Rich people...so ungrateful

[l3abystarz704]

well like I don't mean rich people but I mean people who have more than others....i find them being so ungrateful somtimes...like this person i know he always boastful or always talking about all that he has and talks about others who don't really have much and then he's also like very...bratty since he always wants what's new and i'm always like but what you have is new cuz you just got it...What do you think about it? do you know people like that? are YOU like that? I don't think there really is a way to try and change them but...what are your thoughts on how to try n tell them without being rude?

[Viv]

I don't really think that rich people/people who have more than others are ungrateful. Sure in movies and on TV but that's just stereo typical. Alot of my friends have more than others and are rich and live in big houses and that make me jealous but some of them are the nicest people I've ever known. There are some people out there that are ungrateful but were all like that at times. I'm not saying all the time but I'm sure that all of us here in the forum have been ungrateful or boasted about things like that.

[lil~jo]

Yes, thats quite right 13abystarz704.

Its not that I dislike rich people, I do wish that since they were rich, could they not just give a dollar or two to the less rich?
But instead all they want is more and more and they complain way too much about practically nothing.....

So with that, I think they are ungrateful with the thousands of things they own.

[jjfgirl]

well, it's just human nature to be cynical, bitter, greedy...the grass is always greener on the other side. sometimes when he's "wanting" more stuff, it's to show off what he already has. if he brags so much about his money, it probably means that he's lackin in other areas ;) but really, don't let it bother you...or just tell him that he's annoying the hell out of you, and you don't really care what he has...or wants :laughing:

[Pugwash]

Don't be annoyed by those people. What they never understood is that money can't bring them all the joy in the world.

If you feel annoyed by those people, you shouldn't hang around them. I've never really made friends like that. As friends, we're always spotting one another and no one is selfish.

And.. if you can't avoid, tell him off one day that his money can't buy him something you have :bleh: It'll hurt but that personality will get you no where!!

[vashdestampede]

or...you could just burn all his stuff¿

then he'll be moping around for a couple of months....

[sagara0510]

nah he won't
cos he's a rich bugger...he'll just buy new stuff...

best thing to do abt them is to talk about something where money means nothing...

like playing sports...or if u have a bf/gf and he doesnt' then talk abt ur moments together...nice walks in the park etc etc...

money can't buy that

[scarletwillow]

There's two kinds of rich people...
1. People that earn their money.
2. People that didn't earn their money.

Not an uncommon misconception, but do keep in mind that the *true* rich people are the brightest, most successful people in the world.

I'm not rich myself, but I do know and keep in contact with many priveleged people as far as monetary concerns go. Wonderful people.

[vashdestampede]

nah he won't
cos he's a rich bugger...he'll just buy new stuff...

>.<

burn the money as well! :)

[Chun Li]

Vash, how come your question marks as always upside down?

Undeserving people who are rich always irk me. They're so stuck up and ungrateful of what they have, and the worst thing about it is that they totally take everything for granted. They don't realize their fortune at all.

I'm not rich and I've worked hard my entire life for everything I've ever gotten. I've never even won the lottery before. Some rich kids I know just sit on their asses and they get everything they want -- but they'll never have the ambition and motiviation that develops in us -- the hardworking. Some wealthy people are aware of this fact and they are very down to earth. Those are the best kind of people and they grow to become philanthropists.

When I become rich and wealthy, the first thing I'll do is start a scholarship fund for hardworking less advantaged students, as well as a charity for the poor.

What a difference it would make if those ridiculously wealthy people could just give a little more to the society instead of spend the money on their yachts.

[kahel]

A lot of people are suffering with poverty. What I don't get is why with so much money some people can't afford to extend help.:depresse: What's a few hundred or thousand dollars, if you have millions to spare?

But I admire those people who manage to transcend from having nothing to being well off because of clean hard work. Most of the time, having known what the other side has to offer, they tend to be more humble, charitable.

[cici bebe]

That's also what I don't get. If I was somehow to become famous/rich, I would donate probably half to help certain charities, etc. Because half of like, $15 mil or something is still A LOT. There's no need to live life to the most extravagant and wasteful because it's just not fulfilling. I admire Angelina Jolie a lot for her charitiable works and adopting a child from Cambodia.


And I go to a school full of rich kids (because it's private), truly you see how naive some of them are about the world. Like, "oh, ppl suffer? There are people on the streets?" Well, it's not to that horrible of an extent, but basically, they don't care about much aside from their new Lexus for their 16th birthday. But it'd be lying to generalize all of them like that, there's just this stereotype for every group of people, and I guess that's the one they have to be stuck w/.

[kahel]

I guess there is indeed a stereotype for each group...

I have rich cousins too and their real life problems differ extensively from mine. If you are going to base it from my POV it would sound very shallow. But you can't blame then since they are raised in an environment that is fairly different from mine. That's the world they know. Some problems though tend to be universal, whatever status you are in financially.

[xian186]

Won't it be wonderful if they had to work hard, like some of us here? I have frenz whose parents are damn rich, when they dun have cash, they jus get it from their parents. And each time their parents give them alot. While some of us here have to work hard for it. Sometimes I really wish I can swop places with them. Because I'm tired of working, finding better jobs with better pay so as to earn enough cash for myself. But I guess I got to make do with it now. Its my life.

[LiLxAmMiE]

Some of the rich people like using money to, like, buy friendship! they always give presents to some people, and then their her/his friends.. i find that kind of annoying! and they're really popular eventhough they're not nice to their friends and they're bratty and bossy!:happy:
but some rich people aren't like that though. some are like really nice and not bratty at all! i think people act that way probably because how they were raised buy their parents! if they were raised like they could have anything they want, then that's not really good!

