Personal discussion about Jay & sex in general *enter at your own risk*

[jay's_beibee]

jay prolly has a small friend given that he is azn...but obviously we're not his fans b/c we think he's the incredible hulk or sthg, or else we wouldn't like him b/c his genes work against him! yah, i know, i understand...just being curious and wondering. and btw, do we really honestly think he's a virgin? as much as i also wish he is, i highly doubt it...i mean he works in show biz and can like have any girl he wants and i'm sure jay has plenty of opportunities to um...satisfy his appetite, if you know what i mean!
and to mike, thx for posting the pix up! the wait for you to get your laptop and post the pix felt like eternity! so tell-tell, did he mention anything about girls? that's like one question we've all been asking that you haven't answered yet...

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Edit by jayx8318x: This post was original part of this thread here ->
http://www.jay-chou.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2032
But split due to the fact we were going off topic.

[Chun Li]

Haha, I doubt that Jay's a virgin by now. Wouldn't Xiao Chu and Hei Ren and Geng Hong tease him like crazy? I bet none of them are. =)

[satanrina]

Chun Li:
I normally will not worry about corrupting 13 year olds who go to church. But in this case, I'm kinda hoping that this particular 13 year old can *hint* *hint* mention this very nice, friendly, funny, intelligent, and gorgeous girl who goes by the nick of satanrina to Jay the next time they meet.

Mike:
I swear. I will make you go for leg extensions the next time you miss the chance. In fact, I'll stretch your legs the way they do with the finger-stretching device they use as torture device in ancient China.
Btw, please let me switch places with your sis the next time. I promise to will post *good* pics.

jay's_beibee:
I'm really curious about that too. But since he has to use "borrow your hand" as an excuse to hold a girl's hand. What pick-up line will he have to use to get into a girl's bed? "Borrow your bed"?/ "Borrow your"*beep*"?

[cloUdsuRFer]

p.s. Cloudsurfer... what were you referring to that entire time in your post, ey?

me.....obviously his biceps,....der.....what were YOU thinking of??? :twisted: :roll:

[hisashi]

cloud, chun li: :)
yeah..I dislike Geng HOng's biceps...too gross...-__-

[jay's_beibee]

who knows what Jay would say? he prolly wouldn't ask/say anything in these situations and just does. you know? anyway, isn't there a general belief that ppl who are perceived as being extremely shy/quiet and you expect the least to be engaging in any activity or have those kinda thoughts are usual the ppl who are most busy? phew! (taking a breath)...that was a long sentence!

cloud, chun li: :)
yeah..I dislike Geng HOng's biceps...too gross...-__-

Whaat?! i'm quite impressed w/Geng Hong's physique...never knew he was that muscular!! esp. since he's azn and it's extra hard for us to shape our bodies like that...

[choo min]

i still think jay is a virgin. i mean, he looks so innocent and acts in such a boyish way... but i haven't interacted with guys since primary school, so i wouldn't noe...

[cici bebe]

I dunno, a speaker came to my school to talk about abstinance and he really got the message across to me so when I look for a future husband (not saying Jay!) I'd like one that would be a virgin. I guess that's why I hope Jay is one.

Oh gosh that just sounds like I'm trying to say Jay is my future husband, which I am not!! >_< lol

[jay's_beibee]

cici...i completely agree with you and think that that's a very responsible and honourable decision to make but given jay's situation, i just doubt it's possible for him to abstain and live such an innocent life even if that is his intent. but i know what you mean...i wish he was/is that naive and pure too!

[satanrina]

Oh gosh that just sounds like I'm trying to say Jay is my future husband, which I am not!! >_< lol

cici:
Of course we all believe you do not mean that :roll:
Anyway, I also have all these abstinance talks when I was in convent school. I believe in abstinance, but I doubt that many ppl do nowadays. Somehow, for guys thats really rare, because they are really pressured to lose lay a chick or risk getting teased.

Karen:
There's a saying that goes "The bird that does not open it's beak often squeaks loudest", or at least I think it's how the proverb goes. Anyway, judging from the intensity of his songs, I'm sure he's a pretty passionate guy. Heh.

[Gwen910]

I'm definitely not under 14, but I'd like to think that Jay is still a virgin. Why? No real reason or proof to back it up...just faith that he's a clean and decent guy.

That. and didn't that time article mention that he spent a lot of time in studio? That's kinda gross and unsanitary to do it there...unless he just got a room or went to the girl's place...

Still...I still think he's "innocent." 0:)

[finenergy]

haha.....U all are soooooo funnnnnny...... :p
HmMmMm......I really really wld like to think of Jay as a virgin tooooo.....But uh-uh,I don't think he is one.:( No Guy is really really Clean and innocent no matter how quiet he is i think....haha
and yeah...he had 8 girlfriends!!!(i am proud to say i was one......heh...juz kidding :crazy: ....let me dream on :roll: )
shows he is such a passonate guy!!!!
HmMm...i wld like to know did he ditch the girls or they ditch him???and 4 what reason?????
:)anyone knows? :twisted:

[vivien17]

I REALLY doubt that jay's still a virgin, i mean, he's already 24 and have had 8 girlfrens.. And I don't want him to be one either. I know he's like perfect in some people's eyes here, but u gotta admit men have needs. I don't think he would use his fame to pick up some random girl, but I think he prolly did it with one of the 8 lucky girls.. And those girls don't want to make it public for their own sakes. I mean taiwan is an asian society after all, i don't think they will wanna go public with the fact they slept with this guy, esp if they have a boyfren right now... why jeopardize your current relationship with a bit of fame or notoriety? If i were her, ill just keep quiet. That said, i think we can agree that poor jay hasn't been getting much action lately...

[Sparkling_Jade]

yeah, i agree with you vivien17... guys definitely have needs, (if they dont do it , their balls will explode! <- heard that from the sex and the city, so it must be true LOL :p )
i think all jay´s ex-girlfriends must be pretty decent ( i doubt that jay would go out with someone slutty...) so they probably dont want to make their sex-life public..

[ashley]

er hem!..... *uncomfortably clearing throat*

.....*puts head on chopping board*

i may be unpopular after this but i say giv the guy a break and stop discussin this VERY personal matter about his sex life, huh people? we're loyal jay fans , aren't we? we lurve him, don't we? do we want to act like those vultures a.k.a journalists and start spreading rumors abt his virginity?

c'mon, stop it already....

....*looking around to see if anyone's charging over with a bayonet*...

[Sparkling_Jade]

okie, okie... but u´ve gotta admit that it´s kinda interesting :p
i mean, aren´t u just a lil´bit curious?

i dont think we´re influential (<-spelling???) enough to start spreading rumours (no offence guys) we´re just trying to bring some color into our otherwise oh-so-dull lives :) nah, only joking!

[en_en]

Hmmm...I doubt he is...but if you think about it, I read somewhere that Landy disaproves of sex before marriage, so he couldn't have done it with Landy. 8 girlfriends?? Who's the other 7??

Anyway, I don't think he is, but then again, I don't see time for him to do erm, 'it'.

[hisashi]

as i said b4 these are his personal matters so no pt discussing it but only for the fun of it! ^^;;

i think i heard someone asking him wat will he do if he feels the "urge" i think he said smth like "playing basketball or piano and some other things he wld do.." ^^;;

he's still a honest guy..:love:

[Annessa]

This thread just gets funnier and funnier.
Like I said before, for some reason I would feel sad for Jay if he was still a virgin. But then when would have he lost it? Yeah he's had 8 gfs before he got famous, but he's such a shy guy even with just asking them out. How would he ..uh..make his moves in *that* situation. Then after he was famous, if he slept with some unknown girl, I would think there would be rumors by now. And definitely if it was someone famous.


Why would you feel sad for him if he is a virgin? I totally respect that, especially when it comes to guys his age. Out of all my male friends, 3 that I know of are virgins and still waiting until marriage...and the oldest is 26 (not sure if I believe him, haha).

The question of whether he is or not isn't important to me. I like Jay for his music and talent...and sure, I think he's cute, but I don't really fantasize about him or anything.

8 gf's? Wow...I didn't think he'd have that many if he's known to be shy. I don't even know that many ppl who've been in 8 previous relationships...lol.

[ShunJing]

This is quite sad. After knowing Mike a lot of us are curious so know such secretive facts about Jay. Do you really wanna know? I mean I just think that he'd be so harassed and hurt if Mike printed this whole conversation out and gave it to him. He'd be like 'Wtf? Why do they wanna know about my ding ding and see if I'm a virgin or not?' Haha. I mean of course we are all curious, but still. I dunno. You guys decide.

[satanrina]

This is quite sad. After knowing Mike a lot of us are curious so know such secretive facts about Jay. Do you really wanna know? I mean I just think that he'd be so harassed and hurt if Mike printed this whole conversation out and gave it to him. He'd be like 'Wtf? Why do they wanna know about my ding ding and see if I'm a virgin or not?' Haha. I mean of course we are all curious, but still. I dunno. You guys decide.

Okie, as I'm one of those responsible, I have just this to say:

People are inquistive by nature. Although I agree that it's rather rude that we are probing into these rather private areas about his life, I do not regret that the thread has gone in this direction. At the very least, it has gotten ppl to speak out and ignite some interest in the forum.
For those who disagree with our paparazzo-like behaviour, or worried that Jay will be harassed by these msgs, do keep in mind that Jay is a celebrity. And as a celebrity, loss of privacy is part of the package that comes with fame. If he hasn't, he should get used to this aspect of life.
If no one pays any interest in his life as all, public or private, he wouldn't be as famous as he is today.
Many times I have heard ppl complain about the tabloids digging up dirt about their idols. These are the same ppl who grumble that their papers do not bother to report their idol's latest activity.
The same goes for celebrities that protest against the tabloids. You can bet that they probably attended those abovementioned protests to get their pictures in said tabloids.

That said, if there's anyone harassed by this, it would be Mike. He has to put up with zillions of our questions and yet he's been kind enuff to answer each and every one of them and also post those rare pics of Jay up for us. So I say we owe him a big thank you.

Also, I really do not care if he has a big ding ding because I'm not going to sleep with him anyway. Same goes for whether he is a virgin or not. I'll be more proud of him if he ever comes clean.

[jayx8318x]

Well those of you who are offended by this thread no longer have to read it since I've split it from Mike's post.

But just my 2 cents:
This topic isn't crude or rude like most of you are saying, as a matter of fact, I think it's an excellent topic compared to the normal crap we get around here.
It's NOT just a thread discussing Jay's virginity, people are voicing their opinions about abstinence and sex. In my opinion this is alot better than the usual posts we get that consists mainly of:

Post 1: Jay's so cute when he's sleeping!
Post 2: Yeah I agree, he's so cute!
Post 3: Me too, I just wanna hug him!
Post 4: awwwwww, what a cutie!
Post 5: :love: :excited: :D :) hE lOoKz LiKe A LiL baBiEEE!!! :love: :love:

We can only talk so much about how cute he is, or whether he has dandruff or not. This is alot more interesting.

BTW notice how all the guys are avoiding this topic like the plague?
Continue on with the discussion.

[aDrena]

I'm with vivien: the bottomline is, he's MALE above age of 16. Jay or not, he's gona have his urges. while he's painfully shy about sensitive issues, it does not automatically signify that he's still virgin.
its not anything bad, really. although its a taboo subject in Asian countries, i read somewhere that the world's average age for the loss of virginity is 16.7, so many ppl are indeed engaging in pre-marital sex, taboo or not.
as long as it is sex between consenting parties, i dont see a prob ("there will always be somebody who wants exactly what you want" -Veronika Decides to Die). therefore whether jay is virgin or not will not affect how i see him, unless he's some pedophile. :crazy:

[Gwen910]

Hmm...ost of the guys I know, that are my age, are still virgins and I totally respect them for that. In fact, I know more girls my age that aren't virgins! I personally don't believe in premarital sex, but that's just me and I won't be condemning anyone for it. (If I did, I wouldn't be friends with half the girls I know!)

But as far as talking about celebrities and whether they've "done the deed" or not, I think it happens a lot with regard to celebrties you like and/or look up to. You may not ask your idol when you meet him.her, but it's still there in the back of your mind..
Half the fun is wondering...:D

[dudett09]

woah- just found this topic! veri interesting. even tho i'm young compared to sum of u, i think he's had sex. i mean, common! he's a guy. and in candy's website, when the reporters asked him about it, he fidgitted[?], and admitted he had "urges", when asked when, he blushed "dont ask these questions..." . he's done it. and 8 relationships isn't that much. unless u mean SERIOUS serious ones

[-dream-]

hmm..i agree with Karen about this whole topic, it's not that we're just trying to dig up everything about Jay and acting like annoying fans or even trying to invade his personal life, we were just curious about it, and what we think about it. Before i'd like to think that he's a virgin, but i guess there is a point, he's 24 years old and it seems like this whole society promotes premarital sex anyways, and plus he's had 8 girlfriends before..well, but hey, nobody in this forum can possibly know whether he's a virgin or not, and i'm pretty sure he'd never tell the media neither, since it's such a personal matter. personally tho, i don't agree with premarital sex no matter how old the person is, mainly because of my religion, so i'd keep my abstinence until i'm married, but no matter what, if Jay really did it, it's for someone he loves, because i don't believe he's the type to do these things just for the heck of it.

