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zhy378
05-22-2004, 05:04 PM
first it was in S.f. how it was okay to have same-sexmarriage but now it isn't, cuz some people think is wrong, plus is a big issue since the election is coming up. hehe, so what do u guys think? Should we legalize same sex marriage or not. my opinion is neutral but more leaning toward saying yes.

miki-chan
05-23-2004, 07:45 PM
Well, here in Canada i think same sex marriages are not only legal, but even popular. personally i don't really like the idea of same sex marriages, but in a pro-accept-everything society like Canada, same sex marriages would be accepted sooner or later, so now i don't care anymore.

babyxv
05-26-2004, 02:21 AM
i'm against any sort of homophobia, so i DEFINITELY support same-sex marriages. since when was it the country's business who got married with who? why shouldn't people get the same benefits as other married couples? it's not their "fault" that they're gay; they're born this way.

sigh =\

Phil
05-26-2004, 08:39 AM
k, this is a BIG issue arising... personally... i don't have anything against gays and les... but the truth is, physcologically, the idea that "being gay is bad" makes more people grow up to be "normal" as oppose to being "gay". when gays and normals have no borders... there will be even more gays and les... and the truth and most bottom line is, i only support and encourage opposite sex marriages cuz without that... all human life will seize to exist... canada's birth rate is 1.1 children/family... at this rate, populations will decrease very quickly...

qrrbrbirlbel
05-30-2004, 05:59 AM
i think it's ok, cuz it truthfull is the persons choice, and there is nothing we can do to change their choice

vunsin
05-30-2004, 06:49 AM
when gays and normals have no borders... there will be even more gays and les...
They're either gays and lesbians or they're not. Legalizing same-sex marriage won't make people change their sexual orientations overnight. It'll just make more people come out of the closet, that's all. That's better than me marrying some guy and 20 years and 3 kids later, he finally decides to come out of the closet.

and the truth and most bottom line is, i only support and encourage opposite sex marriages cuz without that... all human life will seize to exist... canada's birth rate is 1.1 children/family... at this rate, populations will decrease very quickly...
I don't see how that will change things. If I were lesbian but I couldn't marry my girlfriend, that doesn't mean I'll "stop" being a lesbian and find a guy to marry so I could have kids. In fact, I'll just never have kids on my own (without a spouse). On the contrary, if I were allowed to marry my girlfriend, we could use sperm donors to get pregnant and have kids. I think this will actually increase the birth rate.

jakinni
05-30-2004, 06:59 AM
I don't think the worry of population rate is a good reason to oppose same sex marriages. Canada may have have a rate of 1.1 but there are many other countries with overpopulation and/or very poor economy that many many children are dying of malnutrition. With such a fluid world as today where immigration and emigration is the norm, it seems silly to worry that a country is going to shrink down to nothing just by legalizing same-sex marriages. If need more people, lay off the stringent immigration laws, not make it more difficult for people to do what they want in their private lives. Heck, it may even alleviate some of the pressure overpopulation is putting on various country's economy, though I doubt that it would make that kind of difference.

gilliegirl
07-21-2004, 04:34 PM
It's a big issue in my state right now and my opinion is neutral since America is a free country so people should have the right to do whatever they want. And since I'm not against les or gay people either so it's none of my business anyway.

mystic_heaven
07-22-2004, 09:42 PM
I live in Canada
I guess I could accept it, I mean it's none of my business to butt into other people and their relationships
what they have between them doesn't have any affect in my life
It's a free country, they should be able to get married

Nikral
07-22-2004, 10:08 PM
Hmm, i think it's really ignorant of someone to tell somebody else what they can or can't do! If it's their choice to get married, their family should support them.
The elections in Canada ended a month ago, but during that time we had representatives come to our school and there was a Christian Heritage party, and when the topic went to sam sex marriages the Christian party opposed it and everyone started booing the lady.

