View Full Version : English Album: Should Jay Make One?
weiling
05-27-2004, 08:47 AM
as Many artist (not only from Asia) try to "go International" by making an english Album (like Utada HIKaru), I still wonder if Alfa music try to do so for Jay. Maybe Jay itself still does not think about that. But one day this idea may will come up.
I personally do not agree if jay for now makes an english album. What we have here, shows that Jay who is originally -not an English speaking person- can create "hot conversations" among us who use English. So what do you think guys?
cowboy
05-27-2004, 08:55 AM
Bottom line is that if Jay ever expects to win international prestige as an artist (meaning popularity in the mainstream US music scene) then he needs some English songs. Of course, I suppose a serious duet effort with a English speaking artist would help do the trick too. Does Jay NEED to do this? No, he is already extremely popular and rich, but if he wants more then English is the next step. I hate to admitt it, but my countrymen all seem to despise music that isn't sung in English. Crazy when most of our pop music has the most ridiculous and hard to understand lyrics ever.
vunsin
05-27-2004, 09:09 AM
Jay + album = music
Music/Concert Discussion forum: "Discussion about Jay's DIAO musical talents, his albums/songs, his upcoming concerts, live or tv appearances, and his music videos"
Music -> Music/Concert Discussion forum
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ker_ai_teresa
05-27-2004, 09:12 AM
no.
Jay wouldn't want to do it (from what i've read in the past). he even said so himself that if he ever won a grammy, he'd proudly use mando to give his acceptance speech. i've gathered that he isn't too excited about learning english and doesn't see the need.
so i'd say that if he were to go international one day, he'd just promote his current songs and albums as they are.
personally i wouldn't want to see jay do an english album. as much as i love his music, i don't have the confidence that he'll do well in the english market. asians don't seem to thrive well in the english music industry, so why waste time?
i'd rather he use his time to concentrate on his mando albums.
Vicluva
05-27-2004, 09:31 AM
he should only make one if he's exceptionally good at english! there's no point of him making a crappy album with bad pronunciation (and gr8 music, since it's jay) and blemish his perfect record of perfect songs. still, i say stick to mandarin my dear jay! :wink2:
ultimatehandlez
05-27-2004, 09:32 AM
Jay..English? I don't think it will work out, well, his english is not good and, English music has a different style compared to chinese ones, I don't think the Western people might like it. But if there is an English album,it's gunna be cool
aznbballer
05-27-2004, 09:52 AM
i personally think that it is not neceassary of him to make an english, coz 1, he doesn't no english, and 2 no asian has really gone that far singing english music. It could ruin him. Coco lee and utada hikaru are the only ones that r sought of known in the western world for sining an english song.
xiaoli
05-27-2004, 10:27 AM
uh.. no NO and NO!
As much as I love Jay, if he ever made an English album... that would be ridiculous beyond words. I mean, why try to sing in English, when YOU CAN'T?!? Sure, a singing a song in English for fun would just be cute.. but making a whole album?! Westerners wouldn't appreciate him, they'd laugh at him!
sweep
05-27-2004, 10:45 AM
Jay should make an English album. But he has to practice speaking English first so he does not sound funny. It would be great if he will make an English album so that I will directly understand what he's saying. He will gain a larger audience too if he has an English album.
nunchakus
05-27-2004, 10:57 AM
I think at this time, he isn't ready for a full English album. This is because his English is still not so good. Hence, it would be quite stressful for him since he would be expected to give interviews in English (if he manages to get the attention of the English-speaking media and fans). However, I do think that it'd be so so cool if he could have one or two English songs in his new album. I think it would be so sexy (haha, don't ask why...)
Of course, in time, if he does release an English album, it would be soooooo wonderful! This would not only garner him more fans, it would also bring him more international attention. He would be the pride of Asia and of the Chinese!!
cpopbaby19
05-27-2004, 01:51 PM
umm.. i think no..
i think he can't do it internationally and he isn't kinda good in english right? well.. i think before going in international industry, i thnk jay should undergo an english class! :laughing: *imagines my dear jay* :)
of course no!! first, he dosn't know how to speak and english and he can be popular with his chinese album and their are a lot of chinese all over the world so no need to do one.
stargirl
05-27-2004, 06:53 PM
i dont think the westerners would laugh at him. Im a westerner and i worship him... but if he were to release his chinese songs into western countries they would laugh. They arent open minded enough to accept anything thats not in their own language. If he did english i would hate it tho! Its not him! and i can see it now... years ago i told my friends about this really cool guy with the english name Jay Chou and they laughed... than all of a sudden he realeases and english album and it's all 'your not cool unless you like jay leise' I FREAKING LIKED HIM YEARS AGO! and i think i would lose a bit of respect for him to be honest i could gain some but unless he still managed to be really asian i would hate him trying to be westerner. But i would still support him! Just dont think english i his thing is all!
jakinni
05-27-2004, 07:05 PM
I think it would be even greater if he could make it internationally with only his Chinese language albums, otherwise it would seem like he's trying too hard. That way it'll truly show that his talents are in his music and it can cross language barriers. It's not like other artists who are English then release like Spanish albums or whatever, English is not his native language or any part of his background, so what's the point? I doubt he could master English well enough anyway. And even if he did, it'd be hard to retain his Asianness that he always tries to in his music in English, it would seem like a sellout to me.
Even if he did do an English album, Westerners don't seem to take well to artists not originally English speaking. And since there's no major Asian artists in the western market, it would be even harder. If the album doesn't do well, he may lose the respect of some of his original fans and it's just embarrassing because he's done so well so far.
xJayChoux
05-27-2004, 07:43 PM
hmm...im not sure about this. i mean Jays English isnt good, hes already popular in Asia (hes rich)...:worry: i dont think he needs to make an English album. even if he did, i dont think it would be such a hit with winning awards...of course, the Jay fans would buy it to listen...im not sure about the western people tho. look at William Hung...:oops: (NO OFFENSE TO WH FANS! X_X)
but sure, i think with Jays English level it takes alot of courage to record an English album to release. :sweat:
the one
05-27-2004, 10:32 PM
imo, leave jay to his singing in mandarin (and a bit of taiwanese?). that's the main factor that makes him stand out from everyone else. jay is already famous enough in the west, i think....... he's had several concerts in several states in the u.s., isn't it so? so why need an english album when jay has pure taiwanese pride? he didn't grow up in america like david tao or wang lee hom did.. so you can't compare make jay sing in english since he has never had any professional tutoring in it.
in conclusion, i don't think he needs an english album. it would make him less authentic.
princess_xixi
05-27-2004, 11:04 PM
oh
yeah he will be soooooo love in england!!!!
jay is sooooooo adorable
he should definately make one
i mean neary all twainese know englsh
now
i mean he should come to england and make an album here
really!!