[babyxv]

er hem!..... *uncomfortably clearing throat*

.....*puts head on chopping board*

i may be unpopular after this but i say giv the guy a break and stop discussin this VERY personal matter about his sex life, huh people? we're loyal jay fans , aren't we? we lurve him, don't we? do we want to act like those vultures a.k.a journalists and start spreading rumors abt his virginity?

c'mon, stop it already....

....*looking around to see if anyone's charging over with a bayonet*...

yeah i agree. i wouldn't like my sex life being discussed among 1400+ people who don't even know me. BUT! this IS pretty interesting to read o_O i personally think he's a virgin. i obviously don't know him but he comes across as a very decent? guy who wouldn't have sex all the time? he was already writing songs for other singers before he was 20. and before that, i assume he was too young to think about going that far with a woman? :? and if you think about it, he couldn't have gotten very far in most of his relationships if he's had EIGHT girlfriends in the past 6ish years.

i thought it was surprising that most of you thought he wasn't a virgin!

[jeansco_84]

yeah i agree. i wouldn't like my sex life being discussed among 1400+ people who don't even know me. BUT! this IS pretty interesting to read o_O i personally think he's a virgin. i obviously don't know him but he comes across as a very decent? guy who wouldn't have sex all the time? he was already writing songs for other singers before he was 20. and before that, i assume he was too young to think about going that far with a woman? :?

as much as i believe that we all can memorize and repeat every single detail about Jay's profile and the 10 million awards he's won, we really don't know him on a personal basis (well, maybe except for Mike--the luckiest man on earth). i mean, even if he really isn't a virgin, the only ppl he might actually 'share' this kind of info would be Geng Hong and Xiao Chu...(maybe his mother even??? :rock: )

but like a lot of u guys said, Jay seems like a super decent guy. i mean, in the "jay's funny quotes", he even said that he's afraid to comment or walk close the the miss hk pagent contestents cuz he's afraid that he might blush his head off :love: ...so for me, i personally don't think that he's 'done it' before. :p

[kewlpiggy88]

mmm..i have 2 opposing arguments for this topic:
-he's christian, and christians believe in abstinence
BUT
-my guy friend pointed out that deep down inside, everybody is horny, even the nerdy ppl. so basically, while jay may be shy...he may really be pretty horny and stuff. who knows.

i agree w/ karen tho, it's a good topic to see the view of ppl about sex from ppl from all over the world.

since i'm close to 15, i really don't know what i think about it...but i still think abstinence is probably the best cuz i'm pretty innocent. but who knows. my view may change in a couple of years.

kewlpiggy88

[-dream-]

well...there was a discussion on whether Jay is christian or not, and i believe that Jay isn't a christian, because i remember reading somewhere that his mother is one, and she wanted him to be one too, but he isn't, well not from what i know anyways...and yah..it's true everyone has sexual needs, it's only natural, but it's another thing when you act on it. and haha...a horny Jay? :D well..i guess you're right tho, who knows? Only the person himself, will know what he's really thinking of deep inside.

[satanrina]

Also, I really do not care if he has a big ding ding because I'm not going to sleep with him anyway. Same goes for whether he is a virgin or not. I'll be more proud of him if he ever comes clean.

Me: "What is this salty discharge?"
Friend: "Oh my God, you're crying."
Me: "This is horrible. I care."

Okie, I can't live the guilt. I care!! I care!!
It's okie if he's not a virgin anymore, but it would bother me if he made use of his celebrity status to lure (ok, I'm aware that it wouldn't take much luring) innocent victims (ok,not so innocent either) to bed. That, or if he's a paedophile.
And I'm insistant that he has a big ding ding

Correction needed here:
According to my male friend, I got the lingo wrong. Ding-ding= testicles and Wee-wee=penis. But as we've come so far....

Karen:
It's a good idea to move this thread. It's quite a touchy subject in Asian countries. But I thought it was one of the few interesting subjects worth discussing. And where are the guys in this forum?

Weird dude/chick who pm-ed me:
Yes, I'm a virgin, happy now?? And if you think I'm crude, you just wait til you experience some of my :profanit: :profanit: :profanit:

[Mike]

OMG, how could i have missed this thread!?

I think Jay's a virgin... He's so shy i doubt he really cares about sex.

This thread is really interesting...!

EDIT: No, we didn't talk about girls... We talked a lot about music, he was really into that conversation.

[Chun Li]

Satanrina and Karen,

I agree.

If you feel that this thread is too crude for you, then you are welcome to abstain from reading it. Unlike posts about Jay's personal hygiene (aka. Does Jay have Dandruff??) This thread has gotten members of this board to FINALLY post well-thought out responses. Many of the posts we receive here take less than even 1 second to think up. Many of the posts that we get here are pure crap by nature and deserve to be deleted. However, this is one of the few threads (except the ones in the VIP forum) that has actually gotten many members to take time to think of an adequate response.

I've also noticed that some people are uncomfortable with this topic just because it's about SEX. Moreover, many people seem to see Jay having sex as a BAD thing. Why? What's wrong with Sex? Several religions of this world have condemned Sex to be a bad thing and if that's what you believe, then so be it. However keep in mind that, Sex is natural, Sex is survivial, Sex is not disgusting but a way for humans to reproduce. Therefore conversation about this topic should be read with an open mind and not that idea that we are talking about a grotesque act.

Lastly, I don't believe that we are spreading rumors about Jay. What we have here is just the opinions of members wondering if he is a virgin or not. The bottom line is: We won't know. However, it's still a more in-depth topic to discuss compared to, "Does Jay wipe his ass after he does a #2???" because questions about sex are sometimes taboo by nature and rarely does one find a comfortable enough place to discuss it. Censorship does nothing but kill inquisitive minds.

I feel sorry for people who do not possess the ability to seperate the gossip from the truth, along with people who shy away from topics because of their own uneasiness towards the conversation.

Women would not have gotten the rights to work or the rights to be seen as equals if they did not challenge "uncomfortable" issues. Discussion is everything.

[jay's_beibee]

thx mike, for getting back to that question re: if you guys talked about girls.
now going back to the topic at hand, i think there's a general misconception that if someone has had premarital sex then he/she is a BAD human being or equivalently, jay MUST be a virgin in order for him to be that adorable, innocent sweetheart we imagine him to be. i v. much agree that yes, if a person engages in casual sex with no thought or meaning attached to the act, then that person could v. well be classified as an irresponsible, possibly sad and shallow individual. but on the otherhand, a person who makes love with someone whom he/she loves and truly cares for in a strong and stable relationship who could/would never share the experience with any other person in the world, then that person should not be viewed as less respectable or dignified than someone else who simply chooses to wait or hasn't found the right person yet. what i'm trying to say is that it's only my opinion, along with some others, that it is HIGHLY likely that jay has already lost his virginity to some girl (i hope i, at least, got the gender part of this right), whether the rest of you like or not, and that doesn't lessen my appreciation for him as a celebrity, musician and individual one bit at all. okie, this has got to be the longest post ever!! do we have a statistic for that too? umm...nevermind, i think chun li has just beat me here!! maybe next time.

[Chun Li]

I think the whole issue revolving around Sex is characterized by how people view the "way" they have sex, i.e. with someone they love versus with a prostitute. I think sex is beautiful with the right person, objectified through sex for money.

I think if that we'd get a good idea of Jay's ideas about sex if he ever comments on his views on sex before marriage for teens.

[-dream-]

Yes, sex is supposed to be beautiful, it's a natural thing for human beings, and without it there won't be a next generation, it's a cycle, and it's something that really has nothing wrong with it, it's just that now in a society like this, everything is perverted, and people's minds think like this. There's nothing wrong with sex, and it's nothing that we can avoid, or need to avoid. The thing is that some people disagree with premarital sex because of religious reasons, and that's the way they chose to look at it, but it doesn't mean that if someone's had premarital sex, then they are a bad person.

[kewlpiggy88]

yes yes! i agree with you guys! all too many times sex in the media is portrayed as a one night stand with someone you barely know. it's lust, not love. on the other hand, if you love that special someone enough and you guys are stable and responsible enough to take on the consequences that may come with having sex, then sure, it's great.

i'm glad there are people in this forum who can come out and talk about this otherwise sensitive topic and we don't hafta blush or hide our eyes about it.
kewlpiggy88

[cici bebe]

Didn't he say he got out his sexual urges by playing basketball? lol No wonder he's killer on the court ;D

[Quiet Boy]

wow, ive gotta get jay to teach me how to satisfy sexual urges by playing basketball :o

but seriously, celebrities and famous people are seldom really like what they act like in public... even jay

[Mike]

he seriously siad that? if that really works then... i would like to learn!

[munchi_75]

Didn't he say he got out his sexual urges by playing basketball? lol No wonder he's killer on the court ;D

LOL!! haha

this is the most interesting topic i have ever come across! like wat karen said...it's betta than the other ones...even if it is offensive.

i doubt jay's a virgin..[even tho i wish he was]
jay is a guy - guys are horny! and he's like 24 now - apparently during ur late teens and early 20s, ur most horny :? and wat guy would go thru 8 gfs without having any sexual urges!

and about his "diao" [literal meaning] - not all azns are small....vast majority, hopefully Jay is the minority. he has big hands!

i dun wanna sound like a pervert or anything...but at the end of 'the one' dvd - the making of it...u can see Jay in a harness and they show his thingo...i doesn't look that small.. imo

:twisted:

[Mike]

yea, i would like to know what people in asia's point of view is... i think it's pretty similiar to here in America, like my cousins we would joke about it and talk about it, it's sorta jsut an open issue i guess...

[babyxv]

there's absolutely no way jay could live 24 years without having sexual urges. what human could right? i never thought about this topic so my first reaction was "he is a virgin" just because he has such an innocent image. but i would be more shocked if he weren't a virgin.

this topic really is the best topic i've come across. i've never thought so much about JAY before.

i find it really amusing reading about his weewee. never thought about THAT either!

Didn't he say he got out his sexual urges by playing basketball? lol No wonder he's killer on the court ;D

that's pretty smart... doing something else to distract himself?

[Mike]

I still think he's virgin, by being around him, you can sort of feel what he's like and i don't think he had sex before. 8 girl friends? that's not much. Some people in 7th grade have had 10 girlfriends. and sure everyone would have sexual urges but you can control them.. He looks like someone who knows how to control them... ie: play basketball...

lol

but that's just what i feel.

[Mike]

are you talking about me?

if you are... "THANK YOU, THANK YOU"


if not... *slowly walks out of thread*

[munchi_75]

hehe

a guy's opinion on sex? it'd be interesting to read...
*sits back and waits for a guy to voice his opinion*

[Mike]

*ahem* *ahem* Mike = Guy *ahem* *ahem*

I can bet though, that Geng Hong is not a virgin. He likes to talk about girls and joke around... and which girl wouldn't want to have sex with that muscular body? lol jk

[cici bebe]

Mike STAY! ;D (and spread the word to your fellow guys)

10 girlfriends in 7th grade?! Do guys that young even know what a girlfriend is compared to just going out with them? A simple date doesn't classify the girl as a guy's girlfriend..


So yeah .. we're all waiting for more guys to arrive to voice their opinions.. AHEM..

[Mike]

well, it's not taken as seriously but it is more than jsut a simple date... like, now everyone has a girlfriend or had a girlfriend, probably liek 10 years ago 7th graders didn't know what a girlfriend was (exaggeration)... but it's different now.

i guess jsut puppy love :D

[munchi_75]

*ahem* *ahem* Mike = Guy *ahem* *ahem*

I can bet though, that Geng Hong is not a virgin. He likes to talk about girls and joke around... and which girl wouldn't want to have sex with that muscular body? lol jk

hehe..mike...ur classified as one of the gurls atm.. :p

[Mike]

lol, ok... if you say so...

[choo min]

I still think he's virgin, by being around him, you can sort of feel what he's like and i don't think he had sex before. sure everyone would have sexual urges but you can control them.. He looks like someone who knows how to control them... ie: play basketball...


i totally agree with mike, especially since mike is a guy and has been in close contact with jay before. even if a guy has sexual urges, it doesn't mean that he HAS to have sex... he can just control himself, and jay really seems too shy to ever get to that stage with a girl...

[Gwen910]

Amen to everything you guys have already said! (And yay to Mike for "starting" this whole conversation and actually sticking through it! As a guy's perspective of course.:D) I agree with a lot of you guys in that sex isn't a bad thing, but it can be a mistake. I don't believe in casual sex...there's nothing casual about it!

And with Jay and his 8 girlfriends...we don't exactly know how long he was with each of them right? So if it was just for a short period of time, then maybe nothing of that nature happened...?

And the thing with sexual urges...I agree with those who said it can be taken care of doing other things...ie basketball or even writing his music. Like all the passion he has pent up inside can be written down and sung...