[scarletwillow]

Yes, there are different kinds of rich people. The ideal rich person not only is charitable, but doesn't spoil his progeny.

[l3abystarz704]

Don't be annoyed by those people. What they never understood is that money can't bring them all the joy in the world.

If you feel annoyed by those people, you shouldn't hang around them. I've never really made friends like that. As friends, we're always spotting one another and no one is selfish.

And.. if you can't avoid, tell him off one day that his money can't buy him something you have :bleh: It'll hurt but that personality will get you no where!!

yeah i try not to hang out around him much it's just that now he's sorta like my friend...before when i just met him he wasn't like that and so now maybe he's just trying to show it off...cuz like i think he sorta has a crush on me cuz his sister says so and his friend but i just shrug it off since i haven't heard anything from him...anways maybe he thinks money will get me or something but i still hang out around him cuz he's my friend and i can't completely ignore him since i'm friends with his sister...past all that being "bratty/arrogant" he's a cool person very nice and fun to be with...i think he's trying to not do it as much since i've been trying to drop hints saying stuff like "I hate it when...blah blah blah..."

And I don't mean that all rich people are like that i'm just saying some people who have things just always say and do weird stuff...i work hard for what i have and though it may not be much compared to others i'm grateful for having that...and some of my friends come to me complaining about things that they can't have and i don't really know what to say to them but to tell them some things just don't matter...at least they have something.

[Vant]

Keep in mind that rich people are raised differently (Those born into a rich family)... Their attitude toward things are different... (Such as standards of living)... People were taught threw life what was acceptable and what wasn't... Sometimes these views don't work well with the 'lower' class... But you gotta know... Everyone is raised differently ;p

[gr8t_gal]

well like I don't mean rich people but I mean people who have more than others....i find them being so ungrateful somtimes...like this person i know he always boastful or always talking about all that he has and talks about others who don't really have much and then he's also like very...bratty since he always wants what's new and i'm always like but what you have is new cuz you just got it...What do you think about it? do you know people like that? are YOU like that? I don't think there really is a way to try and change them but...what are your thoughts on how to try n tell them without being rude?

Personally- i believe this has more something to do with 'parents' and their way of teaching their children. Wealth may be a part of all this effect, but it is not a big deal. There are two types of rich people, the 1st type are the ones who wants to stay away from people who are poor becoz' they believe their standard is low, and the 2nd type are those who wants to share their wealth becoz' they 'do' understand the ppl who are not rich.
My dad once told me, "Rich can be like a curse rather than a fortune".
And this all brings back to the idea of the way how 'parents' raises their kids.
*sigh* unfortunately, lately- i've seen alot of 'rich bratty' 19-22 yr olds who've been sent overseas by their parent's wish that they go there to study... but they'll just end up wasting their parents money by buying sports cars and such (somehow.. this is reminding me of 'Meteor Garden'... :wacko: since that guy was rich...).

I sooooo know what u mean though, becoz' i knew a gal who was rich, she wasn't arrogant or bratty- she studied hard and such, but she do complain at times and would want this and that. My reply to her complaints?... "No comment". :glug:

(Hey Babystar, who's that girl in that avatar? Is she an actress?)

[scarletwillow]

About all I can say about my rich roommate is that I take food out of his fridge ^_^

And that girl is Hyolee/Hyori, check out the discussion about her in the Jay News forum.

[l3abystarz704]

well like I don't mean rich people but I mean people who have more than others....i find them being so ungrateful somtimes...like this person i know he always boastful or always talking about all that he has and talks about others who don't really have much and then he's also like very...bratty since he always wants what's new and i'm always like but what you have is new cuz you just got it...What do you think about it? do you know people like that? are YOU like that? I don't think there really is a way to try and change them but...what are your thoughts on how to try n tell them without being rude?

Personally- i believe this has more something to do with 'parents' and their way of teaching their children. Wealth may be a part of all this effect, but it is not a big deal. There are two types of rich people, the 1st type are the ones who wants to stay away from people who are poor becoz' they believe their standard is low, and the 2nd type are those who wants to share their wealth becoz' they 'do' understand the ppl who are not rich.
My dad once told me, "Rich can be like a curse rather than a fortune".
And this all brings back to the idea of the way how 'parents' raises their kids.
*sigh* unfortunately, lately- i've seen alot of 'rich bratty' 19-22 yr olds who've been sent overseas by their parent's wish that they go there to study... but they'll just end up wasting their parents money by buying sports cars and such (somehow.. this is reminding me of 'Meteor Garden'... :wacko: since that guy was rich...).

I sooooo know what u mean though, becoz' i knew a gal who was rich, she wasn't arrogant or bratty- she studied hard and such, but she do complain at times and would want this and that. My reply to her complaints?... "No comment". :glug:

(Hey Babystar, who's that girl in that avatar? Is she an actress?)

yeah that is true and i agree with you...cuz his sister complains a lot about everything but i've learn to put up with it..i just look at her and let her finish ahah like maybe she just needs someone to listen to her so i do that for her haha...that girl is lee hyori a korean singer...started out in a 4 girl group called Fin.K.L but is now a soloist...and i don't think Fin.K.L has officially broken up yet but they're doing their own things...hope that answers your question...that was when she still had the innocent look now she's more 'sexy' and there is news about her in the jay movie.

