my feeling was 'just another ballad'... But it was only after i sat down and read the lyrics that i kinda understand the whole song and the feeling is jsut so sweet... feel like swaying with it even though i am not on the album now...

Track 10(Zhi Zhan Zhi Shang): A song that touched me so much that i wrote a fanfic around similar theme... yah...there is no need for war :cry: ... think of the innocent children who would suffer becoz of this...

So long... see you people... :wave:

will_zhng
04-14-2005, 05:22 AM
Honestly, Qi Li Xiang has got to be the worst Jay album ever released. It destroyed the way i thought about Jay as been very Diao. The songs in the albums make no difference to every other romance song released by mandarin singers, making it fairly boring and usual. The only reason I like Jays music is coz of the whole new atmosphere and new ideas he created wif songs like nunchukas and Dragon fist, this album let me down heaps.

Selina4eva
04-15-2005, 08:31 PM
most of the songs from are great.but i dun realli like Kun Shou Zhi Dou..find it..not so nice.guess my fave track for the time being is ge qian

tomcools
06-11-2005, 10:32 AM
hmmm this album was pretty good after u listen to it over and over again .. but then i found that some of the songs were similar to some of his old songs... i dunno maybe its just me... but then i like his old album better...

lwcq
06-16-2005, 08:32 AM
Well... i think otherwise. Personally i think 7LX is the best song i've ever heard from jay till now. If you listen to 7LX closely you can find some new elements added into it.. especially the chorus. Not to forget the lyrics.. they're reallie meaningful and well written and i feel that after listening to the song with the lyrics in your hands, there's sort of a soothing feeling within you.

I know some fans claimed that his current album wasn't as good as expected, maybe it's because they're over excited when listening to the album fer the first time and yeah.. they missed out a couple of changes jay did fer this album.. like fer his 10th track, i think he did a breakthrough for both the composition of the song as well as the MV. Notice that in his MV, he put on make up? Not just some plain and ordinary make up but some kinda Japan-ish makeup on the eyes.. i think he looked cool and his dressing in the MV reallie suits the song

if you reallie wanna try watching one of his MVs, i myself would highly recommand ge qian. it's sort of like a short story of one phase of his life when he met this gurl that he liked and in it, he played 3 different roles -- cleaner in the hospital, gang member and someone in a working class. Touching i would say the entire MV


Indeed. IMO QLX is THE best song lyrically out of all his. It tends to be overlooked because it is the 'title track'. I wasn't too impressed by QLX initially ( YYH and lwcq were my favourites) but after listening more carefully to QLX i then realized how brilliant the lyrics were. From the start to the end. Everything. Brilliant.

hil_sky
06-20-2005, 09:40 PM
In the Qi Li Xiang album, I don't think Qi Li Xiang is the best song. First, I got so addicted to it but then I got sick of it. Hehe... (I didn't listen to other songs yet) I thought he did a lousy job on this album but when I listen to the rest of them I think Checkmate, and My Territory are the best. =) Support Jay Forever!!

princessKitty
06-21-2005, 02:35 PM
Qi Li Xiang is a beautiful album with Styles that Jay always uses. His Rap has improved and really expresses himself fully in his songs.
In this album, he talks about his grandma which i feel is the strongest song. The lyrics are meaningful and i think jay relates to the lyrics.
Again, jay talks about war-casluties of stopping war- a brilliant song where jay looks through childrens eyes and sing from their point of view.
jay has really touched all four corners of the earth with his talented composing and writing. :-) :-)

On another side point, I still think Yip way Mei is the best album. HeeHee :brows:

JaYwAh
07-01-2005, 08:17 AM
when i first listened to this album..i have to say..i thought it sucked soooo bad...butt thats normal when i hear an album for the first time...took a couple of times before i finally clicked to it..its an awesome album..thanks to the videos..i love the songs even more..if it werent for the videos..it would have taken me slightly longer to enjoy the songs..now vice versa..if i listen to an album n like it rite away..i will no doubt hate it after a few times of listening to it..i get tired of it just like that...jay is no exception..his albums sounded weird at first..butt i totally love it now..sometimes u just gotta give songs a break so u can later listen to it again and enjoy it..