[Chun Li]

In Japan, actually, sex seems like it's a conservative topic but thats totally not the case right now, especially for teens. Young girls have sex with old men for money so they can purchase their brand name clothing and purses, and some even sell their underwear to men for money. In more rural areas, the conservative nature stays a little bit, but all in all sex is a lot more accepted in Japan than in the US. Porn magazines and videotapes are sold on the streets, and although rare, they used to have underwear vending machines. I've seen everything but the undewear machine to I dont have proof for that, but I must say that in general, sex is much more openly discussed among the younger generation and its more casual as well. There are love hotels that charge by the hour so you can do your "thing" and leave.

Also, Kimutaku (Kimura Takuya) who is/was practically the #1 male celebrity in Japan for his entire life practically, openly discusses how and when he masturbates. The young teenage girl magazines as well show sexual positions and comics about sex.

So, sex in general in Japan is a lot more accepted. If anything, I think sex in the US is looked down a lot more than Japan.

[Jam]

I think he didn't "do it" before.. coz, he don't even want to kiss that ger in "Hui Dao Guo Qu"... What about doing that "thing"? hahaha! Thatz my personal opinion. :)

[ashley]

Over here in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, 'chastity' is a word that few teenagers comprehend. sex before marriage is very common and like the other young people in your part of the world, anyone who's still a virgin by the time he reaches 24 is a national treasure.
but the government would still like our youth to abstain from sex before marriage... partly due to the religion (Islam is the official religion but all non Malays have freedom to choose their religion in malaysia).

so the media is heavily censored where sex is concerned. even heavy petting is not spared. they think this will deter youngsters from having 'ideas' (but i beg to differ). people are not encouraged to display much of their affection in public but here in the city, this does not apply. sure, we're a little more conservative but sex is an open subject/topic of conversation around here.

[dazzlette]

wow! look at the responses for this topic.. really interesting some of the stuff u all have said.. anyhow this is my take on this...
personally i believe that he's a virgin.. it's this image of him that i have after reading a lot of reports and watching videos of him.. i just have a hunch he's still one..

i was talking to my guy fren once and he was talling me that the truth about guys is that most of them have sexual desires in them... ( i mean God created Man to be fruitful and multiply) the difference between a good guy and otherwise is dependent on whether he is able to control himself.. i mean this is rather pessimistic but he told me no guy can really be trusted when it comes to such desires.. (at that time innocent lil me was rather shocked!! haha)

so yes i believe that jay has such desires ( after all he did say he does like girls and not guys! haha ) but i kinda would like to believe that jay falls into the category of guys where he is able to control himself.. ( he plays basketball to get rid of the urges) haha and even if he had done it before.. it was with someone he felt was special to him.. okie this is just my 2 cents worth.. and btw i think most of my guy frens are still virgins so maybe i find it kinda hard to believe that the average age to lose virginity is 16.7.. or maybe it's just singapore

[Liliann]

i beleive dat Jay is still a virgin
i can see it all in him ,his shyness,his innocence...but den'' again it'z no big deal if he is not a virgin........sex(make luv wid'' da one dat u love is nothing wrong) both sides have responsibility and care for each other......if Jay reallii did it wid'' da one he luved.......den i feel happii for him........^^...........not like some other pplz juz'' take it for a one nite stand......
i trusts Jay....................he is a sweetz boy.....
btw does all guyz think bout'' sex all da'' time???? i mean isnt'' there one gud'' guy in da'' world dat dont'' think bout'' it???? isnt'' there other betta'' things to think bout'' ???
shouldnt'' guyz think bout'' sex after married ????

[satanrina]

I still think he's virgin, by being around him, you can sort of feel what he's like and i don't think he had sex before. 8 girl friends? that's not much. Some people in 7th grade have had 10 girlfriends. and sure everyone would have sexual urges but you can control them.. He looks like someone who knows how to control them... ie: play basketball...


*Evil laugh*
Mike, you should post this in the other thread so the ppl there can finally have some peace of mind.
Well, this really clears up why Jay likes basketball so much
*Evil laugh*

Chun Li:
I agree that the younger Japanese are really open about sex, but in a bad way. It probably started as a form of emulation of the ways of Westerners, and then started to go downhill. Some of the youngsters nowadays are no better than prostitutes, and it saddens me that ppl in other Asian countries such as Taiwan, China and even Singapore are bucking the trend.
Casual sex in Japan is more prevalent than in the US because they lack the common sense to introduce sex education in schools there. So even though the teens are sexually active, sex is still considered a taboo there by the older generation.

Ashley:
Really? I've somehow got the impression that sexuality issues are frowned upon in Malaysia. I read in the the papers that in some of the more Islamic states of Malaysia, tourists were banned from wearing bikinis, and they have inspectors checking out hotels to catch couples who commit "kalwat" who are then punished severly. From what I gather from the papers, it is wrong even for a man and a women who have no blood relation to even be in the same room together. I find that an obscene invasion of privacy. Is that true?

[levi]

i think jay's still a virgin. its not that he looks like one (though he does) but the way he answers questions about girls during interviews makes him seem like the kind of person that will really know how to treasure a girl and treat her right that kind of thing..

[wheee]

Hey, interesting discussion!! U guys have managed to turn a rather distasteful subject ("how beeeg is his theeeng") into a very frank and thoughtful discussion!

What I think is that we shouldn't view people who've slept wif someone before marriage as "impure" or "bad"... even if we think that sex before marriage is a no-no (which is what i believe), we shouldn't impose our standards or beliefs onto others who don't feel this way or weren't brought up with this thinking. Thus, not everyone thinks that sleeping with someone b4 marriage is impure so we should not think of them as such.

So... since this is about Jay's virginity status, try not to be devastated if he doesn't happen to be a virgin, or think that he is "bad"...having said that, I hope he didn't lose his virginity in a drunken one-night stand kind of thing!!

[en_en]

I've always thought the Asian countries were more conservative, but I guess time's changing. I mean, I'm pretty young compare to a lot of you guys, but in Taiwan when I was young I have never even thought about sex. It's never crossed my mind, maybe because I was so young... but last summer I had a friend come up from Taiwan, and when I asked about it, (it was just a casual question) she dodged it. So I guess Asian countries still aren't as comfortable about the subject. But it's funny, in Japan there's doujinshi (sp?) usually fan art drawn with hentai behavior...am I right? Maybe i got it wrong...and also, I remember a cartoon watched in Taiwan, there's rape and stuff so really, they don't bother to censor it. It's out there, but people are still touchy at the subject.

What I'm saying is that it's really different here and there, here they censor things, like on SM, they dubbed it so the evil Zoisite (MALE!) villian would not be gay.

That's another thing, what's so wrong with homosexuality? We went back to China last summer and saw guys holding hands (just in a friendsly way) and my sister immediatley assumed they were gay.

Also, in Xiao Zhu's book, where Jay asked him to sleep with him, I know if it ever made newspaper here, everyone would jump to one conclusion: He's gay!!

Sorry, off the tpic, but just felt like expressing it...whew.

As for Jay...I still think he isn't, but then again, i'm in between b/c I really don't see time when he can and also b/c he's so shy...

[faithe]

hahaha very sensitive topic leh....
but the responses are HILARIOUS MAN.....had a good laugh reading all your postings...

i personally think he's not a virgin la....he is 24 years old liao leh....and 8 girlfrens?!?!?! i DIN KNOW THAT lor...thats a lot i think.....

of cuz i would like to think he IS a virgin, but reality is often the opposite of dreams hahahahah.....

[jayx8318x]

but last summer I had a friend come up from Taiwan, and when I asked about it, (it was just a casual question) she dodged it. So I guess Asian countries still aren't as comfortable about the subject.

This reminds me of this (mainland) Chinese girl that was in one of my classes before, we were talking about censorship on the internet, and somehow the topic about dildos came up, and she leaned over and asked me "What's a dildo?" I admit I was kinda embarassed she asked me, so I just brushed her off :oops:
But I guess little things like that have shaped my perception of how other Asian countries treat sex. I mean isn't it true that most boys in China learn about sex thru the internet?

Off on another tangent, I think its ridiculous how in the US they try hard to censor sexual content, teach safe sex, etc., but you see it sooo much nowadays, more than when they WEREN'T trying to censor it as much. I mean even commercials like Herbal Essences uses sex to sell...shampoo!! And the other day I saw an AOL commercial doing the same thing. An internet company using sex to sell its products!!
Even most movies are now PG-13 when they would have been rated R two years ago.
Everywhere you go its SEX SEX SEX. How far is it gonna go when I have kids? Are we gonna see naked people all the time on public TV?

[Chun Li]

Chun Li:
I agree that the younger Japanese are really open about sex, but in a bad way. It probably started as a form of emulation of the ways of Westerners, and then started to go downhill. Some of the youngsters nowadays are no better than prostitutes, and it saddens me that ppl in other Asian countries such as Taiwan, China and even Singapore are bucking the trend.
Casual sex in Japan is more prevalent than in the US because they lack the common sense to introduce sex education in schools there. So even though the teens are sexually active, sex is still considered a taboo there by the older generation.


Yes, I agree that their knowledge about sex is usually headed in a negative way. There is one thing about the Japanese culture that I don't agree with, the fact that they think, "Ignorance is Bliss." As long as they don't know about it, it won't harm them. I was reading a study done in a pretty reputable Japanese magazine in Japan, and a lot of young people said (on the topic of AIDS) that, "We don't have AIDS in Japan here, like in Africa. We don't have to worry about having sex as long as we do it with other Japanese people." How ignorant is that?

And precisely because the government tends to turn a blind eye and avoid the topics that they feel uncomfortable with, the youth don't learn anything!! Wasn't I saying earlier that people who avoid issues they feel uncomfortable with are actually just being ignorant? Their government not only runs away from Sex education, but also from the atrocities committed during WWII on China and Korea, as well as discrimination issues with the Chinese and Korean residents of Japan. However, not only Japan does this. The Chinese government also refused to admit they had an AIDS problem (over 1 million people infected!), refused to admit that e-waste is causing entire villages in China to have cancer, and also sex education!! I can't stand it! I understand that this type of attitude is deeply ingrained in Asian culture, but in a world where disease and viruses know no bounds, is this really the realistic way to approach problems that could result in the destruction of the human race?

Anyways.

@Karen

I actually think that currently, the US is more taboo about sex than anywhere else. It could be because of the religion. Christianity and Catholicsm really frown upon sex before marriage, etc. Compared to Asian countries that are usually athiest or have many gods, it's probably harder for Americans who believe in those religions to change their views with sex. Buddhism, Hinduism, and several other old religions all consider sex as natural. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that even in Islam Sex is not viewed as a disgusting act as it is by some very extreme Christians.

[lotus087]

Hmmm... I think I'm totally sorta confused about the whole sex thing. In the US while it seems like everyone has done it, in certain ways it seems to be quite restricted. Like last summer, I went to Taiwan and I walked into an anme store hoping to get the latest episode of Inu-Yasha, and I accidentally wander into the *wrong* section... in other words hentai. And the owner comes up to me and asks whether I wanted him to recommend me something. Recommend ME something! I just got so embarassed because my Mandarin is somewhat broken, and I was just nervous that I couldn't really think of anything either so I just ran out the door!

First of all, I'm a girl so that just seems weird, and two, I can barely pass for 13 in America. My boyfriend says I look like I'm 12... And then one summer I was in Japan, there was a vending machine for *used* schoolgirls' underwear...

I thought Asian countries were a bit more conservative but I guess things are changing. I mean you look at a lot of Asian pop culture these days, and it's more explicit than in the US, but it just seems that when it comes to actual sex it's still more casual in the US. It's sorta like because not as many people do it there, they have more outlets.

As for me, I'm one of the "traditional folk." Probably wait until I'm married. I don't know while the idea obviously is intriguing and tempting in its own way, I just feel it takes an emotional and physical maturity that I don't have, in addition to a certain tradition I hold on to.

[Sparkling_Jade]

it´s really funny in japan, how ppl there seem so conservative and timid, but if u look at the pop-culture there, u can see that they´re actually kinda kinky :p LOL like in alot of animes and mangas there is sex and other hentai stuff (especially gays are a popular topic there)
i dont think there´s anything wrong with that, it´s a good thing to discuss openly bout sex, but it´s still a bit weird imagining a 10-year-old kid reading a manga with sex in it..

my mom told me, that when she was 20 or so, she had a lot of friends who didnt know how to "do it"... not even when they got married.. their parents never told them about "how to make babies" some of them just bought books secretly and read about that stuff. and others, well, i guess they just tried it out... okay, i know it was a long time ago, but it just proves how asian ppl are so timid when it comes to sex.

[-dream-]

yah...i never really thought of Japan as this free to sex related topics, but this world is changing. And i agree as well, that everyone looks at sex in the wrong way. Teens should be educated about it because those that aren't, go on internet to learn about it, or they just learn it in other not so healthy ways. It's a sensitive subject, and sometimes even parents are embarassed to talk about it to their children.

Christianity and Catholicsm really frown upon sex before marriage, etc. Compared to Asian countries that are usually athiest or have many gods, it's probably harder for Americans who believe in those religions to change their views with sex. Buddhism, Hinduism, and several other old religions all consider sex as natural. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that even in Islam Sex is not viewed as a disgusting act as it is by some very extreme Christians.