[bla]

rich people can be really spoiled. there are some rich kids at my school and they look down on people who arent at their level. they are really big show offs too. it really makes me mad. their parents are like that too. i guess they were just influenced by them. rich kids are usually the trouble makers. they always try to get everyones attention.

[yummieboba]

Hm, I dont think its the fact that people are rich that they look down on other people. Cuz i mean, a family can have lots of money but then the children might not turn out so bad if the parents raise them properly. I mean, I'm not going to dislike a person because he/she is rich, but i WOULD dislike them if they were spoiled and so used to doing nothing or used to having someone else do everything for them. Then there are those people who don't take anything for granted, and that kind of person is a person I'd respect. But I think being rich could play a little factor in how people turn out, but just not that much in comparison to other factors.

But for the rich/ungrateful thing, I kind of think they go together, unless you were someone experiencing everything when someone earned all the money.. all the hard work and everything. I kinda took my parents money for granted when I was still living with them at home. I wasn't ungrateful, i knew they worked hard for their money and i appreciated it, but it's just not the same. living away from my parents makes me realize really how hard it is to make a comfortable living. I think searching for jobs that pay well and keeping a budget/track of all your expenses makes you realize the value of hard-earned money. O.o Or it can make you realize how fast the money in your piggy bank can disappear. :cry:

Edit: for those of you saying why people might not donate to charities and stuff. It's really hard to find a charity to donate to, because you can never really be sure that your money is going to children in Africa, or other poverty stricken places. My mom would love to help, but she doesn't want to be giving money to 'foundations' that just pocket the money. Cuz you can never really be sure :unsure:

[czavender]

i have a friend that is rich and she always share or no not share hmmm... always telling me all the material things she have.. and i was like ok.. it's great.. beautiful..and so on.. hmm.. i dont know i feel like she's just telling me that because she doesnt have nice thing to say about her life..and i dont know if she's trying me to envy her...but, yes, sometimes i envy her because she can have all she want but at least i like more what kind of life i have now rather than hers..

[jusmate]

In my opinion I think rich people are ungrateful. but not all people.

My friends are rich people, too, but they don't talk about things that they have and other people not have ..... They are very kind to other people and me.

[mystic_aura69]

Some people who are rich are spoilt brats but not all of them.
i know this girl who goes to my school and her family is really rich and all she has to do is ask and her parents get it for them. But she used to be real nice :angel: and now that she hang's with the so called "popular" people :glug: she can be kind of a brat :dry: so yea...

[Aurora_Borealis]

Hm, well not all rich people are ungrateful. That's a typical stereotype... Hehe, but sometimes they ARE brats. =P But then again, I don't know many rich people to say that.
There are these two guys in my class that show off their family cars a lot, and fight about it; but they don't act ungrateful. They actually seem "poorer" than us (because sometimes they're just complete idiots -.-)
Then there's an 8 year old girl, who gets a driver (with the complete hat, gloves, suit ensemble) to drive a limo to our school to pick her up. She always does that, to show off to her friends... and well.. the rest of the school~ ><#
But I don't expect them to be as nice as us "normal" people. Considering that they were probably (not all though) taught that money is a first in everything. But they'll learn... and who knows? Maybe they can adapt to being normal in public; leaving all the fancy things at home. ^-^

[Elisya]

Rich people so ungrateful? Well...it depends on them and how they are brought up. I mean the kids in a wealthy family.

I have a guy friend who is rich. He isn't that bad coz he is not those spoilt-brat or show-offs or that kinda sort.

Well...I also have another friend who I might say she likes to brag. Whenever she bought things, she would calls or sms me and talked mostly about the things and about how's her day was and all. Arghh...it's so yucks to listen to whatever she brags about, considering me who is normal-standard and not rich like she is. And there was a few times when she and her friends would go out shopping and buy lotsa branded stuffs and went to all those espensive restaurants to eat. And then, she will cum and tell me. Gosh, I wish she just gave me a break. Oh and when I smsed her to just keep in touch, just ask normal question like "how are you?", she didn't reply but her friends' sms, she will. Sometimes I think...whether I am her friend or not.

[kewlpiggy88]

yeah, i think it's just a stereotype. a lot of rich people DO give a lot of their money to charity, and are really nice to other people and everything. i think it just depends on who you know, but i think it's mean and false to generalize financially well-off people in this light.

but then again i hate those rich kids who don't have to work hard and just live off their parents' money. but sucks for them.

[Elisya]

but then again i hate those rich kids who don't have to work hard and just live off their parents' money. but sucks for them.

It's pretty common on TV about the rich kids not working hard and they just got a job at their parent's company and all. Mostly have high-post- automatically. They don't know the hardships...

[tortilla_chips]

hmmm.....some of them are ok lah...there's this girl frm my school who's the grandniece of the senior minister of sg, and she's like damned rich and being chauffeured around in a jaguar or a merc all the time, but she's not exactly snobby or anything. at least she doesnt stick branded stuff into our faces, and she's very grateful if someone helps her in any way. i guess the only thing is she's too dependent on her parents, cos they're overprotective :?

[the one]

do you believe in the saying "Money doesn't buy everything" or "Money doesn't buy happiness?"

well sometimes, when you have all the money in the world to buy all the things you ever wished for, you get bored of it afterwards...coz it's just temporary, right?

that's how i feel sometimes so maybe i'd get a job that has just enough salary for me to make a living coz if you've got an expensive mansion, expensive sports cars, expensive jewelry and all those luxury, you're at the risk of being robbed so why be too rich, anyway, right??

just some of my thoughts...