@lly
07-23-2004, 02:48 AM
i don't have any prob w/ same sex marriage. I just hate it wen i hear people say it's wrong. I mean, who has the right to define what's right and what's wrong. Personally, I rather hear people talking about same sex marriages than people killing each other. Why dont' they spend their time to make sure the punishments for prisonors are more strick than worrying about something that doesn't affect them!

Apollo
08-09-2004, 03:43 PM
Agree, same-sex marriage doesn't harm us in any way so why should it not be legal? Most of the homosexuals are borned that way, it's not like they had a choice. Not letting them get married just because their sexual orientation is different from the mojority of the population is ridiculous. I'm not a homosexual myself, but I really dislike it when people try to make everyone else go against the whole thing, just because they don't feel it's "right".

vicks
08-09-2004, 09:17 PM
i am sooo pro-choice. who are we to say it's "wrong" and all the people who cite the bible as a reason to oppose same-sex marraige, .... HELLO.. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE???? what's wrong with 2 people who love each other getting married anyway? heck, they probably have a more loving relationship than a lot of hetero-marriages.

MichelleW
08-21-2004, 06:48 PM
i agree i feel anyone should marry whom ever they choose. What makes others believe that they have the right to tell people who they can be with. That really makes me so made that most feel that they can run others lives because they say it's god's will. Seriously which is it? first they say god loves everyone but then they say god hates you if you are homosexual? but i thought god loved all that he created. I'm not a really realigious person but... if god knows all and sees all (which he does) then he knew this was going to happen. And therefore how can he just turn his back just because someone wants to be with someone from the same sex. That doesn't make sense, i feel if you have a problem then don't look. My friend jaime is gay and heck i have no problem with it. They aren't hurting me so why should i care. I'm tired of these people walking up to me asking me to sign a petition that bans same-sex marriage. Saying they are going to go to hell :dry: that really pisses me off. I tell them i have gay friends and i'm not going to sign something that will prohibit them from being with someone they really love and i walk away. I just don't think it's right! my ex bf didn't like my gay friend so... well boyfriends come and go so i let him go because i didn't want anyone dogging my friend.

jay624luv
08-21-2004, 07:16 PM
i think that my opinion i think it is neutral but i more on the no siad i mean even animals noes there mail and females but even if it becomes legal someday i think i dont really care about it it is their busniess if htey want to get marry or not just as long as i noe i'm straight

MichelleW
08-21-2004, 07:22 PM
i think alot of americans are just afraid of the influence it's going to leave on the childern. I can understand that but it's the parents role to be their child's influence. So I can see why people are trying to ban it but there are more important things out there that is alot worse for a child to see.

swtaznkandi
08-31-2004, 08:10 AM
i think that my opinion i think it is neutral but i more on the no siad i mean even animals noes there mail and females but even if it becomes legal someday i think i dont really care about it it is their busniess if htey want to get marry or not just as long as i noe i'm straight
actually, it's been proven that several species of animals - not just humans - demonstrate signs of homosexuality. i found this article very interesting, in case anyone's interesed: here (http://www.bidstrup.com/sodomy.htm)

and by reading most of the posts above, i see that there is a liberal trend in this forum. cool 8-) i myself am 100% for the legalization of gay marriages and gay adoption. honestly, sometimes i think americans are such prudes, the way they treat issues like sexuality, nudity, abortion, prostitution, etc, when compared to europeans or asians.

ropgurl
08-31-2004, 08:30 AM
I've actually had this discussion with my mom. She believes that its ok to have the marriage..but benefits shouldn't be given because she thinks we shouldn't allow gay couples to have kids because it provides an awkward environment. BUt personally, I believe that same-sex marriage should be allowed. As a teacher of mine brought up..its kinda like the same issue as interracial marriage. I don't see how any of this affects me, so I personally think people should be allowed to get married to the same sex.