Yes, Christians and Catholics do look at sex before mariage as a big thing, but i don't think that they are seeing sex as a disgusting thing, they're not condemning people who have sex, but they do believe strongly that it is wrong to have it before mariage. People say they are holding on too tightly at the fact that premarital sex is wrong, but really, is there really no point in there? In a society like this nowadays, people see everything in a perverted way with perverted minds, and sex is just like a pleasurable activity to them, a way of getting pleasure. but really, sex is supposed to be a special bonding between two people who are truly in love, but do people really look at it in that sense anymore?

[Mike]

jayx8318x> maybe becuase they try so hard to censor eveyrthing that it creates an urge to want to get past the PG-13 rating and or watch an R movie when you're not old enough. things liek that. Like my mom's strict, and when she's pissed, i try to piss her off even more... you know?

[fantasiekisz]

i hope jay is virgin still! you guys abstinence is keyy! haha! but seriously hopefully jay believes that...

[munchi_75]

there's like all these naked woman 'posing' and stuff in the cosmo mag in aust. faaarrrkkk

it's like porn...and it wasn't even sealed..

wat's with guys and porn anyway? FS? ur opinion?

[Quiet Boy]

lol what???
im too innocent to know about this kind of stuff... :angel:

anyway, i read an article in the newspaper a few weeks ago, about sex exposure to children in australia: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/03/1046540134744.html
but i think that kids have to learn about sex from somewhere, because parents are usually too embarassed to teach em themselves

[Mike]

what's there to be imbaressed about?

[mjay]

What is this?Seems like u guys are more inerested in sex than Jay! Talk about Jay lah.

[munchi_75]

we can talk bout both..

- sex and Jay -

try using those two words in a sentence! :p

[satanrina]

Karen:
Well, at least they made a effort in sex education, can't say the same for the most parts of the world.
And as for the influx of sex in commercials and movies, the consumers can only blame themselves. The advertisers/producers only want their products to take off and sex sells!!
If consumers do not fall for that same marketing gimmick time and time again, then the advertisers/producers can probably take the effort to come out with something less offensive and a lot more imaginative.
Looking on the bright side, by the time your kids reach the age of rebellion, it would probably to cool to cover up from head to toe, since that'll be against the norm.

Chun Li:
"Ignorance is Bliss" usually comes with "Elders are always Correct". Lots of ppl in Asian countries listen mindlessly to whatever information that the authority feed them with.And even if they know that the authorities are wrong, they do not find it appropriate and disrespectful to argue and back their own beliefs (did I mention dangerous even?).
And because the authorities tend to cover-up or avoid those topics you've mentioned, the younger generation are either too ignorant or too disappointed with the system to bother to change it.
Look at the political culture now; with all the news reports about Japanese ladies swooning over Kozumi and voting for him for looks alone/ the China govt who has the right to ban anything and anything that will bring embarrassment to the country, no matter how true it is/ and of course those clowns ppl call politicians in Taiwan.
Is it any wonder why the world is in such a mess?

Mike & FS:
I'm lucky that my parents have made it a point to discuss all issues (including sex) with me when I was young. They still do now, and I really appreciate that. I'm only 21 but sometimes I feel older because ppl around me are only interested in discussing trivial issues. And because I always feel that I've to dumb myself down to blend in with the ppl around me, I''m really glad to find a forum to express myself. Thanks to the peeps here.

[aina]

Well, here in Indonesia, “sex” is not a taboo topic to discuss but taboo when talking about premarital sex, although there’s alot of couple did that, but still premarital sex is forbidden until someone getting married, and most of my friends are still virgin (maybe all of them, i dun think my friends will do premarital sex)
Bout Jay, i think he’s still a virgin, he’s a shy boy, very shy boy.
I understand guy have needs, but doesn’t Jay have a lot chinese pride???i think chinese ppl have a strong belief for “eastern culture” that it’s forbidden to do sex b4 marriage, same here in indonesia.
Horny jay?? LOL every guy’s horny but depend on theirself to got out their sexual urges (positively or negatively), and our jay got out his sexual urges by playing bball that’s positive one!!!!
Hey , Landy was jay’s girlfriend??? I dunno about it!!! (>0<)
8gf, and i read somewhere, that all jay’s gf are shy girl, dun think that type of girl would do *sex* , 2 ordinary shy people did “sex”??? i dun think so
only jau himself knows the truth!!!:)

[cici bebe]

I forget how I learned about sex.. probably from movies or just common sense. I've been watching R movies since I was like 6.. my mom used to manage a theater in HK and my sis and I could go in and see anything anytime for free. So yeah that explains.

I don't think parents understand that if they tell us it'd be better than if we find out ourselves. If they told us ahead of time they can voice their opinions about no sex before marriage or safe sex etc. A lot of parents think if they can avoid the subject their kids won't find out either and that leads to a lot of miscommunication and sometimes oops there's a baby and then it's too late.

That is so bizaare about the Japan sex thing.. especially selling "used" underwear? I don't see how those vending machines actually make money.

[mjay]

Hey jayx8318x, sorry! wasn't trying to offend anyone

[Mike]

It's ok mjay...!


I found out about it myself, or just being around people, reading, watching movies (not porn), and just my surroundings. I think it's fine, i wouldn't be better off if my parents told me ahead of time. If they did tell me, i'd probably know about it before anyone else did and that's not good... I guess it doesn't matter which way... everyone ends up learning about it...


I was just wondering, who here would like to have sex with Jay? (i'm jsut wondering, not that you're sexually attracted to him or anything... just who thinks they want to ahve sex with JAy)


EDIT:wow... what a disturbing question... ^

[cici bebe]

No, I wouldn't have sex with Jay.

I dunno is that shocking?

I'd like to meet him or just be his friend (or shi mei!!! ;D) but sex is a little too over the line especially since there's like a decade of age difference between Jay and me.

[kewlpiggy88]

i agree w/ cici bebe...it'd be too gross and i'm way too young. plus, i don have that kind of attraction toward him. i'd just be glad to have a really good guy friend. yay! friends w/ jay! i realli wish so. i think we'd be really good friends..lol.
kewlpiggy88

o yeah, to chun li: yeah, sex in japan seems to be way more accepted than in the U.S. i was watching these japanese doramas, and this teenage couple just decided to go to a love hotel and do it. they didn't even seem to be in love or anything - they just did it to like "consummate" (is that the rite term?) their relationship. imo, japanese ppl tend to be the most horniest ppl.

kewlpiggy88

[munchi_75]

imo, japanese ppl tend to be the most horniest ppl.


i agree! in general, Japs are horny...but not all of em.


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having sex with Jay?

hmmm *thinks for 20 mins*

- no comment -

actually...to tell the absolute truth...if iwas older and i actually knew Jay in person, then yes :unsure: [wow...that was personal]

[Gwen910]

The Japan sex "issue" is an interesting one. Their anime and manga aren't just directed at children, they're for the sults too. But everyone ends up watching and reading it all. They seem quite fixated on the topic. I think I was 10 when I first saw Ranma and was weirded out by the fact that he changes into a girl...and that all the girls in the series are well-endowed.Things are the same way and lots of anime is sensored before it hits the States. They're trying to keep things closer to the original on Cartoon Network with airing stuff on Adult Swim, which airs late at night. So with all that said, I think Japanese youth grow up thinking that it's okay to have sex "whenever". It's a conditioning they get as they grow up, whereas it's different in the States. A lot of people here feel that if you see it, then you'll want to do it. Which is ironic as many of you have pointed out that American commercialism uses mostly sex to sell. Americans just contradict themselves left and right...

[kayelle]

how did i miss this topic??..anyway..now that i'm here...of course i have to add my 2 cents worth..
well..i dunno if jay is still a virgin or not..some of u guys say he is because he's so shy...so u can't imagine him making his moves..but i was thinking...assuming he did it with someone he loves, wouldn't that mean he is comfortable enough with her to do it?? well..i guess this leads to another topic.. how do u guys define love or a love relationship? to me, it means 2 ppl who like/attracted to each other and feel comfortable to be themselves around each other. each accepts each for the way they are.. i think this is the most ideal relationship..no need to worry what the other party thinks of u all the time and u can just be yourself no matter how gross/disgusting u are..hahaha..i think most couples who've been married for ages achieve that state..hehe...
as for abstinence.. i believe in it...but sometimes i wonder whether i'll actually practice it.. i remember asking one of classmates whether she believes in sex before marriage...(i was curious as to whether she's still a virgin actually..at that time we were 17) she has a steady bf for about 3 years already i think (they're still together!)..and she didn't actually answer it..she just said she'll do it when it's the right time and the right person..which of course leads to the question..when is the right time? i think u'll know when the time comes..

[Chun Li]

Mike,

I would not have sex with Jay just because he is a celebrity. He has to earn my love and trust first, like everyone else, and those two elements are not easily procured.

@ satanrina

Yes, I agree that lots of asians just listen to their elders. It comes from the hierarchy embedded in the asian culture through thousands of years. The examination system developed in China is an example of this fact - most scholars who passed the tests just regurgiated whatever they memorized. No matter what government system it is, it is always flawed. The Chinese government, Japanese government, Korean Government, and yes, the US government all piss me off. Not to mention all the other governments in the world. Nothing is perfect and I assume hoping for a perfect government is just too naive and idealistic. Augh. The Taiwanese government. Don't even get me started on them. The Japanese government pisses me off, the Korean government exasperates me, the Chinese government causes me to feel utter disbelief, but it is none other than the Taiwanese government that causes me to feel shame.

@ karen

I find that Americans use Sex in almost all of their advertisements. It's annoying and insulting. Yet, the American consumer falls for it everytime. Whether it's soap, gum, shampoo, even junk food... some ads will use sex as a marketing tool. It's so insulting to see them do this, and even more depressing to see how some of the dimwitted Americans support it blindly with money.

Anyway, I would like to see the forum evolve into a higher intellectual level. It would only benefit all of us. Since it's a forum focused on a celebrity, it's harder, but not impossible. Hopefully more people who have an idea of world issues will find their way here.

[xoxo]

actually, people in Asian countries are as into sex as people in the west. somehow asians are just able to present a better physique what with their traditions and all and so it seems to outsiders that they are indeed that conservative. maybe because asians seemingly dont talk about it. i mean, me and my friends do have discussions about it from time to time. and these kids around us who are seemingly nerds know more than we do..

and celebrities do tend to give out scripted answers to questions, especially those about sex

as for jay... well, i dont think he's a virgin. he's 24! and he's a guy, and there are the urges a guy cant get just by watching porn, you know. besides there is a saying that The boiling bubbles are inside'. so a seemingly shy boy like jay, could be more than what he seems to us.

[aina]

Hey , Landy was jay’s girlfriend??? I dunno about it!!! (>0<)


anyone can help me here????

[Serendipity]

Hey! I'm one of the late comers to this topic! Interesting!

I find it funny how some of you said "Yes, I believe/accept that Jay has his sexual urges and I can cope with that...etc" I mean, dun everybody have sexual urges? It is only normal to have them! Not only for Jay or for guys but girls as well!
There is nothing wrong with wanting sex, just that it's a responsibility that one has to take because of the consequences that comes with it. I do not advocate casual sex but I also believe that in our modern society, sex has become something less suppressed. Perhaps more talked about and more practised. I don't think it is wrong to have permarital sex (and I only speak for myself and this does not apply to people who have religious constraints).
The problem lies with the people who have sex loosely and do not take precaution or responsibility for what may come after. Pregnancy, STDs, AIDS... all these are big issues to handle. Which is why sex is deemed fit for 'older' people, not so much for their age, but for their maturity and ability in taking such matters into consideration.
What bothers me is that this 'maturity' which should be imparted to the young as early as possible is often brushed off due to the conservative nature of asian societies. For convenience sake, and to save themselves the 'embarrassment', parents/teachers etc. would just say that sex is bad! That we just shouldn't have sex! That is really irresponsible because they totally instill the wrong kind of thinking into the young. There is nothing bad about sex unless it's abused. Think about it, you would get obese if you stuff yourself with food everyday and that would be a health hazard as well! But Hey! We still talk about food all the time!
So how do we know then, when is the right time to have sex? Perhaps nobody can give a definite answer to this question. But to equip each individual with the skill to differentiate between a whim and a true commitment and awareness is a good way to start.

On a lighter note, I didn't know what sex was until I was 14!!! My friend brought a picture book for teens to school (bought from the UK cos Singapore would never sell something like that even though it was educational and innocent enough). Anyway, they had explanations of all the body parts etc inside. In one picture they talked about sex and I was totally shocked when I realised what went on there! My parents never really talked about sex to me although we are open about all other topics... I don't really blame them for not being the 'liberal parents' that some people have... I guess it's really the way they were brought up and the society they were brought up in. I just hope that people in my generation would be more willing to share with their kids on this.