[xiaoern]

i've got a friend, yeah he's rich
these are some of his attitudes i hate about him:
-food wasting. he's the kind of person who can't eat much, but he orders food as if it's free, then he can't finish his food. he has not been able to finish his food EVERY MEAL as long as i can remember. this irks me.

-buying excessive stuff he doesn't need. he has a number of cellphones, tv, cd player,mp3 player etc.

-his excessive generousity. he treats girls and boys alike, no matter how expensive the stuffs are. this may be good to some people, but doing it excessively,its kinda like showing off.....

[SimpleBlackHumor89]

well, im pretty sure that the ppl who earned their money, they raise their children right. there's alota stereo types how just bc one is born rich is braty.. mayb spoiled, but spoiled just simple mean able to get anythign they want... but not everyone is like that...

there are rich people, who have set up foundations to help youths and etc.. just hav to look in to it...

[Vicluva]

I go to a private school and so a lot of the kids there are super rich, and i mean pools, ponies and everything. but that doesnt mean they're all snobby and ungrateful. what do you mean exactly by ungrateful? i don't see why they can't/shouldn't wear branded clothes and have good things if they can afford it.
Its not that I dislike rich people, I do wish that since they were rich, could they not just give a dollar or two to the less rich?

Do you mean charities? :? because maybe its just the rich people you know, but heaps of families in my school are huge on charity work. they sponsor children from africa, and we have tons of social service things to raise money for the poor.
i also fnd rich people also tend to be well-mannered like most of us, because if you have a good place in society, then you want to leave a good impression on others.

and how many people are actually what you call 'rich'? sure you can make a lot but a big chunk of that goes to taxes :rolleyes:

[Shay]

Yeh it's just really how a kid is raised and disciplined. A child can be from a rich family but that doesn't mean that they're necessarily spoilt!
It's true they dont have to go through a lot of financial hardships...but that doesnt' mean they dont go through other hardships.

[ClicketyClam]

in a way i guess this statement is true but as alot of you guys said it all depends on how they are brought up. i think that even if they are brought up properly they will never know the true meaning of money because it is constantly there for them to use, at their disposal. they will never know what money means until they have experienced being poor. until then they can never fully appreciate everything they have.

[jay_chou_]

There are always going to be people like that, people who don't realise how lucky they are with all the things that they have compared to others... but there's always going to be things that everyone wants so we can't change that, even the richest people alive who we think have everything is still going to want something more... whether people are grateful or not, there's not much we can do about it i guess - except maybe lecture them, or even show them what people who are less advatanged then them go through - but even then, they will probably still not fully understand our views on what we should be grateful for.

[ftlouiea]

How they are brought up is important, but I think we're kinda typecasting rich people.

Why are we discussing the rich?
Surely anybody can be ungrateful, so personally, I don't think there is an issue to discuss.

[gCjs84]

Ya. I agree that some rich kids are really spoilt but of course there are always exceptions... I have a friend who is moderately rich and can afford to spend but he is kinda okay and does not flaunt his wealth around... he also likes to treat us once in a while... so I think it is kinda not fair to typecast rich people... :wink2:

[JianDan[Ai]]

I probably would have used to agree, but its quite ignorant to assume all rich people are spoiled and ungrateful. I didnt grow up with much luxery myself, but that doesnt hafta make me bitter towards those that are better off than me and do not understand what its like to not own nice cars and live in big houses. Besides, most people, rich or poor do not understand what it truly means to be grateful until they have experienced a true hardship (basically all you little teenagers really dont know about what you are complaining the rich) It is not a crime to be rich, and they should not be treated as such by those who are less fortunate. Basically those of you who feel the rich really are ungrateful are simply bitter and are ungrateful for the things that you have. Its that simple. So please, show some maturity.

[pyre]

It really depends on the person. It is assumed that all rich kids go to private schools...I have a friend and his family is quite wealthy but he goes to my school...a Government school. There is nothing wrong with that. You all learn the same content anyways.

Some rich people are so snobby I just wanna hit them! They go around acting liek they are so good, when the kid down my street has more common sense than the whole family put together! (I am talking abt a dif famil here)

it all comes down to who you are, what you appreciate, your morals and values and ofcourse, your upbringing.

[friends_pt]

Well, the rich people whom i noe who are basically my friends they are all easy-goin ppl n don really treat themselves superior jus b'cos they come frm a rich family... i think people got this prejudice against rich people perhaps cos of e minority... but i think these rich people are still good in a way...

[dagamezmasta]

i feel that there are two kinds of rich people. people who have earned their richness, and people who are born into richness. the latter are the ones who tend to be ungrateful and unconcious of the great luck that fate has hurled into its way. those who are born into richness tend to walk around like they are superior than the rest and like they got more privilges and rights than others just because they have a fat wallet. don't get me wrong here: i'm not saying every one of those people are like that. just that a majority of them are. people who have earned their richness are those who have been either poor/middle-class when they were little and managed to find some great position in the world and claim wealth and fortune. very few people, from my point of view, are as ungrateful in that particular class of people. they know what it is like to suffer, and don't forget it just because their present living conditions are good. also, the ones who are born into richness, but have parents who have directly earned their wealth, have less chances of being so ungrateful, because most times parents who know what it's like to suffer are careful to teach their kids not to be ungrateful and to be careful from spoiling their kids. one example of people who have earned their wealth is bill gates. an example of people who are born into wealth are noblemen. your whole personality derives from the environment in which you grew up in, and your level of ungratefulness also depends upon the same matters.