:dry: i'm quite hesitant of him making an album in english. like the one said, he is authentic and producing an album in english would just ruin it. what is so special about jay is his asian pride, his mandarin and taiwanese rapping. that is what makes him so special. his english is not good at all compared to david tao and lee hom... in conclusion, no, jay should NOT sing an english album, the path he is taking is awesome already!
squirtle23
05-28-2004, 12:19 AM
no way in h** jay's gonna do an english album by himself!!! Chinese ppl are everywhere around the world... surely all of them know who jay is. He could win the award for best international artist with his current status... i get a feeling that even westerners find his music very compelling. I wonder 'what if' and i say 'what if'... jay composes (not writes) songs for western artises eg. usher or even that chinese american hip-hop artist name Jin..... would be interesting though.. but i doubt they could keep up with his blur and fast rapping style =P which is so damn diao!!! Jay... produce more songs in hokkien (taiwanese languange)!!!!!
Nuh Uh! Nuh uh! No, personally, I think that Jay has great talent and popularity as it is already. If his record company want him to release an english album, no, that will be a big flop to his career and money *cough cough, look at Coco lee.... *sarcasm* what a big success your english album has been!*
What the heck? he doens't even speak ENGLISH in the first place.... in America, most artists find themselves in the situation that if they don't conform to what's consider popular and "hip", it breaks their career. Seriously, American Idol is the closest thing that you see normal looking people who weigh over 100 pounds to actually gain stardom and fame base on their talents.
And Jay has his own "thing" that will really clash against westerner's genre/type of music because asian music and westerner's music are different (how its sung, how its played and composed)..... so Jay.... NO! We love you the way you are!
bethie_me
05-29-2004, 09:01 AM
It'll be SO WEIRD if Jay make an English album! I don't think he ever will. He'll be way too busy if he did an eng album too! I think he already won the hearts of many people over the world. ^_^ I think he should just stay with chinese music.
Melvin
05-29-2004, 09:13 AM
No way I would like having Jay mumbling around in some english song... that would be like so stupid.. but then again maybe its quite cool if he puts the right touch to it.
ekyec
05-29-2004, 12:36 PM
no, i don't want jay to make an english album. the furthest i'd want him to go is to do a duet with someone who sings in english but that would probably only be for 1-2 songs, i don't want him to be doin like 10 million duos with all this english in it, coz i don't really think it'll sound all that good, coz even if jay learns english, he'll never be able to get the accents right anyway. n i personally dont like weirded up grammar n accents when non proper english speaking singers sing in english.
n i think a singer should jus concentrate on what they do best, n singing in a language they are comfortable in. no point singing some other language, jus to get into the US market, coz if he craps it up, he'd probably create a bad name in their eyes anyway.
n i like how jay's jus fully chinese, n not anything else, n it should stay that way. n plus, i remember jay saying he wants to win the grammys, as it means that his opened the world to chinese music. so whats the point of him singing in english then?
friends_pt
05-29-2004, 04:00 PM
First of all, i personally don think Jay will make an english album cos he is a very chinese person... I believe he would strongly object to the idea of having an english album since he had always want to promote chinese culture n songs. Jus like his goal of using his music to spread to the world as a recognition of chinese. next, Jay english is... not very good... n it won't be his style if he sing english songs. it's seriously not his style...
i don't think he'll sound good in eng....he can't speak eng fluently.....if he really did an english album, pple will only criticise on his eng and not admire his music.....sticking to chinese albums would be better.....
charmed_1009
06-11-2004, 08:37 AM
Agreed!
Jay would never make an english album...he said that he wants to be famous by Chinese music..He wants the world to listen to Mandarin music......so inspiring.....Go jay!
Hmm...wonder why they never give jay the MTV ASIA AWARDS for Most Inspiration Artist...???
tortilla_chips
06-11-2004, 10:08 AM
nope. most singers who try to go 'bilingual' in their albums usually end up losing most of their fans. he might concentrate more on his english album, and make his chinese-speaking fans feel left out and vice versa. besides, he cant speak, and he's not a caucasian, so it's gonna be very difficult for him to make it big in the us or any other western countries.
raerei
06-11-2004, 01:22 PM
Yes!! Everyone in the US should hear this guy. He's awesome and I think he could be out some artists here.
petricia
06-14-2004, 10:17 AM
i am one of those who are against the idea of him making an english album... i would faint if i hear him singing bad pronunciation... I guess it would mean more to Jay and all the Chinese if he could make it into the Grammy's with a Chinese album..
w4t3r_lily
06-17-2004, 07:33 AM
To be honest..i really really hope that he won't do that..cos we all know that he is really really need to learn English more. I just can't imagine what the song will be if he raps in English..gosh..but if he learn and practising English more often and have a better pronunciation than right now..maybe it will be end up good for the album. But my suggestions..just let him sing in Chinese ok? better that way..:happy:
fish7
06-17-2004, 12:21 PM
no...jay and english dont go together...
i really dont like him to be westernized because im really really proud that he's asian and he makes good music! i wouldn't want to add western influence to him....
i like him the way he is and he's already popular even if he doesn't sing in english
i know that in a way it would be promotion and even be a plus factor for his career but i want chinese music to be popular the way it is. without western influence.
Jay can also be the talented version of Williom Hung if he ever releases an english album. Its all about the music and if Americans can understand, "you, her, me, love, tears, goodbyes, hate".......... then jay is set for an english album. Look at William Hung :rolleyes:
~J 4 JAY~
07-05-2004, 08:14 AM
i dun think it can work! jay dunno english so he cant sing it very well! moreover, jay no need to sing english song ,as to be an international singer.if the Western also like jay thru his chinese songs,i will say it is brings more success and proud!!
archimedes
07-05-2004, 11:41 AM
jay with english? hmmm...i dunno. i think not. his rap ability maybe work with english but i can never imagine he rapping with english...beside western rap is quite different with jay's style...