Would I have sex with Jay?
Yes I would.
Heck! I'm not gonna explain myself on this. You can judge me whatever way you want. :angel:

[finenergy]

:? I think if Jay sees this topic, sees his fans discussing his sex life,he will be so freaked out and embarrased! I think he will go into hiding for some time or heh heh ha heeee :rock: all of us..haha
ok....sorrry im off topic...... :dead:
:offtopic: :bonk:

[satanrina]

Mike:
Nothing in life is absolute.
I do agree with Chun Li that in the perfect scenario, the other party will be someone whom I love, and deserves my love as well. But there are few perfect scenarios in life. If the opportunity ever presents itself, heck, I think I’ll take it. I don’t want to look back at my life when I’m an old lady and think, damn, I missed the chance of a lifetime. So to answer your question, yes, I will want to have sex with Jay.
Please note that it’s just a fantasy. I’m not going to spend my whole life waiting for Jay to appear in front of me. I feel sorry for those ppl like those F4 fans reported in the papers who divorce their husbands or swore never to get married just because they think they will stand a chance with F4 by devoting their entire lives to them.

Serendipity:
Bravo. I applaud your honesty. I really did think that I’ll be the only one who’ll openly admit to having sexual fantasies involving Jay. If anyone judges you badly for expressing your opinion, I’ll kick their asses for you.

I gather that the general consensus at this forum is that sex is accepted granted that it takes place when a person can accept the responsibilities that come with it. Abstinence is of course important to many ppl, because of either religion or personal beliefs. But premarital sex shouldn’t be frowned upon provided the party concerned is ready and is prepared for the consequences, be it pregnancy or STDs. And of course, proper sex education is the key to a better society.

[vivien17]

sexual fantasies with jay? Don't every girl here have them? anyways, i won't have sex with jay if its jus a one-night stand affair, i think that'll haunt me too much, like the after-effects of never seeing him again will be too devastating for me. but i would do it if i know that he loves me, and of cos HE has to initiate it, im not abt to pounce on him and ravish him.. satanrina, u mean F4 fans do that?? like get divorced so they can be with F4?? god.. im glad no one here's crazy like that...

[hisashi]

I was thinking over yesterday and was indecisive..^^; but hey..y not?! even though I may not know him that well but an experience wld be good..:P: one night stand? maybe...I am not that obessed with him..but who knows..
no..not those F4 housewife fans..I'm not gonna be like them! -___- crazy...

[mUShy]

ha...i'm another late comer to the topic.

Karen: In my time (abt 10yrs back), sex was not an open topic for discussion. At least my parents never ever taught me anything about sex. My guess would be that they'd be too embarassed to answer if I ever asked and they wouldn't know how to put their message across to me.

I heard over the radio that recent survey have shown that Singaporeans are the top patronizers of porno web sites. Publications that address sex-related issues are selling like hot cakes. Too bad i missed the tv program that attempts to unveil the true Singaporean's perception of sex.
The government has introduced some form of sex-education (i think it's called moral education?) in secondary schools in recent yrs. I wonder how the teens find that. Perhaps we can hear it from them :)

mike: no i would not want to have sex with jay. I don't believe in sex without love. And I would prefer to refer to sexual intercourse as making love.

just my 2 cents worth :D

[-dream-]

er, somehow i can't imagine me and Jay having sex, it doesn't seem right, and as much as i love him, i don't recall having any sexual fantasies about him. it does seem a bit odd to me, and i agree that it should be with someone u love...i love Jay, but not in that kind of way.

[ashley]

i'm with dream on whether i would sleep with jay. i adore the guy, but i won't exactly call it LOVE as in falling in love kind of love. (ok, ok... you all get this). as with chun li, i also need my sex partner to meet a certain level of standard before i yield. so no, i won't have sex with jay and i don't fantasize abt him in that way. but i admit that i do fantasize abt how romanticly cute he can be if he were to court somebody he likes.. being the shy darling that he is.

and satanrina... boy, i almost forgot to answer you abt the strict male/female thing in malaysia . yes, for the two states (malaysia has 14), they are rather conservative. those two states are popluated by mostly malays (= muslims) and the females are required to practise covering their heads with scarves and not revealing any skin except the face, palms and feet. so to answer your question, yes, muslim women there are not allowed to be alone with a man who is not related to her. but that does not apply to non-muslims . however it is also true that they do not want to see bikini-clad foreigners hanging out.
so when i said sex is an open discussion, i meant amongst the more liberal mulims and the non-muslims.

[munchi_75]

Would I have sex with Jay?
Yes I would.
Heck! I'm not gonna explain myself on this. You can judge me whatever way you want. :angel:

u go gurl! at least ur not ashamed to admit it.....coz i admit it...i would as well >.<

and if u have a problem with my decision u can go f urself :D just kiddin

[Sparkling_Jade]

it´s kinda funny to imagine myself having sex wid jay, but yeah, i think i would do it. that is, if we would really hit it off...
and atleast i would have a great story to tell my kids LOL

[Gwen910]

I can honestly say that I have never had a sexual fantasy about Jay...I have thought that it would be cool to work with him, with recording and composing that is. (I was a music major with an emphasis on recording...it's pretty natural for me to have my dream list of musical collaborators. But that goes for most people.) I would actually love to work with all my favorite singers...

But sex probably not, unless we were dating and things were serious (ie leading towards marriage type of thing). But I don't pray for things like that, it's a bit unrealistic (getting together with Jay that is).

[steiffelephant]

i was just thinking, with all the STDs and AIDS... isn't that a sign that we shouldn't be having casual sex and that sex is a sacred thing and should really be something you do with the person you're married with?

according to statistics, the sale of condoms is way below the world average here in hk... which probably shows that we hk people don't have much sex cuz apparently we're not producing enough babies either. i sort of feel that normal hk teens do engage in sexual activities, but i don't think we're as overboard as the japanese. in certain areas, posters of women in underwear are posted all over the place.

like in japan, there are hotels that charge you by the hour so you can "do your thing". they even have ads outside so you can choose who you want to do it with... they have malays, russians, mainland chinese...

hope i'm not making this too long, but my parents have never really talked to me about sex. i really learned about it at sex ed at school. i mean, i think if my christian religion wasn't so firmly ingrained in me, i would be running off and having sex with my boyfriend at the moment, so i really think that it's important for parents to talk to their children about these issues.

last thing! i would not have sex with jay... i'd be kinda weird and disgusting if it was a one night stand

[Mike]

I bet STDs is a warning from God! Telling us not to have sex.

[pennylane]

i personally think that sex is a great thing, and being able to express your sexuality is such a gift!! so if jay's having sex, good for him...of course him being a virgin still is such a lovely thought....but i think thats all a part of how we look upon stars or ppl we look up to a lot. on a side not, a billion props to everyone who has contributed to this thread... i really like how people aren't shy about addressing the issue...its fun and fresh...

[Chun Li]

I bet STDs is a warning from God! Telling us not to have sex.

Are you joking? Or are you serious?

@ all the people who would love to sleep with Jay

I would too! But not if it was a one-night stand type deal. I don't really like the idea of one night stands. Then again, if you do sleep with Jay for just one night you have a chance of getting him to marry you. HAHA!

[Quiet Boy]

dont worry mike, we can give up sex when we discover human cloning and we can all have test tube babies instead :excited:

[finenergy]

!Cloning! :?
Cloning's freaky.... :oops:
doing the ermz...Original thing to have babies is better i think ... :twisted:
and hmmz....having a One night stand with Jay.... :crazy:
ABsoultely NoTtTtTt!

[Qi]

Give up sex? Humans are complex psychological and sexual beings. And these days, the functions of sex is even more varied. I think that most people will welcome having test tube babies but they'll still want sex, for a multitude of reasons. Maybe the idea of 'having sex' will adopt a more futuristic definition, like transmitting sexual energies through brainwaves without bodily contact or something. But it's still sex. Unless we've been grossly engineered to have no sexual organs, I don't think humans are about to give up sex willingly, other than for religious reasons. My perception is that healthy sex is essential to the human's overall well being. And since there's no cure yet for AIDS, even science can't produce human clones that will be immune to such a killer disease.

I remember reading an article once..about a total ban on sex in some part of Africa. Swaziland, I think. In a desperate effort to prevent the spread of AIDS, the king imposed a 5-year ban to forbid unmarried women from having sex, and couples are not allowed to marry for the next five years. To signify compliance to the ruling, unmarried women had to wear some sort of head-dress, so that men will not initiate sex with them. The number of deaths caused by AIDS in Africa may indeed frightening. But to combat something as fatal and widespread as AIDS, people need to be educated and women need to be empowered to say "No", and not be discriminated against by such outrageous rulings (banning them from sex) as if they are the cause of diseases. There are many people in Africa who still thinks that AIDS is a punishment from the divine Gods for crimes like theft. I think what's important is having the right information made accessible to everyone. As with all things in life, we have the right to make informed and responsible choices.

About sleeping with Jay..*looks left at my Location* Yes it's every girl's fantasy. But insincerity is a big turn-off for me, and I have a big distaste for one night stands. So though it sounds tempting, I wouldn't do it if it's a sex-only thing.

As for Jay's ding-ding. Based on the finger ratio (size to height ratio), I think it's a big ding-ding. I'm not sure if I can explain this clearly. Let's see. If you extend your thumb and index finger into an L, you get his height and size ratio, with the vertical finger indicating the height, and the horizontal finger being the size. Say, the L is upright, with the index finger being vertical, then it shows: tall guy, short ding-ding. Now flip 90 degrees, vertical thumb and horizontal index finger = short guy, big ding-ding. And Jay is a relatively short guy.
:)

[aDrena]

oh god, Qi, you crack me up *wipes away tears of mirth*

*sneaks a quick peek at "How Tall are you" thread in social Lounge* *snorts*

ok, to contribute to this serious discussion: yes, i believe that there must be some reason for humans being the only creatures besides dolphins to have sex for reasons other than procreation. therefore, for whatever unknown reasons, we should put our ding-dings and dong-dongs to good use and make sure our species don't die out (that, is the main reason for sex, according to a Pri 4 Science textbook).

and isnt sex suppose to release some kind of hormones that will cure us of a whole range of ailments, from headaches to period cramps?

i still think that as long as you do not force the other party into the act, it is permissible. and since i'm not forcing jay into the act...YES, yes, and YES!!

[en_en]

As for Jay's ding-ding. Based on the finger ratio (size to height ratio), I think it's a big ding-ding. I'm not sure if I can explain this clearly. Let's see. If you extend your thumb and index finger into an L, you get his height and size ratio, with the vertical finger indicating the height, and the horizontal finger being the size. Say, the L is upright, with the index finger being vertical, then it shows: tall guy, short ding-ding. Now flip 90 degrees, vertical thumb and horizontal index finger = short guy, big ding-ding. And Jay is a relatively short guy.
:)

Really? haha...I thought the long finger was just from years of playing the piano...

[tigerLily]

OK this might be slightly out of point but I was just wondering you know how he doesn't wear underwear? And you know how at concerts when you change costumes there probably isn't time for you to rush into a nice cubicle to put on the your costumes? Does he like just strip in front of everyone?! Or maybe he just wears underwear for concerts??

[Serendipity]

:offtopic:
Yeah, that's totally out of point... besides, there's another topic in this forum that has discussed that before... you can take a look here (http://www.jay-chou.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1887).
Jay actually wore undies in his concert. You dun suppose he'd bare all, would you?

Qi: Love your theory! I think Jay would love your theory too! :love: [/url]

[Sparkling_Jade]

Qi: my ex-boifriend used to give me that finger ratio stuff (he was kinda short at that time)
i never went that far with him tho, so dunno if that theory really works LOL

[lotus087]

oh wow i've never ever heard of that. I've only heard about big feet. I have NO idea as to the relevance of that either haha. But it's still funny For some reason I can never see myself like sexually with Jay. Tat's just sorta weird. I guess I see sex as a more intimate thing as well. Now if Jay and I were close, then I could throw that all out of the window haha ^_^. Just kidding, I think my boyfriend would mind; I think he's already sick of everyone obsessing over Jay.

[Mike]

wow the finger theory.. hm... id's not correct...

[xsushix04]

hmmm..id definitely sleep with jay chou but maybe its just the hormones of a sixteen year old girl :roll: but looking at the way he plays the pianos and sings his song is just too sexy.

i think since nobody really knows much about his eight girlfriends, they could have each gone out with Jay for like a month or something so really the arguement he is or is not a virgin based upon those facts is very weak

but personally i think Jay as a 24 year old HUMAN...notice i didnt say anything related to teh male species as girls also have needs..is not a virgin. There's a lot we dont know about him, but strip away all the star glamour and glitz and really what u have left is a person who has emotional and physical needs..unless he's so cool he takes his image home with him..but i still prefer to think of him as a hot blooded GOD! :p haha..just my 2 cents

[ShunJing]

I just think that Jay is still a virgin. I doubt that he went far with his girlfriends. Or else why would his songs be so sad? I read from an article saying that he was being used all the time by his lovers and girlfriends. And how no one took him seriously at the time. Somewhere in this forum I read that he had a friend that he liked. He asked her to go to the movies with him. They arrived right in time for the movie when she turned him down just because of the ride he gave her. Then she left him to go out with her friends. He felt so sad, and went to a basketball court by himself in the dark and cried. Sad isn't it? So I just don't think that Jay is all into the sexual needs issue. His girlfriend's relationship didn't last that long, and I guess that he was hoping to really find the one that he likes and then share to have sex as a special moment for them two. I agree that he isn't a horny person who keeps thinking about having sex day and night. Yes and he can control it. I mean he's so sensitive about girlfriends and finding the right person for him to take home to his mom. I'm sure that he really wanted to wait for the right time (possible when he marries) to have sex with his most loved person. Just what I think.