Xiuya
07-10-2005, 07:34 PM
Honestly, Qi Li Xiang has got to be the worst Jay album ever released. It destroyed the way i thought about Jay as been very Diao. The songs in the albums make no difference to every other romance song released by mandarin singers, making it fairly boring and usual.

Okay, I do think some songs in QLX are similar to Jay's past songs, especially in YHM. But the songs are very different from the other artists'. I've heard many Mandarin songs and sometimes reviewed it. Believe me, it's totally different. One artist always have his/her own style. In music, vocal, MVs, everything. Yeah, sometimes there are some artists who're copying the others. But Jay isn't like that. He's the one who has his own style. Really his own style, I mean. He composed his songs himself, things that only few arists can do it. It's very difficult to composed songs. Even many great composers such as Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, and so on tried so hard to composed their music, even for the first melodies. Of course their music is more "deep", but I found the same point here, since they are same, composers. It's so difficult to make something new/improve your music quickly. Many songs of the composers above are similar each other. But if we check it clearly, there are always some "changes" on each songs. This thing also happened to Jay. He has more "tension" in is life for being an artist. So, maybe it's more difficult for him to write the songs that totally different from the past. If you've heard his songs albums to albums, you will find "small" changes, not the big ones. So, if YHM and QLX are heard similar, I think it's not weird. I believe, if you hear his past albums, then you'll find many differences between them, because there are so many "small" changes, which are became "big" changes. Do you know what I mean? It's so difficult to say...

There WAS effort in it. Belive that.The songs really exceeded my expectations.

Yes... I'm 100% agree with you, Hyde!!! Maybe QLX isn't the best of Jay's album I've ever heard, but there WAS many effort in it. The facts? It became the best-selling album in many part of this world, and became the top ten for a long time in many song charts. I appreciate Jay for that. For his music. For his lyrics -thanks to all the lyricist-. For his MVs. And for his efforts. This is why I love Jay's songs so much.

And that was the the music critic, not the crazedfangirl talking.

I'm again agree with you, Hyde!!! Thanks a lot for your critics!

JayMatrix
08-14-2005, 06:30 AM
In my opinion, Qi Li Xiang is just behind Yeh Hui Mei and Fantasy.

Wo De Di Pan is a very unique song, with the Beijing slang in it. I find it extremely irritating at first though.

Qi Li Xiang is simple yet addictive.

Jie Kou is one of Jay's best self-written song.

Wai Po, as many had said, carries a very strong meaning.

Luan Wu Chun Qiu, a very weird and wacky song.

Yuan You Hui, one of the best songs in the album. It has got a catchy tune.

Zhi Zhang Zhi Shang has got one of the best intro by Jay, just behind Yi Fu Zhi Ming.

I feel Jiang Jun is a very very difficult song, and only Jay himself could have done it. It also has got a catchy tune and I like the lyrics in it.

And Kun Shou Zhi Dou is just like Nuo Fu. Jay tries to change his style, but failed.

All in all, this is a great album by anyone's standard. But I feel Jay could have done much more better.

Hopefully the Vol.6 album will be like Fantasy/Yeh Hui Mei.

Cai_Niao
08-14-2005, 09:18 AM
Qi LI Xiang is great but it wasn't as much of a huge BANG as was his self titled first album and Ye Hui Mei i think he's kind of starting to repeat himself... But i still would give it 9.5/10 though i have to say his older albums where better no offense Jay but i expected more. Its still good though

[u]izu^
08-20-2005, 09:31 AM
Seriously speaking I thought that this album is one of his best. I kept looping the album in my cd player for several days after purchasing it and still did not get bored, which was not the case for his previous few albums.