I think he want to 'go international' but he don't want to make an english album.
And if you ask me, I agree with Jay. I don't think that you must make an english album if you want to Go International. I love Jay's song even I can not understand the translation. It doesn't matter what lanquage but it about your talent and your power.
and the last reason I don't think Jay will love to study english Ha Ha :bleh:
SHANGHAi
07-09-2004, 10:37 AM
The U.S. is rather really exclusive and picky with music for some reason... we RARELY hear about international artists unless you like, purposely seek them out or something. Hmm... how good is Jay's english even?
czavender
07-11-2004, 05:34 AM
if he already masters his english..hmm.. why not?.. as for me who can't understand mandarin..i'm just curiuos..
i just wanna hear him sing in english..i hope one day he'll sing "burn" by usher for me.. :rolleyes:
Na... i don't think he should! Jay seemed more comfortable in singing Chinese songs! I really can't imagine how Jay will sound if he sings english songs.
Even if he does sing, i think most of the tunes and lyrics won't be written by him! So it would be a waste of his composing talent! He would then be like other singers who take songs from others to sing!
djlmk
07-29-2004, 04:21 AM
If jay were ever to be involved in english music, the only way I would see it is probably for production. He can skillfully create catchy songs (basically what american music runs on). But him singing english song is not right. As many people said, I dont think he is meant for english singing...
amdawn
07-29-2004, 04:40 AM
i say that he stays and strengthens is music in chinese instead of foraying into the english language. if people are interested in his music, they'll learn the chinese to understand and appreciate it. besides english music is hard to master; success is more than those sappy lyrics ' i love you', ' i think of you all the time', ' i can't live without you'. if jay can translate the poetry of fan wei san's lyrics into english beauty, by all means, go for it. otherwise, he will be hardpressed to find an audience if his english pronuciation is lacking in clarity. I think success of artists is in their ability to secure an individual voice in their music. He has that in Chinese. He may not have that in English.
RoYaL
07-30-2004, 10:42 AM
~HmMm I dun think Jay will cut a english album.. unless he is good in speaking english.. If really there is an eng album of his.. Well, he will be more popular in other countries.. including asia!! :)
i think he won't do that,. just to go into international,
he said b4, he want weastern ppl know his music in chinese style... his own style which cannot been change...
kirasuran
07-30-2004, 10:57 AM
well u know i reckon it would be really great if he could do a whole album in english, not jus cos that means i will be able to understand it, but also cos the western market is pretty big as well as the fact that he could sing in his style, in english. simple.i hope it is anyway. i compose poems but i reckon its pretty hard to change to chinese.
powerlessangel
07-31-2004, 12:06 PM
i don't think jay should make an english album.....firstly his english is not enough for him to sing in english....it might take years to get the accent right. Secondly, i feel that language does a play in music as in to say, for example i prefer david tao singing in chinese because i feel like that is where his true soul comes out.......
chizzu
07-31-2004, 02:20 PM
English album? his english is not fluent. so i guess it will take some time or maybe he shouldnt make one. maybe a japanese song for his upcominh movie intial D?
danielle86
07-31-2004, 02:32 PM
i think he should try at least one song like 5566..
well although his english not really good.. maybe he can learn..
as he wanted his music to enter to western country..
hmm..
Dita511
07-31-2004, 04:07 PM
I think that there is no need for Jay to do and English album; like ppl have already said - he is extremely rich & has all the popularity he could want. If he would really love to do an English album (although I hear his English isn't too great yet), then that's fine - but there's no real need. The Western music industry is nothing that special (I'm allowed to say that because I'm Australian LOL :tongue: :angel: )
i think that he should attempt to do it because it would be interesting to see what western people think of his music. :)
bluesnowflakes
08-01-2004, 03:25 PM
NOOOO!!!!!
Dat wouldn't make him special animore......
He singing English would spoil everything......
reasons why he should:
- 'cos everyone speaks english.
- ppl who want to go international do that
- that's the best way to get foreign people to notice him
- 'cos if they don't understand what he's singing, they're just gonna reject it first.
reasons why he shouldn't (or won't):
- he has said himself that his english is really bad
- he is very shy and he even gets shy saying a few english words, let alone perform in english
- he's also said that his dream is to perform at the grammy awards one of his own songs in CHINESE.
supersk
08-03-2004, 05:17 AM
only if he can become fluent. otherwise it might be awful if he stumbles through it. poor english is not "dao". not dao at all.
mad_doi
08-03-2004, 05:29 AM
mayb he could write songs for english artists first.
his english singing i dunno. thats a scary thought seeing how most asian ppl who sing in english sound. he could possibly try once hes fluent and most important articulate in english. but even then his popularity would be hard to determine. crossover artists trying to enter the english scene hardly get ne airtime.
Dong Feng Puo
08-03-2004, 07:51 AM
i love jay's music, but i still don't think he should put out an english album. 1) his english isn't good enough. 2) there is clearly a market for western artists in asia, but not really a market for asian artists in the western hemisphere. if he wants to be the first asian musician to break into the western hempisphere WITH success, he's gonna have to give up a lot of his career development in asia. probably not worth it. 3) artists who usually make it international (michael jackson, madonna, justin timberlake, etc.) are bolder; jay seems too shy. i think jay should focus on his music career in asia. perhaps us fans can help his CHINESE music become international by introducing it to our non-chinese friends, since we're all over the world. =)
petricia
08-04-2004, 03:20 PM
NO!!!! Pls dun~~
:please: Unless your english is good enough... Personally, i feel that many singers have kinda... bad pronounciation and slang.. and their english songs are.... :crazy:
so.. Jay.. plz dun try that... Moreover.. i truly believe that Chinese songs will eventually have a place on the international stage... not necessary english songs...
tvbaddict
08-04-2004, 03:48 PM
yeah..PLEASE NO. jay is excellent with mando albums, but i dont think english albums are fit for him.
kilaalaa
08-04-2004, 08:42 PM
Maybe I'm being selfish, but I think Jay should not and I think he will not want to release an english album.