What is with you guys wanting to sleep with Jay? LoL. One night stand . . . be thankful you guys can at least sleep with him! LoL. That would be so weird to be sleeping with him . . .what if reporters were taking pictures of you guys or something? Ugh.

[Mike]

yea makes sense. But what do you mean by ride? what ride?

[ashley]

i think shunjing is referring to the lift , as in jay giving the b*tch a lift in his vehicle to some place, mike.

[xiaoli]

Then she left him to go out with her friends. He felt so sad, and went to a basketball court by himself in the dark and cried.

I find that so sexy! [of JAY!] I mean, it's a turn off if a guy cries cuz he falls over and scrapes his knee or something, but when it comes to matters of the heart, I think it's the opposite :happy:
Wouldn't you love to be there and comfort him? :twisted: hehe

Anyway, I think it's impossible for us to guess whether he's a virgin or not.. however, this IS a very interesting topic..
Cuz on one hand, he's has that shy, sweet guy image who I could believe to be 'saving' himself for marriage.. some people DO.. on the other hand, he's a 24 year old guy which means he most definitely would have those sexual needs, but yeah, of course there are other ways to satisfy those needs.. as someone said before, he plays basketball relieve the sexual urges, or he could just satisfy those needs the normal way? who knows..
But Jay doesn't strike me as the horny, seductive type of guy.. more like the girl would need to make the first moves.

[Bunny]

DOn't u wish someone would just ASK him?? But then the poor guy probably WOULD blush his head off! Lol...

I'd like to think that he's still a virgin... I think abstinince before marriage is romantic, not strange! Plus, if he's a Christian (like me) he would be because of his beliefs.

[kewlpiggy88]

hmm, the only reason why i prolly wouldn't have sex w/ jay is cuz i'm only 15! too young, at least in my opinion. plus, he IS more than 9 years older than me. if i was around 22 or something, my opinion may be diff tho. but for rite now, abstinence!
kewlpiggy88

[Jess]

Well, to reply to the main post.. (I couldn't read every single reply after that, so I'm sorry if this has been said before >_<)

It's highly doubtful that he is still a virgin; I mean, even before he's become famous, I'm sure he's had girlfriends before then. He's not intimately religious, either, so that wouldn't affect it. He also, as mentioned, is famous, so there must be tons of girls that are interested in that kind of thing.

But then again, he seems to me, and to a lot of other people out there, to be the shy, innocent type. He wouldn't lie to his fans, and when he talks about the girlfriends he had; he's not juggling 5 girls at a time, although he would be perfectly capable of getting them. So.. haha, I'm not being helpful at all, I'm just writing about what I think on this. I really can't say of whether or not he's a virgin, and I guess we won't know until he becomes a father ^_^;;

[Sparkling_Jade]

haha im only seeing female posts here, i guess the topic "would u have sex with jay" isnt really for guys anyway....
so i wanna know: GUYS, what do u think about this topic in general?
do u think it´s silly for a girl to want to have sex with jay?
How do u feel about abstinence?

it would be nice to have some male opinions to this topic :)
*giggle*

[Quiet Boy]

yes, i would have sex with jay every night! :excited:

[Chun Li]

I just think that Jay is still a virgin. I doubt that he went far with his girlfriends. Or else why would his songs be so sad?



Maybe he's sad BECAUSE he's gone pretty far with his girlfriends? Your feelings usually become stronger after shared intimacy. Unless to Jay, holding hands is the equivalent of an orgasm. HAHAHA.

*I'm not saying he has. Just 'what if'

[munchi_75]

yes, i would have sex with jay every night! :excited:

LOL....i bet u would! deep deep down inside!

[en_en]

Unless to Jay, holding hands is the equivalent of an orgasm. HAHAHA.


Haha...that just cracks me up. He DOES like to hold hands in all his songs doesn't he?

[Serendipity]

yes, i would have sex with jay every night! :excited:

Awww... finally speaking your mind! Glad you think the same way as us gals... welcome Jie Mei!

[Mike]

lol... ok, let's change the subject. Anyone here have had sex?

[sawmui13]

yes lets change the subject. but lets not go there either

[jayx8318x]

Mike, first you ask us whether we would sleep with Jay, now you ask us who here has had sex.
I know you're a very curious 13 year old boy. But there are some questions you shouldn't ask because they are just plain rude. Anymore immature comments and this topic will be locked and thrown into the abyss.

[Mike]

my bad. Well isn't this topic about Jay AND sex in general... whatever.. I understand...

OK... let's change the subject. um...

[~sugarcookie~]

he's got a point, but i think the question he asked is rather...personal maybe?

[love_jay]

I just think that Jay is still a virgin. I doubt that he went far with his girlfriends. Or else why would his songs be so sad? I read from an article saying that he was being used all the time by his lovers and girlfriends. And how no one took him seriously at the time. Somewhere in this forum I read that he had a friend that he liked. He asked her to go to the movies with him. They arrived right in time for the movie when she turned him down just because of the ride he gave her. Then she left him to go out with her friends. He felt so sad, and went to a basketball court by himself in the dark and cried. Sad isn't it? So I just don't think that Jay is all into the sexual needs issue. His girlfriend's relationship didn't last that long, and I guess that he was hoping to really find the one that he likes and then share to have sex as a special moment for them two. I agree that he isn't a horny person who keeps thinking about having sex day and night. Yes and he can control it. I mean he's so sensitive about girlfriends and finding the right person for him to take home to his mom. I'm sure that he really wanted to wait for the right time (possible when he marries) to have sex with his most loved person. Just what I think.

What is with you guys wanting to sleep with Jay? LoL. One night stand . . . be thankful you guys can at least sleep with him! LoL. That would be so weird to be sleeping with him . . .what if reporters were taking pictures of you guys or something? Ugh.


:worry: um...i like your comment...um?? why? we will intersting about "Jay's private life"??? for me, only Jay still create his song and sing a song for everybody to listen....that is my intersting!!!! :dead: for other thing....i'm not intersting....

[Mike]

Well, Jay's different. I mean he can't be normal. A normal person can't make songs like this. If Jay was normal he would think like everyone else and it wouldn't be interesting. Jay doesnt' even know how to tie his shoes.

But this makes him unique and makes his music so attractive. You hear it and you're hooked to it.

[Jess]

Mike, I get what you're saying, but Jay Chou IS pretty normal. Undoubtedly he has talent, to be able to compose, write, and sing such great songs, and that's what we love him for, but him being normal is what a lot of people like about him. He goes through pain and the hurting of love like the rest of us, and to show that vurnerable side of him, rather covering up and acting as if he were perfectly set with his life (as he's famous and everything), would make me lose a lot of respect for him. So in a way, he IS just like the rest of us, besides the fact that he's so talented.

[cici bebe]

Eh? What do you mean Jay can't even tie his own shoes?

[Jess]

Jay doesnt' even know how to tie his shoes.

Hmm, yeah... what do you mean by that? I'm sure Jay knows how to tie his shoelaces.. ^^;; ?

[sawmui13]

are you referring to that video clip where someone was tying his shoes for him? is that the only basis of you saying that or did he have people tie his shoes for him when you guys were hanging out too

[Mike]

he was wearing shoes with shoelaces but then he bought these shoes that didn't have shoelaces, slipon ones i asked my uncle he said he wasn't sure, but he said maybe. and then i saw the clip... but yea...

and when hanging around with him, he's mroe reserved but i mean he's nice but he's different. I'm not saying he's retarded or stupid. He's smart. But his life BEFORE being famous wasn't what people would call a normal life. So yea... His songs express a lot of his ACTUAL feelings.

[xiaoli]

I'm pretty sure a 24 year old would know how to tie their own shoelaces... i doubt he would make someone else tie them for him every day haha

[GaryDAI]

that would be hilarious if Jay had hired a person to tie his shoes everyday :D

If this were true...

Jay = lazy bum :p

[pennylane]

i downloaded a short segment today of the press conference jay had with tao tzi (the lady that does the Ya Zhou Yu Le Xin Wen show) and she asked him what he thought of *thongs*...and he thought about it and he said it was good...in a really shy-jay sorrta way. anyway, wen i heard that i thought of this thread....hmm...maybe jay isn't so innocent after all!! eheh...he thinks thongs are...good... :o

[Mike]

was he jsut like, "hun how, ah..." or like "Wo hun ai!"... was he really like "OH YEA!" or just "they're um... ok... i guess" ... lol, there's a difference, i'm sure any guy would like thongs... lol

[surveillanceqq]

k well this is replying to da main question.. I think its pretty hard to know if Jay has or hasnt had sex but I definitley don't think he's a one-nite stand kinda guy for sure. He is obviously shy and very passionate.. and I would say Im also a shy and passionate guy :oops: (i write songs too =D ) and id never try to take advantage of a girl in that way.. but if any of his relationships with his 8 gfs has been long, and they were really close, i wouldnt be suprised if they had sex. I mean there is a big big difference between having sex with someone u just met, or someone uve only been with for a few weeks or months, but if its longer and there is some kinda commitment there, then its totally different. And if Jay was in a relationship like that then I wouldnt b suprised if he isnt a virgin. ....Does anyone know how long he was with any of his gf's???

[steiffelephant]

regarding jay's... uh "organs"... one of my guy friends told me that you could tell the size of any guy's thing by the size of his hand. so if jay holds his thumb and his pinky up in a sorta w shape without the middle part, then that should be the size of his ding ding... or is it wee wee? so because he has such big hands, one would assume that he wouldn't have a small package!

[Serendipity]

Does anyone know how long he was with any of his gf's???

I heard non of his 8 gfs lasted more than 3 months...
So what does that tell you from a guy's perspective?

[finenergy]

and when hanging around with him, he's mroe reserved but i mean he's nice but he's different. I'm not saying he's retarded or stupid. He's smart. But his life BEFORE being famous wasn't what people would call a normal life. So yea... His songs express a lot of his ACTUAL feelings.

??????Jay didn lead a normal life?
why why why why why?
aww man....All the stuff like His "girlfriends" maiking use of him
and all is making me sad :(

[munchi_75]

um..about the thong thing..

wat sorta thngs were they referring to? g? or slippers thongs?

and bout the shoelace things...i'm pretty sure Jay can tie his own shoelaces....in the making of the one2free commercial....they do a close up of Jay tying up his shoes [well....attempting to]

[Jess]

regarding jay's... uh "organs"... one of my guy friends told me that you could tell the size of any guy's thing by the size of his hand. so if jay holds his thumb and his pinky up in a sorta w shape without the middle part, then that should be the size of his ding ding... or is it wee wee? so because he has such big hands, one would assume that he wouldn't have a small package!

hahaha, how many synonyms can you think up of that one word?! anyway, i think it's one of those myths. they have this show called the big urban myth show on mtv where they look into rumors and things like that and say if they're true or false, and one of them was like, the size of a guys shoe is the size of his.. um.. member.. yeah... and that was false. they took in 5 guys and checked. ::a little disturbed::

anyway... JAY'S SEX LIFE IS PRIVATE!!! haha, just because he's famous means that we can look into his sex life :-x

actually, i'm curious too. but we'll never find out. unless he publicizes it.

[jayx8318x]

my bad. Well isn't this topic about Jay AND sex in general... whatever.. I understand...

OK... let's change the subject. um...

Well it is, but I thought we would be talking about people's views on sex, how different cultures handle the sex issue, how our schools play a part in this, how our peers view sex. NOT point blank asking people whether they've had sex or not, and how big Jay's penis is.
It's been talked about to death. Is there anything else you all can talk about that's not as offending/private/or stupid? If not, this topic will be locked.

[dudett09]

i went back to timeasia.com to vote for jay as our asian hero a few days ago.

i bumped into this whole section on modern asian thoughts on sex and stuff. i didn't want to read about it in detail but if ne one wants to go check it out for new 'topics' for this thread, be my guest.

[Chun Li]

I think the conversation has died down. I think we've already discussed the social views of sex from the American perspective as well as from some Asian cultures. It's also getting pretty long, so if anyone else wants to discuss the current issues or taboos about sex, it would be nice if someone could start a new topic.

[xiezhi_renfu]

I believe jay's still a virgin now because everyone knows that jay is the perfect target for the paparazzi in taiwan and if he does goes into a hotel with some unknown to satisfy his appetite, the news will be splashed everywhere in the papers by now. And tell me, who will he do it with? Jolin? Ella? That's a bit off yeah? Even if he does, his mom won't let him off haha..

[kasic_fantasy]

i'm very sure that his a virgin too..his too 'dai' and pure to go for one night stand... :D

hmm you guys minds bout the size? man for me i dont even wanna look at it :dry:

[*KawaiiDreamer*]

I'm really not sure if Jay is still a virgin, I hope he still is cuz I don't think its right to have sex for like pleasure only for like having kids when your married

[charmian]

Jay is a virgin?! :crazy: He wouldnt be. For a 25 year old guy, i dun think he's a virgin given his age and he has 8 Gfs. :shifty:

Gah, who knows for sure anyway.