[JianDan[Ai]]

Daga is right. There is a difference, but just cuz you work hard to get your wealth, it doesnt mean you are grateful for whatever help you got on the way, and on the same token, just cuz you are born rich, it doesnt mean you are not grateful for being so fortunate and lucky. I'm not saying that all rich people are grateful, far from it, I agree most (at least those I know, who would for the most part be kids that are born into it) are very immature in that they are not thankful for how lucky they are. I'm just saying it is just as immature for us to judge them before we know them as being snobby and ungrateful.

[eimiie]

Yeah, people who are born rich tend to be more snobbier than those who work hard to earn their wealth. For people who earn their wealth, they tend to be more appreciative of their money cause it took hard work to get so far whereas people who just inherit never know the bitter taste of working hard.
I used to think that rich people would be fatter than poor people cause they had more money to buy food. But i read an article recently. in fact the opposite is true! weird.

[zaizai rox]

yea u guys all have good points. i have to admit sometimes i am bitter about ppl who are rich and i just tend to automaticlly go o they're ungrateful just becuse they have money they think they;re better and yea there are people out there who are like that but who am i to judge? i mean i dunno them so i donl;t know how they came to become rich. i think alot of ppl just categorize rich ppl in the o they inherited the money and so they donlt know the value of hardworking money. but yea there are plenty of rich ppl out there who earned there money and then became rich. o yea eimiie i read an article about that also how poorer people are more obsese than rich ppl. i think its because poorer ppl can;t buy the name brand food but rich ppl buy food that has better quality so there's less perservatives so they don;t get fat as fast as poorer ppl. jeez now that im typing this i mean i think its so weird how there name brand food cuz u only think of name brand as material-wise

[Marvdogg]

rich people are the people that do help out the enconmy.

to have poor u have to must have an oposite of that..

rich people are rich because they do strive to make a life out of themsleves.. those kind of ppl are grateful

but those who inherit it and did not work are ungrateful

[wei wen]

i kinda agree sometimes they are boastfull.i don't mean every rich person i think that sime of them are nice kind and friendly too.Only a few of them are like that but if you get to know them well maybe they won't be so bad anymore i think .and maybe if you make friends with them you can change them that is how i make friends with one of my classmate and she is better now to other people :-)

[sagara0510]

my parents started out very poor when we first came to australia...
my mum worked as a book keeper and my dad worked in a sausage factory..
he worked from 6am till 5pm and because i used to go to sleep at 7.30pm when i was young i hardly ever got to see him..

but wen he got a job as a quantities surveyor in a construction company things were abit better... then he went out and formed his own company which was even better..

now we live quite well... i don't say we're rich.. like bill gates rich... but we live comfortably and now that i work its abit easier for every1...

i wouldn't think we're stuck up or ungrateful.. i know how hard my folks worked to get what they have today... and they deserve to live life comfortably into their old age.

[danielle86]

not all rich people are mean... but MAJORITY i think are quite selfish, thinks highly of themselves and show off... well, i work in sales line.. i can feel that.. they are kinda like throwing their money and keep asking for more free gifts... thats not so bad, some are just like asking around cutting your words and just walk away when you try to explain something... some rich people treat us like we are boot licking them and treat us like dogs...
well, i noe of someone, who own restaurants, overpower her child.. dun like her work in sales line... wad the reason? as a part time job, most of the job you can find is sales.. as service industry is huge.. most probably she dont let her work as sales because scare her relatives saw that and treat her the same as she does..

well... letting my steam off...

[~ChinGLiSh<33]

i think SOME (not all) rich ppl just cant get enuff even tho they got soo much. I just think they dont get that there are so many ppl who arent as fortunate and they're all sobbing cuz they cant get a blouse or something. I like those rich ppl who donate tons of their money to charities cuz they actually get it. We need more ppl like that.

[junnleenfaah]

hm. this is definitely a touchy subject for me. okay, well here goes..

i wouldnt consider my family and i to be "rich". i just consider us as "very well off". being rich has made people stereotype that we're all ungrateful, selfish, bratty people. that is definitely not the case. i have grown up in a predominately rich, upper-class white area all my life [yes, being a chinese minority has its downfalls because of our race, in case you were wondering]. my family and i are SO INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL and extremely blessed from God to have a cozy house, cars to drive, money for my brothers and i to go to college, and have the expenses for leisure. i know many people, myself included, who understand that they are so lucky to be well off. i never take my parents for granted because they have given me so much of what i need and want and what i dont need and what i dont want. i definitely do not deserve to have such a wonderful life where money is not our family's biggest problem. my parents worked hard for the money and are grateful, so i believe they deserve every single penny. they have gone from working minimum wage at mcdonald's to making a good amount of money to support their children and themselves.

its unfortunate how people label the rich kids as super spoiled and bratty. yeah, there are times where we can splurge a little money at the mall with daddy's credit card, but for me at least, its because i earned it.

i cant stress enough how thankful and grateful i am for the life God has blessed me with. again, i dont deserve such an amazing life like this where my family and i dont have to worry about financial problems. but i guess i got lucky and am truly blessed..

so did anyone actually read that all? haha.. sorry, had to blow off some steam. no one apparantly wants to listen or understands us supposed "rich kids". i hate that name. i hope you guys just consider me as another teenage girl who dreams of marrying jie lun (:

[kjd-108]

it's only human to be greedy and proud/boastful... :)

[seaweedpatchkid]

Well....rich people won't go to war but they'll vote to send people to war.