Its like you don't ever see US/UK stars singing in other languages to break into other markets.
Quite a few people in Taiwan listen to non-chinese music too in comparison to the percentage of Americans who listen to like say Asian music.
Why should Asian singers sing in English when we do not expect US/UK singers to sing in Chinese/Japanese/Korean? It seems a bit weird.
Their loss I guess for not discovering Jay Chou. Ha
MichelleW
08-04-2004, 11:17 PM
Well i really don't know. I think in a way it would be awesome for him to release an english album. But at the same time i feel that he shouldn't. Besides, people in america are already buying his albums and they aren't even in english. But if he ever decides to make an english album i would be first in line to buy it!
HaNaBi
08-05-2004, 04:11 AM
Well, If jay gets better at English he might release one. But I think that Jay at the current moment he want people to know him through the music he make, with or without an english song. But if people around the world are able to recognise him without a single song in their language then I think Jay has reached his dream of being the great Musician he has always wanted to be.
kamui
08-05-2004, 04:22 AM
it'd be awesome if jay could make an english album.....as long as it doesn't have artificial, fake, annoying, sterotypical lyrics in it. if he's gonna go international, i'd hope that he'd stick with his style, his awesome lyrics, and his melodies and beats. some ppl who sing in english (tension comes to mind.. i like them, but i just hate songs and artists that have random phrases of english in them) sing horribly and their lyrics don't even make any sense, and i would HATE for jay to become like that.
i've listened to utada hikaru's new stuff, and its not nearly as good as anything she had in japanese. her new song, (forget the title, but has timbaland and kiley dean in it) is awful, and even tho she's really famous and all that shiz in japan, i don't think she's gonna do very well in america.
bottom line is, i'd rather jay stick to his beautiful, poetic lyrics in chinese, than hear him sing in butchered english about things that every other artist has already made a song about.
and i totally agree with everything kilaalaa said ^_^
jayz_girl
08-05-2004, 12:22 PM
heheh i once thought the same thing for my self... and as we all know.. english isnt Jays first language.. so would the songs be as nice or meaningful??.... hmMMM but i think its a good idea.. it'd help him becomre more international
Q^Guy
08-05-2004, 05:00 PM
Hmmz.. Its a v.fresh idea ya.. Maybe Jay could consider adding 1 or 2 english songs in his next album.. Anyway, I seem 2 have read from somewhere that Jay has an album in Thai b4.. ....?
jjasonn
08-05-2004, 05:29 PM
english.. yea.... jay should start his english song to attack the english market.... jay zhou go...
chouz
08-06-2004, 09:18 PM
I think he doesn't like English
so it's not neccessary to do that
creAtive
08-07-2004, 04:54 AM
i not so sure bout an english album .......... but i guess chinese one is more familiar to him and i dun think his english is that fluent ........ his chinese sounds so much better or should i say soooooooo cool.hehe :) maybe for a start he can include sum english songs ....... anyways i still support him . :bleh:
shiniobi
08-07-2004, 11:14 AM
i would not strongly disagree however i hope he would not do that. anyway, i think he wouldnt since he is so "chinese" =)
Jay1988
08-07-2004, 06:06 PM
i dont think so ...
when i saw jay taking award { i dunno what award but all speaking english include chinese artist }
but jay just the person who speack chinese ..
while jay in highschool
jay is not very good in study ...
so i dont think jay will make any album in english ..
i think Chinese version isenough ... enough to make the whole world saying JAY
wkhwa
08-15-2004, 05:50 AM
ya I agree... he can hardly speak english.... even if he memorize all the pronounciation in his eng album he'll face difficulties when he speaks to others.... I prefer him 2 stick with chinese....
mliza
08-23-2004, 02:17 AM
i think he should consider making one if he's comfortable singing in english. this will give him a chance to reach out to more audiences.
it'll be cooler though if the west would just accept his music as it is.. in mandarin.
LPx31
08-23-2004, 02:28 AM
Well, it would be hard for him though. He can barely understand the language. I think that if he learned and understood the language, then yeah, he should. But he doesn't, so he should stick to what he does best.
KillerSmurf
08-23-2004, 03:29 AM
Hmmz.. Its a v.fresh idea ya.. Maybe Jay could consider adding 1 or 2 english songs in his next album.. Anyway, I seem 2 have read from somewhere that Jay has an album in Thai b4.. ....?
he barely knows how to say Happy Birthday in Engrish, and your thinking he'll make 10 + tracks in english. nutsz0rs :wacko:
Nigtasca
08-23-2004, 03:42 AM
I for one disagree with him making an english album. I don't want to be a jerk or anything, but his english isn't yet fluent to me. Also the way he's lyrics are made, is very different from english lyrics. I think he'd have to make a new style of singing, because his lyrics are kind of in a poetic form to me. Well it's just me, if anyone else has second thoughts, thats your opinion.
jh_013
08-24-2004, 06:26 AM
like they all said, jay's english isn't that great. and i for one am reeeaaally tired of hearing asian artists attempt songs in english with . . . less than great results. and jay's not even close to as good at english as those artists with english songs. so, hopefully, jay won't do it.
and for me at least, part of jay's appeal is how he doesn't try to cop western styles just to get popular (e.g. singing in english). a lot of asian artists try to imitate western music because the asian audience loves it. that music usually ends up as just, well, bad western imitations. jay however doesn't do anything like that. when he applies western styles, he does it in a way that integrates it with his own style of music. it's new and different -- which is what i bet jay strives for.
also if any of you have heard boa do her song "my name" in chinese, you might understand where i'm coming from . . . her chinese is actually WORSE than her english!