*KawaiiDreamer* - i dun agree with having sex just for kids. You know, married couples does sex for pleasure too. :D

[kasic_fantasy]

Jay is a virgin?! :crazy: He wouldnt be. For a 25 year old guy, i dun think he's a virgin given his age and he has 8 Gfs. :shifty:

Gah, who knows for sure anyway.

*KawaiiDreamer* - i dun agree with having sex just for kids. You know, married couples does sex for pleasure too. :D
but he said before that in those 8 relationships there isnt really much feelings or what...i think what his trying to say is that those are 'puppy love'....

and from his character...i doubt his that kindda person :shifty:

[zrayon]

Yeah. I believe that Jay will only do if he got feelings with that girl. He's not that kind of 'anyhow' guy.

[akane_chou]

erm... havent thought much about this... guys do have urges but Jay's different so he might be a virgin. at least im hoping so... although no one is perfect... so, i guess im sitting on the fence, torn between wanting him to be a virgin or being experienced with *it*. and i think the finger ratio thing works... my bro's friend told me that, gross as it is.

[Muzi]

i'd like to think of him as a virgin, because he looks so shy and quiet... :shy:

[petricia]

Haha.. okay i just found this thread and the posts are hilarious and informative at times...

Anyway, replying to the main topic, Jay... hmmm i guess we'll never find out unless he TELLS it to the world... (which i think... not so possible in foreseeable future) seriously, i can't decide... he looks like a shy guy but who knows? haha... if i have to choose, i'll think he is... :angel:

Abt Mike's question if we would want to have sex with him... if it is a one night stand, well i dun think so... probably traumatised over the fact that it is going to be just one night... if there is a relatioship going on(in my dreams), that seems to lead to marriage... maybe.. :rolleyes:

Hmmm... cultural opinions on sex...
I guess i can only comment a little... abt Japan... haha.. history stuff again!!! :oops: anyway, in fact Japanese had always been a rather non-conservative civilisation abt sex... According to my AMERICIAN lecturer who specialised in Japanese history, he said that even back then (during medival period) people had pre-martial sex and the girls will marry after they were pregnant. According to him, this guaranteed offsprings hence the marriage. Virginity was not really sought after in Japanese culture then. (BTW after stating this he said that hence US is not really responsible for bringing porn and stuff into Japan :dry: ) Even during the Edo-period (about a few hundred years just before American arrival into Japan), it was a period of erotic arts and the whole gesha thingy really came into picture (can't remember if they became really prominent then). So i am not really surprised that Japan after the American Occupation became more 'open' to all these expression through thoughts of democracy and freedom of expressing one's thoughts etc, though it really gotten quite perverted in a sense... :rasp:

Abt Singapore, I think we tends to 'avoid' the issue. I mean they dun ban it on television but i guess it is just in us Asians (esp. those who grew up in Asian countries) to not speak out about it. though i know that homosexuality is not exactly well received in Singapore... this is an area which i think that the govt. seems to be really bend on 'sweeping it under the carpet'... afterall we are a Confucian society... :wink2:

Abt China and its 'practice' of Ignorance is Bliss mentality, i guess it is more of a never wash dirty linen in front of others mentality... they dun want to talk about it as it would probably reflect, from their POV, how badly the govt is run... But in my own opinion, look at the issue as a global problem... it dun happen just in China... Maybe someone ought to tell them that and made them come out of their ostrich mentality.. :whistle:

[jay_lin]

i feel that it is okie if jay is not a virgin.. i mean he is a guy and so i can understand that he has his own urge... what is important is that he is doing "it" with the gal that he has feelings for and not some one night stand whom he cannot even remember how she look like...

it is hard to find a guy who is a virgin nowadays... if he is still one, then he really has a strong will to overcome the temptation and also to control his own urge...

i guess being a virgin or not does not depends on whether you are shy or not... if he has a girlfriend, one thing might lead to another.. so i guess it is the atmosphere at that point of time...

[princess`bobo]

Muzi hahehe ^^ don't you know the saying that the shy and quiet ones are always the most .....frisky?!

hehehe ^^ personally i don't think Jay is still a virgin, and i really don't care....its not like i am bent on having sex with him!

[Muzi]

princess'boboheehee... well maybe that is true... just *wishful*thinking on my part..haa..

[[t]|nGz]

i think tt he's still a virgin.. he's too shy to take e initiative to ask e girl for tt.. n he sae tt he's e conservative type.. he'll probably wait after his marriage n do it..

[clarepeppermist]

Hmm..this is a question I've been debating with myself for a long time too.
Reasons supporting the argument that he's a virgin:
1) He's shy.
2) He don't seems like a "loose" guy, meaning he seems to be one who will exhibit conventional moral restraint in sexual behavior.
3) He did mention that his mum is pretty strict when it comes to bringing girls home for overnight stay. [On a second thought, there's such a thing call hotel & he could stay over at the gal's place :bleh: ]
Reasons supporting the argument that he's not a virgin:
1) He's a guy.
2) He's 25.
3) He has 8 ex girlfriends.
4) He has needs.
Conclusion: I don't think he's a virgin. Face it, he's a 25yr old guy. Itz pretty hard to keep oneself chaste till that age. :oops: I remember in the show Kang Xi Lai Le, Xiao S ask him whether his "first time" was with his first girlfriend & he kinda act blur till the question became too clear to be ignored & he replied with the sentence: " You have to ask Fang Wen Shan" Lolz.

[xinerz]

woah... he's had 8 ex's?! i know i'm not a rabid jay fan, but i'm a jay fan nonetheless, and i did not hear anything about him having 8 ex's.... does anyone know who they all are?

[petricia]

Hmm..this is a question I've been debating with myself for a long time too.
Reasons supporting the argument that he's a virgin:
1) He's shy.
2) He don't seems like a "loose" guy, meaning he seems to be one who will exhibit conventional moral restraint in sexual behavior.
3) He did mention that his mum is pretty strict when it comes to bringing girls home for overnight stay. [On a second thought, there's such a thing call hotel & he could stay over at the gal's place :bleh: ]
Reasons supporting the argument that he's not a virgin:
1) He's a guy.
2) He's 25.
3) He has 8 ex girlfriends.
4) He has needs.
Conclusion: I don't think he's a virgin. Face it, he's a 25yr old guy. Itz pretty hard to keep oneself chaste till that age. :oops: I remember in the show Kang Xi Lai Le, Xiao S ask him whether his "first time" was with his first girlfriend & he kinda act blur till the question became too clear to be ignored & he replied with the sentence: " You have to ask Fang Wen Shan" Lolz.

Haha... :D i remembered that too... Well... it can be either way...
1) He is one and he thinks that it would be either too 'embarrassed' to admit it (like we have been saying he is a 25 year old guy) or inviting troubles admitting to it (imagine the amount of women going after him to claim his first time).

2) He thinks that it is too personal and didn't want to expose to the whole world... I mean, look at the way he talks about his first kiss... How can he talk about his first time without trying to find a hole to bury himself first... :oops:

[zhuangzhi]

I hope he is still virgin. virgin. virgin. virgiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin. Hm.. I will more and more fall in love with him if he is still virgin. His virginity proves his strong personality, doesnt it?

Love,
Zhuang Zhi

[tomiko]

regardless of whether jay is a virgin or not, i'll always regard him with the same amount of admiration and respect. probably because i have rather nonconservative views on sex. i don't disapprove of premarital sex with the person that you love, only of the type where people sleep around and have one night stands. and i don't think jay is the type of person who would involve himself with the latter anyway. he seems like the type to really value love and respects his girlfriends. if he's not a virgin, he most likely only had sex while in relationships with his past ex-gfs.
whether he is actually a virgin or not, i can't really tell. at his age most men these days are probably not virgins, but this is the norm i see in the u.s. i don't know how it is in asia since i've never lived there. as someone stated earlier, his past relationships did not seem to last very long, 3 months or so. i doubt that in this short amount of time jay could have built enough intimacy with these girls to do the deed with them. so i think it's a 50/50 chance that he's a virgin or not.

[HarmonyCloud]

Hmm, I must agree It is kind of hard to tell with some one like Jay. In one sense we all want to believe he's a virgin since after all he's our idol and who one Earth wants to imagine their idol being with someone else. But looking at the facts he is 25 and has had many pervious relationships...

[adorablequrl]

i think he isnt a virgin anymore i mean come on he is like 25 yrs old. BUT i think he isnt those kinda of player tat does one night stand. he prolly does it with the girls tat he really really loves

[shorty vicky]

I don't think hes a virgin niether. Hes bound to have lost it to someone. Lols.

But if he still is one, it'll be my honor to be the one that'll make him loose it. ;D

[bostonbebe]

just entered this discussion for the first time and didn't bother to read much, but i would think it's practically impossible for Jay or any guy at his age to be a virgin. get real here. he's not Saint Jay. ha! i just hope he finds a girl that makes him happy and treats him right, vice versa.

[honeybee]

o ok i just found this thread...quite interesting...

i reckon Jay would have had sex. Probably with Vivian Hsu. For some reason they don't seem to be as close as they used to be...
He's probably had sex with Jolin too, but I REALLY hope not, cos I think Jolin is ugly :oops: *sorry all Jolin fans*

[honeybee]

I wonder if Jolin slept with Jay to get him to help her out...
She probably forced Jay

[eiko]

this is the first time i came to this forum, didnt read much but...LMAO, u guys are sooo funny and nasty at the same time, just kidding lol

[yygall]

hmm...interesting views...
Jay's most likely not a virgin...how else could one explain his 3-hour rendevous wif Patty after the GMA?
He's probably slept wif Jolin too...y else would they be so cold and indifferent towards each other?

[charmian]

you know, you dont have to do just sex in 3 hours.

you can just have a getaway somewhere.

and who knows whats with him and jolin. ><

[yygall]

hmm, maybe.
then again, he is 26, it wouldn't be very likely that he's still a virgin...

[Icon Warrior]

I think that Jay had slept with Jolin before since they were rumoured to be together for about 4 to 5 years... and after their breakup many of their close friends hinted that they were really together... and 4 years together and being a superstar... i think that they had slept together before... afterall men have their needs...

but i thnk that jay is not the type that would just sleep with some girl that he does not know...

i also think that he had not had sex with patty before... i don't think their relationship has reached that staged...

[luvmervyn]

jay is someone who respect women very much(see how he treats her mum n grandma).His mum has actually brought him up into a very well-mannered guy.although he has met alot of pretty girls in those advertisement n mv n etc,he is always very shy towards girls n never take things for granted like taking advantage of those girls like touching them purpotedly.he only do what the director ask him to do,never do "extra" things.u c,he is so famous,it is very easy if he wans to get those advert or mv pretty girls to bed but he never.
i tin his mum must have been always advise him not to have sex out of needs since of course she realise her son after all is a guy.
jay is a guy with high ego n he respect girls who respect themselve,so for sure he wont have sex with vivian hsu cos vivian was an ex-porn celebrity.
for jolin part,mayb in beginnin they dated,but later they broke up cos imposible jay would let his gf to wear so sexy as i said before,he is a man who wants face.
whether they have sex,i tin NO cos jay is someone who always responsible for what he has done,so if he have sex with jolin,most probably he wont break up.dun forget,he is a very conservative guy.

for patty,i dun think they have sex bcos both also very conservative.
but most probably patty is the one jay would want to have sex,she is his dream girl,someone who respect herself,polite,gentle,classic look,fair skin.again,dun forget,jay is a conservative guy,no doubt that he would like such a conservative girl where u hardly see her wearin miniskirt. :brows: But since now jay already 26,so i tin both also understand it is no big deal to have sex.His mum would probably understand that at this age,is no longer young,if lucky enough would probably become a father.
conclusion:jay is still a virgin.
no big deal man in 26 havent have sex,my bro which 27 is still a virgin

[junnleenfaah]

lol.. whats up with all these jay-sex related topics nowadays, you sickos :P haha jk

i really have no idea if he's a virgin or not nor can i make up my mind if he is or isnt. cuz you know, some of the most unlikely people could be the horniest people in the world. like one of my school mates, she's REALLY shy and quiet but when you get to know her, you're just like, omg this girl is freakin' DIRTY, haha :P

so yeah.. he could be. he may not. he's 26, a lot of things happen by the time you're 26, lol

[liwei_jay]

omg..
u guys discussing Jay's sexual prowness??
hmmm.. :hmm:
i really dunno whether he's a virgin or not..
but wouldn't be suprise if he is or not..
(basically all the theories or explainations i wanna do is covered by u guys liao :D)
i mean.. it's none of my business..
and.. i dun care.. :bleh:
hahaha..