That's one of the biggest things we were talking about the other night about rich people.

[lzgirl]

Not all rich people are ungrateful...but judging by the people I know, Asian people who are rich usually are very grateful for what they got.

[theLordabove]

well, as controversial as it is, not all are brats..i know some pretty rich kids that are really mature and humble and so do some of them being ungrateful. it's how one is being brought up by their parents...just don't spoil their kids...

[ViBi]

i cant believe so many ppl are against rich ppl!! i mean, i dont think anybody would mind being richer than they are now... plus, wealth is not the only factor in determining whether a child is a spoilt brat or not.. its all about family circumstances.. ii know many ppl who are not that rich, their parents dont own their own home, yet they are spoilt brats all the same, spending their parents hard earnt money on junk..

wanting more money is not greed... greed is when u want more for u own benefit and is willing to detriment others for u gain.. us humans have an intrinsic value to work for more than what we currently have, otherwise, there would have been no revolution and we wouldnt be here today if it wasnt for those ppl who wanted more and more... plus, u cant really blame ppl for being greedy for money, esp since money runs our society today.. it all comes down to social values..

[junnleenfaah]

i COMPLETELY agree with ViBi, greed is not money. money is just one of the many factors that can relate to greed. i wish people would just be more understanding about the stereotype of "rich people".

if you believe all rich people are spoiled and are ungrateful, then doesnt that mean you're trying to say all famous people arent giving? are you saying JAY and many other celebrities arent giving when they've donated so much money to the tsunami fund?

[cuso4]

up till here, from what i gather after reading up to this page, i can only say that this is quite a steoreotypical thread. there are certain misconceptions about the rich(though i'm not one).

the argument about the rich being show-off about what they've got - big cars, big houses, over flowing bank accounts... they've earn what they're worth, so why not spend? take for example ur parents just struck lottery and the family just turned rich overnight, wouldn't they spend it too? like buy a bigger house, get a car or employ a maid thanks to the extra income. to me, i see it as the same idea, they've got extra cash and why not spend it?

i was pretty disturbed by this line here...
What a difference it would make if those ridiculously wealthy people could just give a little more to the society instead of spend the money on their yachts.
rich DO give to the society. it doesn't mean that you havent heard of it that you don't know it. there are more people who are in need in help in this world, compare to the number of those who can give... help is always needed. you can't expect all the millionaires in the world to be able to save the world from poverty and turn it into utopia can you? they are not superman(nor do they print money). :dry: and do you even know of any ridiculously wealthy people? and most rich people have what they call it... 'big toys' like yachts coz its their way of 'socialising' with their kind if put in a crude way. they need to look rich, either to boost their ego(knowing that they own what they have earned) or to attract fellow 'wealthy's. rich people, deal with other rich people so they can stay rich. they invest in each other's companies/items to keep them at the top. nobody would want to fall from the top would they? :happy:

ok back to the discussion... (i'm discussing against the arguments towards the rich generally here now.)

to say the truth, if you've got that extra bit of cash, would you REALLY donate? well, perhaps so after spending to your worth. wouldn't you get the lastest handphone? the new ipod mini? a new laptop? or how about splurging the extra cash to watch jay's concert more than once? 'i'll donate the rest after i spent my worth...' having consumerism on the rise in a modern world like this... where does spending ur worth stop at? :worry:

and if you do not realise that rich people get taxed too. the more income they have, the more they get taxed on. their money doesn't come overflowing too... the government sucks more money out of them. and thanks to the existence of the overwhelming number of charities, they are being perceived as the ones who HAVE TO help those in need, because they are rich. and their donations to these charities go by big amounts each time too. what makes you say that the rich do not do generous deeds? :?

from what i know not all donations are made publicly known, most rich people prefer to stay low-profile and do the good deeds in the dark - from donations to adoption of children or setting up schools/organisations to help the needy especially. for a very simple example, my school was set up by a group of successful businessmen many many decades back. for what reason? they believe that education is essential and vital for the good upbringing of the young. not everyone has the ability(money) to set up schools and the government doesn't do everything. the government supports(the setting up of a school, in this case. the school that you study/studied in, might probably be one of the generous deeds done by some of the 'ungrateful' rich people that you have not heard about.

saying that some rich guy donated millions to an organisation, and having the limelight shone right in his face isn't always desirable. plus if people knew he was SO rich, there are always other bootlickers, whom he might not haven contacted in years, coming to knock at his door trying to befriend him(or his riches) again. speaking about ungrateful... :dry:

the thing here is that most of the 'arguments' i see here that says rich people are ungrateful are experience from 'rich brats in school'. you have just said it. school. school go-ers are what? children, teenagers and at most, young adults. the level of maturity of youngsters have not reached that level to understand yet. :worry: plus that they are born with the silver spoon, they won't understand what is it like to be less well off. they won't understand the feeling of having to scrimp and save, help out with chores, doing part time jobs to contribute to the family income. for a note, i can safely say that probably youngsters who do not grow up with a silver spoon tend to have a higher level of maturity, as they know and have gone through what it is like to work hard or to the extent of suffer.

parents definitely love their children, be it of a poor or a rich family. richer parents would stuff their kids with money so they can spend it on the things they like. call it materialistic, but it's still a kind of satisfaction. i guess most of us are not from the 'ultimate riches' category of the society, just think, if your parents were more wealthy, wouldn't they want to give you that extra pocket money so you can have a more fulfilling lunch in school? or give you that extra allowance so you can go to jay's concert?