13abygirl
10-03-2004, 12:43 AM
well i would support him & buy da cd if he did make an english album, but i gues he needs 2 learn enligsh first...
like the others said, um, jay's english isn't that fluent yet. and i don't think that jay needs to release an english album. i mean he's a great songwriter and artist already and he's got loads of fans, not only here in asia but also in other parts of the world. he doesn't need english songs to make him more popular. he already is!!!! :)
xiao_dk
10-10-2004, 09:35 AM
like the others said, um, jay's english isn't that fluent yet. and i don't think that jay needs to release an english album. i mean he's a great songwriter and artist already and he's got loads of fans, not only here in asia but also in other parts of the world. he doesn't need english songs to make him more popular. he already is!!!! :)
yes!.. i totally agree...he doesn't need to make english songs to make him more popular....and if he makes english songs....what's going to happen to Vincent Fang?! :dry:
haha.....and the reason for Jay's songs being so great is partly because of the DIAO lyrics...if Jay's english isn't good enough....i don't think the song will turn out well with meanings.....
zaizai rox
11-08-2004, 12:40 AM
i don;t really mind but i don;t think he needs to make one. i mean yea he;s a great singer already so he doesn;t need to make one in english or anything. i mean maybe once he;s more fluent yes but fr now i donlt think he should make one and yea alot of things expressed in chinese songss differently/funny in english.
ClicketyClam
11-08-2004, 12:46 AM
i totally do NOT think that jay should make a english album. i don't know how great his english is, and if it isn't that great, then i don't think his songs will be quite so good. also i think that alot of artists try to make english songs to become more popular, but really. . . jay doesn't need to do that, everybody loves him already! and if he makes an english album, it just won't be the same jay that we have come to love, it will be a jay that is trying to imitate somebody.
and if he makes an english album. . . where is he going to add diao bu diao?? LOL
akane_chou
11-08-2004, 05:07 PM
i'm saying no. his english isnt dat fluent. i would support him but seriously, he'd put Vincent out of his job... and besides, it'll sound weird and so... copied. his mandarin is good, his songs are good in mandarin. so stick to mandarin. he's not in d money anyway...right?
*KawaiiDreamer*
11-09-2004, 06:56 AM
I for one say no because his english is really bad and if he makes an english album, the songs will sound pretty weird with his bad english.
snowflake
11-09-2004, 07:04 AM
Answer is no! Let him stick to whatever language that he is good at..
sockssmellgood
11-09-2004, 08:19 AM
i don't think it is a good idea, since he always emphasises that we should promote Chinese music, thus he should not jump ship and head for possibly more money and such, and betray his principle.
=)
If he will to sing English songs.. it would take time to learn it ..He is so good in Chinese alreadi(very diao) let him stick to it (:
snowflakez
11-09-2004, 04:42 PM
i dun tink jay shld make an eng album. he shld remain as wad he is and tt's wad we(his fans) are proud of. isnt it? i see no need for him to produce an eng album. there are pple hu dunno chi yet listen to his album so there is no need to produce an eng album to reach out to those hu doesn't noe chi..
swtaznkandi
11-09-2004, 06:10 PM
i think he should only do one if he can speak/sing in english WELL. when people who can't speak english do english songs the result is almost always horrific. if he does speak english very well, then sure, he can go for it. i don't think that would necessarily change anything though. there are hardly any asians in the american entertainment business, and most of them are in there only for their kung-fu skills (jackie chan, jet li, zhang ziyi, etc). lucy liu and kelly hu may be exceptions, but i think it would be very difficult for jay to gain popularity in the US.
Nikky
11-09-2004, 08:00 PM
Jay doesn't even know english, so there really is no reason for it. & it's not like he has to know english to get by or nething. So, really in my opinion, there is no reason for him to learn to english, it has absolutely no play in his life. He's doing absolutely fine with out knowing it and with out singing it.
ftlouiea
11-09-2004, 08:47 PM
Yeah ^ And since Jay isn't trying to break into US etc, he has no need to. If Caucasian people are so interested in Jay, I think they listen to his mandarin songs anyway, as i know many do. If Jay was to make an English album, I think I would have to kill him, so he doesn't kill my perfect vision of him and his singing. Kill, i meant literally. :-)
jtayk
11-10-2004, 08:29 AM
NO. I like Jay to be himself. He is Chinese and good at writing songs in Chinese and the music style suits them all perfectly well. He is so famous and successful singing his mother tongue language already. I hate to see Jay doing something against his nature. He can hardly speak English, now he will struggle to sing. He can be famous and internationally known singing in Chinese and I am sure he will.
*meow
11-12-2004, 11:48 AM
yeah i don't think he has a need to sing in chinese. the non-chinese speaking people already like him now. besides, it's the chinese culture that the english/caucasians like. so why make jay sing in english? anyway, he won't wanna sing in english too, given his attitude. jay's doing very well now... so i don't think he should make an English album because the current jay is who we all like, and not some person who goes against his style just for money...
nycgirls
11-12-2004, 08:01 PM
I will not listen to Jay's English debute unless it's him whose writing the lyrics...
and I don't appreciate the general American audiences' tastes nowadays, and I know they are gonna to ruin it for sure! Look at what they did to :beep:... :-P
I don't think so after I've watched the programme he went at wan quan yu le whereby they are having a game about a few simple english words.
But if he's determined, then I would advise that he brush his english first.
Whatever that is, I really disagree to an english album.
He doing well in the Chinese industry... He might as well continue with it....
Lord_JiNFu
11-14-2004, 06:46 AM
Jay should make one, but not now...
thinking about the fact he doesnt really know much about english...
somemore... looking at other asia singers' english albums...
the results doesnt seem to be veri gd. :excited:
rainbowballoon
11-14-2004, 06:51 AM
English album? I'll be pretty surprised. I think jay can try that if he can sing well in english.. this opportunity will enable to reach out to more english-speaking countries and spread his musical talents worldwide. Worth a try - but we must wait till Jay masters the language, I suppose. I think making Chinese albums now are fine. (:
ropgurl
11-14-2004, 07:13 AM
i have never heard jay speak english so i have no idea. but personally..i think that most chinese singers should just stick with their native language. some english in the song is ok. but not the whole song...unless of course if they were raised in america like coco lee and wong leehom.
lin_mingqi
11-28-2004, 08:47 AM
no way ... jay making an english album would be like -insert popular american pop artist here- singing in Mandarin for the hell of it.. ridiculous with a capital R. I for one wouldn't be interested in it despite the fact that I am a huge Jay chou fan. Actually, I think i would be more put off by it than excited by the idea. It would only be seen as a transparent attempt at making more money. I'm sure Jay knows this, and making more money is probably not his main concern right now - which is probably why it won't happen. There's no need for Jay to make one since A.) His english is weak at best. B.) his fortune and fame don't depend on it ... and C.) he doesn't seem to be interested in it either. ALso, i don't think his style would hold up in an american market which would be the market for an english album. The way i see it, american pop is a totally different dynamic from what jay's songs are all about. American artists focus on different subjects, and for some reason, i just don't see jay singing about "bitches and hoes" and club hopping.