babyxv
09-04-2004, 07:03 AM
^ i kind of agree that it does create an awkward environment for a child to grow up with gay parents. but it's only awkward because of these discriminatory and homophobic ideas/opinions being passed on from person to person. and it's laws like these that spread the hate =\

kwanding
09-10-2004, 05:34 AM
i think that gays and lesbians should be given the right to marriage....
bush needs to think this over
im sad tho cause altho i dont like bush i dont like kerry either and i know tons o ppl r just like me
so bush will get re elected..... *dodges rotten tomatoes* hey, im just speakin the truth. its not like i want that to happen....
personally, i think howard dean could have kicked both their butts.
in conclusion, lol, gay marriage should be allowed.

masterxkae
06-29-2005, 11:18 AM
NOOOOOOoo marriage is strictly for a MAN AND A WOMAN.... two guys .. how sick is that!!!! Okay, first of all, how do you feel if your mom is a guy and your dad is ALSo a guy> And vise versa.. how do you feel that you were born because your mom went to the sperm donation center and got a sperm to have you?! SICKKKK jsut thinking about it give me goosebumps >< eek

lvso
07-01-2005, 10:09 PM
I'm just wondering what this has to do with Jay Chou? Does he support gay marriage? I hope he does. It's a non-hate human rights issue, regardless of your religious beliefs. We all have sins, right? And some go in and out of vogue, it just so happens now that homosexuality is way out of vogue right now in our society (i.e. we call things gay when we mean it's stupid, etc.) I'm not saying it's wrong to be personally against homosexuality, that's your choice. It's only wrong if you're persecuting others and denying them of their human rights. :dry:

masterewok
07-29-2005, 06:55 PM
I think that the idea of same sex marriage being wrong is mainly a religious matter(i.e. church putting up Jesus Hates F*gs sign everywhere, they do that all the time at the local church) and it being a religious matter that goes against the rule of seperation between church and politics, so we shouldn't be making laws against same sex marriage. Anyways, there have been a bunch of judges that have consciences that have allows gay marriage at places where it has been made illegal.

mercurialvapor24
08-25-2005, 09:59 PM
first of all, a lot of research shows that gay people arent born that way,but through particular aspects of their upbringing they acquire these homosexual tastes. one doctor even has a therapy program which has been reasonably successful for helping homosexuals. same sex marriage is unnatural, and moreover, it seriously affects kids. this is obviously true, growing up with two moms or two dads is going to be very different than a household with a father figure and mother figure

darkangeldori00
09-09-2005, 11:53 PM
I really don't understand why people are making such a big arguement about this. Sure its uorthodox but seriously, it's not like it's your life. I think people should just let gays and lesbians get married because everyone deserves a fair chance. And especially in the U.S. everyone is equal. If someone can get married to the opposite sex then why cant they marry the same sex? Sure its against my religion but like whats the big deal really? It's not your life and though it may be "wrong" to some people thats their problem. Not everything in like is going to go your way, you just have to learn to accept it. And im not a lesbianed incase you guys think i am I just find theres nothing wrong with being gay.

Zhaohe
09-03-2006, 07:45 AM
The issue wasn't about whether homosexual couples should be accepted or not, it was whether legally and religiously could two of the same sex join in matrimony. As in the traditional sense, marriage was only meant for "a man and a woman". It was also an issue whether or not it should be allowed in a church, since it's against the actually religious codes. Including the fact that marriage originated from the church.

So it's all a question whether homosexual couples should stay strictly legal couples rather than married.

Personally, I really don't care.. =)

swtlilqtJ
10-15-2006, 12:42 PM
i just have to say...since when did we all care about how other ppls live their lives? most the time we don't even care about what our parents say are "right" and "wrong." so why should we butt in other ppls lives. i mean...if everyone in the world was gay...then there were some ppls that want to be straight...wouldnt' we all think the same way we are thinking now about gay ppls?
i thought that we were all free to live our lives how ever we wish. sure...we all gots different beliefs when it comes to religion or different cultures.. that's what makes america, isn't it?

chineseguyjl
10-16-2006, 01:16 AM
since i am a conservative republican, i think gays or homos should get the quick sword of death. I mean no where in the bible does it have a homo relationship, and since most of the people are christian and catholic, it is strictly prohibits that. So to me i think bush should keep tryin to pass that amendment that changes the gay rights into national terms instead of state, and ban it for good.