because wealthier families do not have that much of the NEED to save, (they do save, mind you.) they can afford to give that extra cash to their kids. what do their kids do? buy the latest handphone or newest game in the market. call it show off, but do they really show off? probably some do... but wouldn't you tell your friends about the new computer you got at home? or your new handphone? by telling, it can jolly well snowball to become rumours, and become show-off-ish.(don't mind that self constructed word there.)

and i was saying, do the rich really show off? probably one of the 'rich brats in school' would probably drive his new red jaguar to school. of course it would attract a lot of attention, but is he really showing off? does that rich brat sit in his car all day and accelerate, making 'vroom vroom' sounds showing off that high powered whatever engine he's got? im afraid only a minority or the minority of rich brats have the IQ to do that. 'he can park his car at home what! don't have to drive to school to show off.' i hear, come on, buy a jaguar to park at home? for what? exhibition? :dry:

what has the rich done to you that makes you think that they are ungrateful? ungrateful is deemed as taking things for granted, from what i know. what did they take for granted? their riches? being born with a silver spoon? bear in mind that the success rich people have comes from hard work. just tink of the rich people in the world... bill gates, henry ford, robert kiyosaki(rich dad poor dad's author), and even jay. don't they work hard for their riches? what have they taken for granted? if they had taken work or money for granted, would they even be named in the same sentence as 'rich'? bear in mind that im excluding those who became rich from something like... inheritance. that kind of riches will run out one day so it's only due time when their stuck-up-ness runs out too. :D

i can discuss even more on this but i guess this much is long enough. i guess this is the longest post i've ever typed. i think 'put yourself in their shoes' would be a very good summation for this long post. and i choose to believe that people are good - things happen for a reason or another. let me live in my own utopian world. :angel:

you people can read the Rich Dad Poor Dad's series to get inspiration, or to lead you out of the misconception of the rich. I truly admire Robert Kiyosaki(the author). :bow:

... apart from my Jay fanatism :D

[jaychou_21]

I accede to the fact that rich people are ungrateful.
However,I beg to disagree at some matters.
Foremost,not ALL wealthy people are ungrateful.
There are still some who know how to
share their blessings with the less fortunate.
They may be fithy rich but they're still human beings,
created from ashes and will return to ashes.
Some rich tycoons and the elite of the society
can be very annoying at times,flaunting their
fortune,showing off their massive wealth,
which,in reality,doesn't make them any richer.
Because you can't take material wealth with you when you die.
You cannot use it to buy a ticket to enter heaven.
Everyone of us is still fortunate.
For we may not have the wealth that the rich possess,
but some of us still have what they lack.
You know what it is?
POVERTY! :shiny:

[Logic]

Talking about wealthy people, i think rich guys aren't as nice as the average one. Alot of rich people are really stingy, they calculate every dollar, argghh can't stand that!!! Whereas the average only has so much so they're more opened with their spending.

[azn_noodles]

i agree with most of you :happy: people that tend to have more just dont appreciate as much, since they have...well everything they need. remember that LESS IS MORE. if you had billions of dollars, you probably wouldnt be as happy, cuz you dont have much you appreciate. if you have less money, you would appreciate the small things, and you'd be much happier. i'm not saying that you shouldnt have no money, since its something you need, but having tons of it doesnt make it any better either

i have a friend that is, sorta rich not really. but she's still a very nice person and still appreciates the small things. unlike SOME people, they get carried away with all the goods they get and since they have it so much, its not really a delicacy anymore. some richer people are very nice and are kind with their money (more or less). i guess it depends on who the person is. buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut most of the time richer people are big meanies. but thats from what i've seen.

[KendoTiger]

The only really rich person I know, totalled five different cars, seven different times. Each car was either a benz, lexus, etc ~ each costing around 60k. Every single time, his parents bought him a new car. HE owns houses in multiple countries. He is only 17. So yeah, pretty rich.

Although he is annoying, stingy (with his own money, not other people's), and an immature jerk, he is still a good person. Most of the time, he pisses the hell out of me, but I can still see that he tries to be a good guy to other people, and is tolerant of almost everything.

*shrugs*

I guess it is a point of view. Although I'm pretty poor o.O , so I wouldn't mind getting a little extra cash so I could spend more time with my friends and family.

[sagara0510]

did it ever occur to you that rich people had to WORK for their money at one point or another??

i think its unfair to say that rich people take things for granted etc

they were once poor too you know...

and what about those rich ppl who donate to charities?? like the tsunami appeal etc? i think its rude to say that rich ppl have no heart and are just snobs.

[wrx'03]

There are basically three types of rich people. Old rich (people who worked for their money), new rich (people who inherited), and the hard working new rich (people who inherited money, but work hard to increase their wealth). Then there's another group where the individual is not actually rich, but their parents are. I think that most of the people in this forum know people in this sub-category of rich people.
It's not easy to be rich because if it were then we would all be rich. There are many sacrifices that have to be made for people to become rich, unless you inherit it of course.