Right now, jay is the best at what he does ... he simply needs to keep it up ... an english album would only diminish his reputation for making good music and would harm his popularity and credence as an artist.
flick
11-29-2004, 12:42 AM
No... I think it would ruin his street cred. I heard NanChuan Mama's first single - and almost fainted at the chorus bit tbh. They sound much better just singing in chinese. Jay C's strength is in being able to rap chinese and create original music as a result (so loads of chinese artists are copying him now) :)
charlette
11-29-2004, 02:27 AM
at least for now, i don't wish for Jay to have an Eng album. I think he's successsful enuff now as it is...unless he feels he wants to move on and is ready to venture into new grounds, then of coz i'll support him. what's more, Jay is CHINESE and that's his style, and he's so proud of the Chinese culture, after all he's done, why should he still in the end, cut an Eng album, just to cater to those who don't understand Chinese? Much as Jay hopes to win an International award, i won't want him to sing English just to let Westerners understand him! Why don't they learn Chinese?! And if Jay wins an international award with his Chinese music, that will be even more diao! Also...Jay isn't good in English, so i feel he won't be comfortable or confident enough to sing in English.
eunicezy
12-01-2004, 11:16 AM
I think Jay should never make any english albums. (yup, never)
He should just only concentrated and devote all his time making chinese albums. I hope he don't feel too contented with his current status in the mandopop scene. And tries to make a English album just for the sake of being introduced to the international market. (I think that wouldn't happen.) Moreover, his English isn't that fantastic. I think he knows limited English. So, it will be really hard for him to sing in English. And the album will end up being crappy. And he will be laughed by others.
So, No English albums, he should just continue singing in Chinese.
Odium: De_Vangelis
12-01-2004, 11:22 PM
Nope, I feel that it's not the time for him to make a English song. Although of course, I want him to spread his talent worldwide.
But I feel that he still can explore the possibilities of Chinese music. English album is just not his thing, furthermore with his limited speaking ability. It would have a greater value if he is able to introduce the chinese culture and his true style to the world/western community rather than he selfishly wants to break the western entertainment with something that is not his style/strength.
Yes and no. He's really talented and I think that his versatile style would be enjoyed by many English speakers, but on the other hand, his English is limited, and I don't think he would enjoy making English music if he felt like his English is substandard. Like for example, I love Koda Kumi (Japanese) and her music but I cringe whenever I hear a couple of English words in her songs.
I like how Jay doesn't conform like other Asian pop stars, that is, have English names for his songs and inserted a lot of English words in his lyrics. There are some but not so many that they overwhelm the true meaning of his music that he's trying to convey. It makes him Jay :happy:
XiaoWuan
12-07-2004, 04:41 PM
I think Jay shouldnt make a english album... :dry:
because in my opinion chinese music is generally betta...I neo that I`m not a real chinese girl and I neo that I couldnt understand so much Chinese but the chinese music sounds for me more familiar than english...and jay is a great singer and makes cool chinese music...so its betta when he just make chinese albums....!!!! :-) :-)
~ChinGLiSh<33
12-07-2004, 11:59 PM
if he could sing in english then i'd say...YEA! but since his english isn't too great...i dunno.
i think ppl should try enjoying the music. my friends miss out on so much when they listen to my music and they say "ugh...i can't understand this" and they give it back immediately. i mean...i dont even understand him haha.
they should try playing him on the radio for one or two days and see how ppl like it. that'd be great.
midnight_dream
12-08-2004, 12:07 AM
No...because he shouldn't do anything that he doesn't do too well and well...let's just say his English kind of stinks...but he can always learn. But then again, I don't think he'll be very popular among English speaking people...unless he startings rapping in English and stuff. If he wants to...it would be great if he came out with a English song but by no means is he ready for an all English album...
RaVen
12-08-2004, 12:16 AM
Its kinda weird listening to Jay struggling to sing in english, it wouldn't be his kinda style but if he did would people still like to listen to his songs would he still be popular.
spork
12-08-2004, 04:59 AM
I don't think Jay would do very well if he decided to sing in English... At least in my experience with his music, I prefer reading the english translations (and figuring out the mandarin from there :-) ) . The lyrics are very poetic and soft when they're translated into English, but if you try to fit the translated lyrics as they are into the music, chances are you'd have to change the words a lot and make it less poetic...And English is already very unpoetic as it is. I think an english album would sound very clunky and it wouldn't be as sweet as they are in mando...And for some reason I don't think his eastern/western blend in the music would fit very well if he sung in english...but maybe I'm just picky... :/
I think an English album would be recieved rather coldly in the U.S, at least...especially by non fans, which is not something I'd like to see :( I would say keep it in mando where his music remains unique and special to English-speaking folk like me who want something different from the usual stuff I hear on the radio :)
d'saint
12-09-2004, 05:06 PM
for my opinion.. he doesn't need to.. well, aside from he doesn't speak english at all.. and i think he sometimes refused to.. it would be difficult for him and it would be a little bit awkward.. hearing other artists such as 5566 or even jolin sing an english song sounds awkward because they can't really pronounce good english if we compare them with the ABCs and singaporeans like leehom, stef sun, etc..
he has many fans around the world now.. he doesn't need to produce an english album.. he can still accomplish his dream of being popular in the western by singing his native language and prove to them that chinese people 'shi hen li hai de.. bu ke yi xiao kan de..' hehe..
camilla
12-20-2004, 04:16 AM
Personally, I find it very annoying when international artists put english into their music. I'm sure you've all heard many asian artists and bands who insert english words into their songs and most of them sound very tacky. For so long they've had this mentality that everything America does is perfect and awesome and want to be just like them. American companies are dominating China and everyone wants to learn english. I just went back to China not too long ago and it seemed like I couldn't walk 2 blocks without running into a McDonald's. That's why I think Jay's music is so good, because it's not so full of poppy, tacky sounds like F4 (sorry F4 fans). I've only heard one of his songs that has english, Qing Tian, where he says "bye bye" at the end, but it's so subtle that it just blends in. And plus "bye bye" is a phrase that everyone has kind of adopted so it doesn't even stand out that much.