[fajitapita]

like above, i havent read thru the entire thread (20 pgs is just way too much)
but alotta ppl are saying he hasnt cos hes shy, but i mean, someone else mentioned he had 8 gfs b4 he was a celebrity! so shy as he claims to be, he still does pretty well w/ the ladies. i doan think he's a virgin. jay's defintiely got game.

but doan worry, i plan on marrying him, so i will find out and let you all know whether or not he was a virgin b4 our wedding nite. :wink2:

[esther]

Although i do hope that jay is still a virgin, :lolabove:... cos it makes him more precious than ever.. But whether he is a virgin or not doesnt really affect me, or does it? :excited:

Unless it affects his music in a bad way, if not, I dun really care whether he is one or not..
But I guess he still is.
His ex-gfs are all short term and i dont really think he's the kind of person who will do it before the relationship has reached a certain status..

:wink2: it is up to each of us to make our wild guesses.. But i dun really think we will ever find out..
unless he's married and we will know for sure that he will do it on the wedding night!

[sakikora]

i reallly doubt he is one... but it is not illegal to dream that he is.... as for geng hong xiao zhu and hei ren... uhm... geng hong doesn't look like one...or act like one...

[cookielmy]

I was thinking about this matter recently , and I would most probaly say that he's not a virgin anymore. C'mon , 21st century and with his age now? It would be kind of sad if he's still a virgin. Well, for my idea of virgins and non-virgins in this world would be 20-80?
If Jay is really not a virgin anymore , I would actually be happy for him for his great achievement. Wondering who was the girl and when happened? *hmm* -curious-

[soon686]

i agree with cookielmy.. i don't think jay is virgin any more too.. and speaking the fact, it is 21st century isn't it?
anyway, whether he is or not.. it doesn't affect us right? he still rox with his music! yeah!

[DragonPrince]

Haha, I doubt that Jay's a virgin by now. Wouldn't Xiao Chu and Hei Ren and Geng Hong tease him like crazy? I bet none of them are. =)


I agree. When he went for the 'Kang Xi Lai Le' interview. He did not say anything when Xiao S asked him if he had done 'that'. He passed the question to Vincent. And Xiao S asked if Jay did it with Vincent. From my point of view, I think his virginity is questionable.

[li-yin]

lol personally.. i don't think he is still a virgin anymore lor.. i mean, he's already 27th.. and there are so many people out there who's tryin to get near him and everything.. so much of temptation..:shifty: but well, i'm sure he wouldn't just simple do it of course.. hehehe

and yeah, i wonder like cookie who would it have been? :brows:

[li-yin]

but if he is one.. lol.. everyone!! go grab pres chou's as*!! :roll: we don't need dogs, the female fans are enough.. :brows:

JK JK nolah.. i wouldn't do that :angel:

[LayRyan]

I agree. When he went for the 'Kang Xi Lai Le' interview. He did not say anything when Xiao S asked him if he had done 'that'. He passed the question to Vincent. And Xiao S asked if Jay did it with Vincent. From my point of view, I think his virginity is questionable.

LOL Xiao S is really 38 :oops: Why she asked tat. Jay's not gay so he wont do it with Vincent lol. I dont think he s virgin anymore, i mean he s 27 and he had many pretty girls. :bleh:

[Singerchick]

Alrightely. Jay is a man. He has needs and desires. I know it's a double standard but it's harder for me to believe that a guy is a virgin at 27 then say if a female star was 27 and still virgin.

The question shouldn't be whether or not he's done it...but with who? :D

[aznjayhunter]

Alrightely. Jay is a man. He has needs and desires. I know it's a double standard but it's harder for me to believe that a guy is a virgin at 27 then say if a female star was 27 and still virgin.
The question shouldn't be whether or not he's done it...but with who? :D

singerchick: lol...patty? very possible since they ARE a couple...its not a rumor or anything like jolin.

[Singerchick]

singerchick: lol...patty? very possible since they ARE a couple...its not a rumor or anything like jolin.

Yeah, I was thinking of that..but it's just so hard imagining Patty getting. ...nasty

[aznjayhunter]

Yeah, I was thinking of that..but it's just so hard imagining Patty getting. ...nasty

lol...shes so innocent and cute looking...but we'll never kno what shes got :shifty:

[zhangpei]

agree!!!!!!!I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT!!!!!!!!!
she's too innocent-looking to be innocent!!!

[chigusa707]

Hahaha.. If I were probably younger Id say Jay is a virgin. But at my age, I doubt that. But it would be nice in a weird way if he is still a virgin.

Means he's saving it for that one special person.

Namely, ME.

*hides from Jay's angry fangirls*

XDD

[Kiwi™]

In my opinion,, i think we shouldn't care if Jay did or didn't do it :whistle:
In artists' world ,, there are many things that we dont know and understand,, to become famous ,, they can do everything they can ,, even making scandals :whistle:
I think u guys can understand it ,,
I'm not talking about our Jay :angel: :wink2: :wacko:
But no matter how he is ,, our love for Jay can never be changed :shy: :shy:

I've heard about Jay's girlfiend ,, er ,, and if they did it ,, It doesn't affect his fame :D :-) and we still luv him
As we luv him sothat we cant' avoid thinking about any private problems relate to Jay 8-) :tomato: :rifle:

[cinnimon~]

i think he still is. he wont give it to any random person though. and i dont believe that he has done it with any of his previous girlfriends

[Cai_Niao]

...even if he did why would he announce it? how do we know he didn't loose his vrginity at like 18 or something? b4 he was famous?... i can't imagine jay saying to the press "HEY EVERYBODY I JUST HAD IT WITH MY GIRLFRIEND!!" but tehn again...

[wanie_jay]

with patty? okey, so, patty does looks innocent. but what if jay did it with hebe?
if he did it with patty, it's considerable since they're both mature.. but hebe is just little kids...

ick, i don't want to picture that....

[Cheyanne]

I'm too old and cynical to believe that he is still a virgin. Plus, the entertainment industry is too complex and filthy for us common people to comprehend.

lol...shes so innocent and cute looking...but we'll never kno what shes got :shifty: Muahaha. You know the saying, still water runs deep.

[liliceprincess]

if he did it with patty, it's considerable since they're both mature.. but hebe is just little kids...

I dont really agree to this statement to a point because hebe truly isnt a kid i mean she is old enough to make her decisions. I think no matter how innocent they look on the outside they might not be in the inside since the public doesnt always see who the true selfs of them are.

I think if you had asked me this a year ago i would be like OMG jay has to be a virgin, but after all this time, my thoughts have changed. i mean ti would not change my perspective of jay. But i think jay and patty did. I mean Patty seems to be so innocent but i think its possible because i mean you think about "Britney spears and justin timberlake" LOL its the thought that comes to mind i thought they were so innocent and then they werent to a point.

So anything is possible

...even if he did why would he announce it?
I agree i mean its not something that he would announce out loud i dont think the public or his company would enjoy hearing that. Personal life is their private life not the public's

[aznjayhunter]

I dont really agree to this statement to a point because hebe truly isnt a kid i mean she is old enough to make her decisions. I think no matter how innocent they look on the outside they might not be in the inside since the public doesnt always see who the true selfs of them are.

I think if you had asked me this a year ago i would be like OMG jay has to be a virgin, but after all this time, my thoughts have changed. i mean ti would not change my perspective of jay. But i think jay and patty did. I mean Patty seems to be so innocent but i think its possible because i mean you think about "Britney spears and justin timberlake" LOL its the thought that comes to mind i thought they were so innocent and then they werent to a point.

wendy: i agree with you 100%. hebe is in fact NOT a little kid.
you may think that she is because she is cute, but she is already 22 years old (i think). we dont kno wat she thinks on the inside. (though JH relationship is just a RUMOR)

i've never believed jay was a virgin :blush:, unless it was a long time ago when jay was younger. but when he came out, he was already 20, i wouldnt be surprised if he wasnt a virgin even then.

[fiionahsz__]

i don't believe jay is a virgin. i agree with aznjayhunter, they may look innocent but you don't know what they'er thinking inside. but i would have sex with jay anyday!

[sam_ho]

That would be funny if he is...i mean for god's sake. He is 27 YEARS OLD!!! Maybe he already DID it with Patty or jolin *ugh, vomit* (trying not to think about him and jolin.)

[haneul]

let the man do what he wants! lol.. and not have us discuss about it =\

[tenshi_dew]

It would be too naive to think Jay was a virgin. He's 27...how many 27 year old men are virgins? He could have had it with his girlfriend before he became famous.

But the thought of Jay and Patty is a bit...ugh....for me.

[King Aaron]

It would be too naive to think Jay was a virgin. He's 27...how many 27 year old men are virgins? He could have had it with his girlfriend before he became famous.
But the thought of Jay and Patty is a bit...ugh....for me.
I didn't realise he's already 27. Somehow he doesn't look 27 to me haha.

Well, I think it's pretty normal to assume that he has done it. I mean we don't look at people's appearance and judge if they've done the deed or not, right? And I do believe a lot more Asians are having sex before marriage as well. My opinion is that he has done it and it doesn't even have to be with Jolin, Patty or Hebe. :glug:

[R A I N B O W x3]

he is a 28 year old man even though he doesnt look like it. he probably had it already and the lucky girls kept their mouth shut cause they want to come back for more. im pretty sure had some cause everybody wants it :D

[joce]

hahaha... :D
i have ever think about this before...
although he look innocent but a man in his last 20 and really a famous one maybe not virgin again :angel:
however a man is still a man right... :happy:

[Jay is coolest]

I don't think Jay's a virgin... though I secretly hopes that I'm wrong.

Age doesn't have anything to do with virginity. If he is a true Christian, he will not have sex before marriage. No ifs or buts. I know of many people, including myself who are Jay's age and still virgin because sex is for marriage only.

We're well educated, hot and live in western society. The only thing is, we're professionals and Jay's in the Music Industry... I'm sure the girls are more slutty, so he'll get a LOT of temptation.

[razor911]

hmmm first of all jay is not christian yet -.-.. havent* soon probably.

next is WAT KIDN OF TOPIC IS DIS OMG>..

=x ... ne ways WE HAVE TO BELIVE IN JAY!!! LOL

hmm but u never know . =]

[shadowcats2]

Am I the only one who finds this topic hilarious? This discussion was started like "4 years ago"!! LOL
I would seriously doubt Jay isn't an ordinary guy. He is almost 30 years old, for goodness sake!! How many 30 year old guys haven't been sexually active? I do believe that despite his popularity, that he may still be a little reserved around women. He projects a clean image...no drugs or drinking. But then I remember reading that his father was alcoholic and abusive? If so, then it is easier to understand Jay. I understand this kind of pain all too well. It changes the way you think about many things.

[illuminati]

He's nearing 30, and a popular and good-looking artist, so I'm sure he's had his fair share of love. :P Nevertheless,
it seems like Jay is doing a much better job of keeping his personal life private and taking more precautions, unlike Edison. I'm not saying what Edison did was wrong either, just that he should have been more careful.

[jay_is_cute]

actually i hope that jay is NOT a virgin hahaha...i mean he is almost 30 years old. if jay is like the next guy, he's probably been with a couple of girls. i assume girls probably throw themselves at him left and right, and i'm sure it'd be hard to resist all of them. besides, he's had several (?) relationships already, so it would make sense that he's had sex.

yeah, this topic is pretty old, i remember reading through this whole thread a couple of years ago but not replying. five years ago, his image was a lot more shy and innocent than it is now, so this topic does kinda make sense in that context. i don't think anyone honestly thinks he's still a virgin now.

[alisadorsey@yahoo.co]

To me if Jay were a virgin that would not be a problem for me accepting his being 30 yrs old. I would think very highly of him, respect him for saving his treasure for his future wife. He would also just be a guy who would not have such a long list of sexual experiences that he has to explain to his future wife.

Being that I do not believe that he is a virgin, from his being up, close, and personal with his past girlfriends, I hardly believe that he is a virgin. Some people just are not sexually active like most, even older ones.

[Foolish_Devil]

i'm finally free from the newbies sanctuary :-)

lol, can't believe this is the first thread i went to...
yeah, i'm pretty sure a few girls got lay by jay :rolleyes:
OMG, this thread is too dirty............ *exit*

[Shirlz]

Haha Chong! Me too :P
I think he isn't a Virgin, i mean come on! Hes nearly 30!
But theres nothing wrong with being a vigriin at 30.. hehe

[Foolish_Devil]

shirlz: lol, yeah. like what others have mention, pretty sure tons of girls have thrown themselves at jay. when i think about it, it is pretty sad if he is still a virgin. haha pretty sure his hormones are going crazy.

[xiao|mei]

Why would it be sad?

So maybe Jay has enough self control and respect for his body to not indulge in the pleasures of the flesh.

I'm not THAT naive to think that he is...but still...I would have nothing but the utmost respect for him if he was. =)

[Foolish_Devil]

^lol, i was thinking of something while typing something else too. i was trying to say that men are kinda different from women. they have to have relieve, and its kinda hard sometime for them to resist later on life. nowadays, doctor prescribe porno for man's personal needs.
i have a friend who is shy and quit like jay. one day, we were playing video games in his room and i was flipping through his magazines and i found porn magazines hidden below. :glug:

so, i'm guessing one or the other. hahahaha

*i swear, last time posting here.*

[Shirlz]

Haha... Chong, you making yourself look addicted to this thread here :P Not a good start. Anyways..
Im pretty sure Jay was a rebel when he was young :P