AZNiNjARaVeR
10-16-2006, 07:34 PM
Im heavily agianst it and do not believe it should exist, being a christian and all...I also am a homophob...i cant stand gays at all...
but i also believe in free will...
but if my kid turned out gay....i would be pissed...
so im agianst it...
Recently the issue agianst gays has turned up in Sacremento where gay rights are under attack by immigrant slavic evangelicals that i thought was crazy, due to the heavy ammount of russians attacking gay rights...and the increasing ammount of them...

swtlilqtJ
10-19-2006, 08:36 AM
i just have to ask everyone...since when do we care about how other ppls live their lives? i mean most the time we don't even care about how someone we know are living their's so y should we care about other ppls that we don't even know? we get upset when someone off the streets tells us that something that we do is wrong...wouldn't gays feel the same that we are telling them not to be gay?
so what if we all have different beliefs, so what if our cultures are all different? that's what makes America...America isn't it? mixed and diverse?
so before we start focussing on other ppls how to live their life....let's just focuss on our own, shall we? ^.~

willywutang
10-20-2006, 03:25 AM
To tell the truth, I can't really decide which side to choose. It is hard to agree with one side because each sides both have great points. I mean, it is wrong for people to deny gay people the right to be together and married. But then again, it has always be known that marriage means the bond between a woman and a man. It gonna be hard to try to change everyones view on the word marriage. Also, it is hard to agree to same-sex marriage because it is hard to think how a child can grow up with 2 dads or 2 moms. Honestly, growing up, the child will face much ridicule from other children and will be judged by the fact that he or she has gay parents. It's gonna be hard for any child to take this criticism. Plus, this child will never able to feel a mothers love if he or she has two gay dads. And the same goes for a child that has two moms. With these arguments, you can see why it is hard to choose a side. But if I really have to make a choice, I would lean toward opposing same-sex marriage because I grew up with a mom and a dad and I want all children to feel their love and care.

atomik86
10-29-2006, 06:11 AM
im not for it or against it but i would like to say u cant help who u fall in love with. life works in funny ways. second of all, i think everyone deserves to fall in love. under no circumstance should anyone be denied that basic human right to be happy, without intruding upon other ppl's happiness. granted same-sex couples will have a different life and they're child will also have to cope and compromise, life works out differently for different ppl. what works for u and i might not work for him or her, and vice-versa

Ginuwine
10-29-2006, 06:32 AM
okay im not a homophobic or a fan of same sex marriage but i believe that it's the individuals choice to do so. i personally won't hate people who choose this path but i don't support it. some people choose to be gay or lesbian and you cant hate them for the factor that they are bisexual, its the 20th century and we should accept ppl that are bisexual.

lin dan
10-29-2006, 06:47 AM
To tell the truth, I can't really decide which side to choose. It is hard to agree with one side because each sides both have great points. I mean, it is wrong for people to deny gay people the right to be together and married. But then again, it has always be known that marriage means the bond between a woman and a man. It gonna be hard to try to change everyones view on the word marriage. Also, it is hard to agree to same-sex marriage because it is hard to think how a child can grow up with 2 dads or 2 moms. Honestly, growing up, the child will face much ridicule from other children and will be judged by the fact that he or she has gay parents. It's gonna be hard for any child to take this criticism. Plus, this child will never able to feel a mothers love if he or she has two gay dads. And the same goes for a child that has two moms. With these arguments, you can see why it is hard to choose a side. But if I really have to make a choice, I would lean toward opposing same-sex marriage because I grew up with a mom and a dad and I want all children to feel their love and care.
well said!...but i'm ok with this kind of relationship as it keeps away from me!

c_c_
11-06-2006, 12:06 AM
I think this problem can be looked at from TWO perspectives: politically and morally. If your politics and morals are in accordance, well, all the more power to you.