An English album would just kill Jay's genuine style and music and he would turn into another bait for a record label to make money like so many artists in this world today.
clarepeppermist
12-21-2004, 07:49 AM
Nah, i don't think Jay should release an english album. First reason is that his english is not that polish. Personally, I feel that asian artiste should not try to go over to the english side, if you get what i mean. We should just stick to our culture & make ourselves proud of it. Besides, Jay has his own unique sense of music in chinese & there's not a need for him to subject himself to producing english songs.
blivy
01-01-2005, 10:30 PM
I agree with most people here. Jay isn't ready to make an album in English. First of all, he doesn't know English well. Secondly, I think Chinese is a more melodic language than English. People may disagree with me here but what can be said in Chinese in just a few words may be dragged out into several sentences in English. Writing lyrics would be much more difficult-- the style is totally different. Therefore Jay wouldn't be able to write his lyrics for his own songs as he often does. So that would extinguish some of the Jay "flavor" we all know and love.
Lastly, this is only my opinion, but I really admire Jay for not inserting random bits of English into his music. It's like he doesn't have to be cool by spewing English words; he's cool just as he is. A lot of Asian artists overuse "baby" and other words which, in my opinion, simply take up space in the song. Let your music speak for yourself. That's what Jay does, and we love him for it, right?
adorablequrl
01-01-2005, 10:45 PM
i was wondering does he even speak english ? cause i saw some of his mv and he speaks english and it doesnt sound like he knows wat he is saying
pinkydog
01-02-2005, 03:20 PM
i think jay should concentrate on producing better chinese music instead of diverting his energy on english market cos i think music is a "universal thing" ... even if foreigners do not understand the lyrics ... they could still appreciate good music , right? (for eg chinese also appreciate jap and korea music .. even though i believe most of them do not understand the language) :wink2:
mysadworld
01-02-2005, 03:35 PM
i dont think jay should have an english album..many are already commenting on jay unable to pronounce his chinese words correctly..i hope that will not be the case for english words as well...sometimes,it hurts us fans here when we hear such negative comments which can be true at times!but i just like his songs..nothing can change that fact!=)
rachelestel
01-02-2005, 04:01 PM
after listening to jay's songs i now feel that chinese lyrics somehow are more beautiful and have a poetical feel to them as compared to english songs. i dont see why he has to do english songs when he's doing so great in chinese
aniTa
01-05-2005, 07:18 AM
EXACTLY!
azn songs are way betta than chinese songs!
even though i'm from Australia!
i dun even listen to english songs no more!!
Just let JAy do what he wants eh!
Azn is always betta, sumthing called.......
AZN PRYDE!!!
JAY'S PRYDE!!!
i think the english music industry compared to the chinese music industry is more stagnent! the time of songs are getting alike! and chinese lyrics can be used more poetically. jay can't really speak english as well..... so i think he should stick to chinese songs! which he does SO WELL in! =)
jielunfan4ever
01-05-2005, 08:05 AM
umm..I don't think he should, I mean everybody already
knows him so well through his Chinese, I don't think
there is a need to make an English Album, besides, his
English is That good, so I think it'll be a bad idea.
thupham
03-11-2005, 02:10 AM
yeah, that would be a great idea for jay to do. I have heard him speak english, and it is very good. I wouldn't mind buying one if he did an english album. I would look forward to hearing it
cool181
03-11-2005, 10:40 AM
:dry: i think no...this is not the suitabletime for jay to release english album..... since need to learn pronoun the words before can sing well....& i think jay is too busy no time for him to do that.....
not only english songs can be international....mandarin songs also can.....(i think that)
p/s: speak abit english well doesn't mean can sing well...jay also can speak cantonese well then should think about cantonese album??
milyh
03-11-2005, 01:32 PM
i think it would be remarkably hard for Jay to produce an English album. we all know that he isn't fluent in English, the thought of speaking English would make him faint right? even if he did, the media will definitely start comparing him to David Tao, and Wang Lee Hom, whose English are flawless, and i don't think it will be good for his image.
sure, keep your chinese traditional roots, but i think he should learn the english language, it's an international language! and if he can really win this challenge, he will really be a heavenly prince of rnb =)
tangwk1990
03-17-2005, 10:27 AM
Erm...I don't think so. Jay doesn't really know much english, so why take the trouble to learn english just to make an english album. Jay's chinese albums are already doing very well in the music industries. And he is well-known worldwide. So I don't think Jay should make an english album. If he makes an english album, maybe his english standards might not be so good and people might just dislike Jay for this and lose his popularity, which we won't want it to happen, right?
But I think Jay should learn some basic english if he have time. Maybe he can release a single if he had learned some english. Then I'll be quite excited about it!!! :excited:
hamtaro
03-17-2005, 11:21 AM
OF COURSE NO! :D Although having an english album would expand his career, i dont think he will want to sing in english, which he does not feel comfortable in. I think Jay would not make one even if he's able to. Jay sounds better in his mandarin, and english.......erm......maybe no. I think he likes his own mother tongue and feels comfortable singing in that way, so even if everyone tells him to sing in english, much likely he'll refuse.[is this off-topic?: as im talking about 'will Jay want an english album' :tongue:]
haoyun
03-17-2005, 11:27 AM
For those who are not in favor of Jay's english album... I would assume, you are all Chinese nationals or if not... someone who can fully understand Jay's native language. What about us, his big fans from other countries, who could highly appreciate if he would sing english songs?
Let's face it... Jay's talent is not just limited to the Asian market. He has this charm that also captures the taste of other music lovers from different continents. English is a universal language and I think, this would be a great move in his singing career. He'll be acknowledged not just locally but globally.
Allow me to highlight as well that he doesn't have to perfectly master the english language. Initially, he would be needing an english-speaking composer that can write a song for him. Pronunciation is something that can be practiced/learned easily. To attest to that... I'm not a Mandarin-speaking (wo hui shuo... yi dian dian) but I can ably sing all his songs. SO GUYS... please do join me in my prayers that one day he'll come out with an english album.
hamtaro
03-17-2005, 11:42 AM
For those who are not in favor of Jay's english album... I would assume, you are all Chinese nationals or if not... someone who can fully understand Jay's native language. What about us, his big fans from other countries, who could highly appreciate if he would sing english songs?
Let's face it... Jay's talent is not just limited to the Asian market. He has this charm that also captures the taste of other music lovers from different continents. English is a universal language and I think, this would be a great move in his singing career. He'll be acknowledged not just locally but globally.
Allow me to highlight as well that he doesn't have to perfectly master the english language. Initially, he would be needing an english-speaking composer that can write a song for him. Pronunciation is something that can be practiced/learned easily. To attest to that... I'm not a Mandarin-speaking (wo hui shuo... yi dian dian) but I can ably sing all his songs. SO GUYS... please do join me in my prayers that one day he'll come out with an english album.
Maybe you're right, but is Jay going to compose for the english songs? With his 'very-chinese' songs that he has made, we know it's kinda difficult to compose english songs. As you had mentioned, initially, he would need an english-speaking composer, which i think Jay would not agree. Jay likes to sing his own song, and this is what makes him 'JAY'. If he choose to expand his career by having an english album, he's going to lose a HUGE market-china and taiwan. Yes, english-speaking countries' market was also big, but comparing the number of people who will buy his album, China will have more. In addition, many people in english-speaking countries may not even want to buy his album. So i think it's better not to have an english album.
jiali
03-17-2005, 05:11 PM
Hmm, i don't think Jay should make one. Jay is already successful with his chinese songs and has conquered places like Las Vegas, and some other asian countries, even though the people in these places do not speak chinese. That's quite an archievement!
Plus, Jay's english is weak, it'll be very stressful for him if he is gonna release an english album. So, he should just stick to chinese albums! But then again, english can be learnt.. so perhaps after he has improved that, it would be a better time to release english albums. :happy:
haoyun
03-18-2005, 12:09 PM
Should JAY opt to write/compose all his songs... then maybe he can hire someone to translate his songs to english instead.
jaychou_21
03-18-2005, 02:05 PM
Jay singing in English?!?
I would love to hear it! :excited:
Of course,I prefer English because I can't understand Mandarin.
I would idolize him more if he sings in English,
which is considered the universal language.
It would mean bigger stardom for Jay,
even infinite fame because it will gain him more fans
around the world,in addition to his growing
league of non-Chinese fans,including me. :bleh:
So for me,it would be better if he sings in English.
It would be easier for us to understand his lyrics.
But if it would also mean difficulty for Jay,
then I would let it be.
If he can sing and write better in his
native language,then so be it. :tongue:
ruby_unique
03-18-2005, 03:36 PM
i don really think so! i mean it is way too used to his chinese style! :excited: and i generally prefer his style now! :shifty:
go back to the past
03-23-2005, 03:34 AM
I don't know, that's depends on Jay. IF he would like to, I will certainly support him. But if he thinks that he is not comfortable doing that, then I will support his idea as well. Cause really tha's totally up to him.
I , personnaly think that Jay shouldn't make an English album. Ordinary Jay is the best, but I suggest that Jay can put some English songs to his album. That's could be wonderful!
For him, I don't think he will make wny English album, cause I think that he really think that he can be more able to express himself in these Chinese songs.
rainbowseason
03-30-2005, 07:58 AM
well i'm not sure i dont think that's jays style i think jays good with mando heh
i wouldent mind if he try abit canto but english nah not such a great idea to my opinion XD
izzuedevil
06-17-2005, 09:34 PM
hrm....hardly we will see that happen in future... as jay hv to concerntrate and work hard for his
new album every year...therefore i believe that he himself and the company won't take the risk
to sing in english or to invest in such english album....
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princessKitty
06-20-2005, 02:48 PM
Haha, thats funny, jay singing in english, he can't even speak cantonese let alone english.
but it would be interesting to listen. i think no matter what language he speaks in, we would all still like his music isn't it?
junnleenfaah
06-23-2005, 06:28 AM
jay should make a song where he says "baby" a lot since he can sing it quite well in Tornado. that's the only english i've EVER heard him say.. well i guess like, besides "panasonic" or something and "dare for more" hahaha
our hotness jay will need to learn english before making an english album. that would be so hot though :P
cathyndustin
06-23-2005, 06:38 AM
I don't think so.. his talents are in chinese music
Singerchick
06-23-2005, 07:24 AM
I think he shoud stick to chinese unless he can make an english one that can blow the american audience away. You know a big hit single that will make Jay a radio favorite.
For example, Coco Lee was extremely popular, then she decided to sing in English, and well her english album was no way as good as her Promise mandarin one. She's still talented but I don't know, i find it hard for asian artists to branch out unless your MAGNIFICENT. I mean Coco Lee is a great singer but then in the American market next to voices like mariah, Christina, and Whitney she is really nothing to be "wowed" over. And although Jay is a great rapper next to american rappists, his rapping doesn't stand out. In addition, a lot of the western bussiness is very "shallow" and Jay isn't the prettiest flower in the garden.
What Jay has going for him is his ability to create his OWN music, compose, not many american artists have this skill or talent. But then again i'm getting ahead of myself, he has to learn english first. But even so i think he should just stick to mandarin, i mean 3 million albums, although not alot compared to some western stars, is still enough for him to substain a happy life lol.
masterxkae
06-23-2005, 01:05 PM
as Many artist (not only from Asia) try to "go International" by making an english Album (like Utada HIKaru), I still wonder if Alfa music try to do so for Jay. Maybe Jay itself still does not think about that. But one day this idea may will come up.
I personally do not agree if jay for now makes an english album. What we have here, shows that Jay who is originally -not an English speaking person- can create "hot conversations" among us who use English. So what do you think guys?
yah, I totally agree. The great thing about Jay is that he's origionall, if he makes one, an english album that is, makes him look so typical. I don't like artists that go with the flow.
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