First, I want to address it from a political standpoint. As you may or may not be aware, the New Jersey Supreme Court recently passed a ruling that gay couples should not be discriminated against in any way including, but not limited to, healthcare benefits and insurance. Whether the union of a gay couple will be called a civil union or a marriage still remains to be determined. Politically, our Constitution calls for no discrimination between people and this, therefore, implies that gay couples should not be discriminated against at all and have as much a right to marriage as a heterosexual couple. Nowhere in the Constitution does there say that marriage has to be between a man and a woman.

Furthermore, how successful a government is depends on how well it reflects its polity. I believe that the people of America are well nigh ready to accept the legal marriage of gay couples. Also, within the concept of utilitarianism, the merit of a law or ruling should be determined by its usefulness in promoting human welfare and happiness. The passage of a law that allows gay couples the right to marriage will be making many people much happier and therefore, such a law has great merit and should be passed.

Now, I will speak upon the issue from a moral and religious viewpoint. As a Christian, I firmly believe that sodomy is wrong. God created woman and man as well as the concept of marriage as a union between man and woman, two halves of the same being. Eve came from Adam and they are one – what place is there, therefore, in the world for two Eves and two Adams? It is not the natural order of the earth; do you see animals that commit sodomy? Is it not true that animals are always thus paired, male to female? Only humans have been corrupted by knowledge and sin, perverted into believing that gay marriage is as much a natural order of the world as the rising and setting of the sun.

Remember the evil men of Sodom and Gomorrah and what caused their destruction. Remember that it was Sodom that first coined the term “sodomy”

I know that I have not yet told you which of these conflicting viewpoints I would urge upon a government. In such a government as the United States government, where church and state MUST be separated, the answer is obvious, the politically correct choice, which may or may not (depending on how one views it) be morally correct. Morals vary from time to time, place to place, being to being, but the politically correct choice always remains the same at that time. In our time, this choice is to condone gay marriage. The New Jersey Supreme Court has made this correct choice and I am sure others will follow.

jay_ella4ever
01-05-2007, 07:37 PM
its not a matter of choice
if they are happy being homosexual then why stop them, if you tell them no its just a phase... then they'll hate you more...
just becasue they are homosexual, doesn't mean they are any different from us. they still act like us... with just different tastes.

people nowadays are more acepting, but some people still can't help the fact they don't like it and they disagree with it.
they don't choose to be gay, they just are, like us we were born azn, we didn't choose to be azn, or like the african americans, they didn't choose to be black, or whatsoever....

star_light
01-05-2007, 09:40 PM
Well I dont like it and Im against it because of my religion and of my own beliefs but I dont mind if I see homosexuals. It's their choice and I respect that choice. They can't help it if they're born to be this way. It's God's work that he made them that way and we can't change that.

chiru
10-02-2008, 04:29 AM
I do not mind if homosexuals get married. I prefer if two people of the same gender get married because they love each other than two straight people marrying just because. (Which seems to be happening a lot, because America's divorce rates have heightened.) My sister had an arguement like this in her Government class and some said that just because something is in the Bible, does not mean it is true. Of course, someone tried to counter this saying that two straight men could pretend to be gay to get marital benefits. But that is quite ridiculous because if they were straight they could get benefits from marrying a woman. In general, there really is no good reason for gays and lesbians to not be allowed to marry.

azn_dude1
10-05-2008, 02:22 AM
Homosexuals go against everything in biology, really. I think that they have a right to be together, but not to have it defined as a "marriage". They're just really good buddies or something like that.