[Merriana]

well you can't just generalize every rich ppl to be ungrateful...
it's not like i'm defending them cuz i know some rich ppl that using their money to help other ppl (and not to gain popularity...)
and there is also ppl that not so rich but they are so boastful that make me sick..
i guess it all depends on the personality of each ppl... :excited:

[junnleenfaah]

i agree with most of you :happy: people that tend to have more just dont appreciate as much, since they have...well everything they need. remember that LESS IS MORE. if you had billions of dollars, you probably wouldnt be as happy, cuz you dont have much you appreciate. if you have less money, you would appreciate the small things, and you'd be much happier. i'm not saying that you shouldnt have no money, since its something you need, but having tons of it doesnt make it any better either

wow okay, way to totally stereotype. i've said this previously.. but like, i guess you could describe my family as "rich". i consider us "very well off". yeah, we have enough money to last us a long time but that doesnt mean our heads are in the clouds and we dont appreciate the little things like the clean water we drink and the beautiful house that shelters us from the cold and rain. money doesnt make us happy, our family.. the fact that we can all be together is our happiness. love is our happiness. just because we have a lot of stuff doesnt mean we're happy. i think that even if we didnt have as much money, we'd still be just as happy. i hate it when people think because we have a lot of money means we're happy.

but believe me, the people in my neighborhood are MUCH richer than we are and yes of course, there are those that dont appreciate what they have. but dont go on saying that people who have more [as a generality] are happier. there's plenty of "rich" people that i know who are incredibly unhappy right now.

and consider this: only EIGHT percent of the world owns cars, they're catagorized as the richest people in the world. do you or your household own a car? if so, dont say you're not rich. if you own a tv, a computer [obviously yawl do.. otherwise you wouldnt be reading this!], a cell phone, or refridgarator.. you're considered one of the richest people in the world. basically the whole frikkin' continent of africa is living in poverty

[chineseguyjl]

WHOA WHOA WHOA, ever heard of a person named Paris Hilton. Hot as hell, and rich.(just wanted to add that). Donald Trump or Bill Gates, rich as hell and still workin when they can retire. but they are earning more and living the life that they deserve, or atleast the life that their families done to give them that.

THEY ARE ALL PEOPLE. SOME ARE UNGRATEFUL SOME ARENT.

[milkified]

I think you're referring to those spoilt brats whose parents are rich and they spend money like nobody's business. But don't worry, they'll realise how hard their parents work to earn money when they grow up and work themselves.

[Zainou]

The one who got rich knows how hard life is. However, it is the one who was born after the richness doesn't know. However, it doesn't mean that they can't be taught about life. It is the parents job. However, mostly, they are busy making their money heavier and finally neglect their children. Consequently, the children became spoilt. Very few of them didnt.

There is a case of a one daughter who was given everything from A to Z since she was born and get divorced just because... she refuse to move from her grand home and stay with her husband in a flat. The husband only manage to get a flat but his effort was not appreciated. It was a good thing for the husband to divorce her anyway.

[josh_yth]

oh man this is just like a life experience from my family, my aunt family is very rich compared to mine, and her daughter"sigh" is always telling me, my sister, and other people what she brought today at the mall, where she's goin , or do you like this thing that i just got, etc.. it's really annoying when she come around my house. also, her mom's just keep giving her money to buy everything she want, even though she sometime said that she need to start controlling her daughter on how to spend money.

[narniapooh]

Hmm I don't think we can generalize "rich people" into one category, since there ARE very generous indiiduals out there, like Bill and Melissa Gates that give away a lot of money. But I can see where you're coming from....I HATE the song "Rich Girl" and the MTV show "Rich Girls." So many it's not "rich people" that bug me so much, but rather spoiled people.

[merenwen]

Not all rich people are like that. I have a few friends who are from really rich families (and I mean like really, really rolling-in-dough kind of rich), yet they're really sweet, humble, and they never ever flaunt their wealth. you probably wouldn't know they were wealthy if you were just passing by them on the street. One of my friends goes out shopping dressed in casual shorts and t-shirts sometimes, but if you looked in her (walk-in) closet you'd be amazed at the amount of grand, branded clothes in there! She just chooses not to wear them.

But there are some people I know who are like that - always boasting about their wealth and stuff, and trying to put other people down or trying to make them feel envious of their "glamourous lifestyles". It irks me, especially when they start complaining about stupid things like how their parents refuse to get the latest iPod video for them because they just bought the Nano. That's just... bratty.

Actually I found out that the people who act this way are usually just well-off, but not really rich. The truly rich people I know never show off and try to make others feel bad. That shows that you're truly privileged and wealthy, because you have the breeding and class to conduct yourself in a dignified manner, and others will respect and admire you for that.

[POTO]

I don't think that all Rich ppl are so called "ungrateful", maybe some are... However, we should not be prejudiced against them cause not very nice.

[junnleenfaah]

The truly rich people I know never show off and try to make others feel bad. That shows that you're truly privileged and wealthy, because you have the breeding and class to conduct yourself in a dignified manner, and others will respect and admire you for that.

you obviously havent been in my neighborhood (= it's unfortunate, but it's oh so true.. sadly.

zainou, the one born after the richness doesnt know? hrm. like i said before, my family is very fortunate to be well off or "rich" as people like to call it [i hate that word, btw]. and i'm lucky enough to appreciate every single little thing they do. from the time they spend with me to paying the water bill so our family has clean water to drink and use.

ugh.. be glad you guys dont live in my neighborhood. it's hell. and it makes you want to strangle many kids at my high school.. it's ridiculous.

[Melvin]

yaya this is a generalisation, or is it spelt generalization, anyway, it can be mostly true, because rich people with a lot of money, usually buy a lot of new things often, so they don't tend to treasure items as much.

so what if he works in a multinational corporation, drives a BMW, has a McLaren in his garage, a Ferrari in his office carpark and many mistresses? IT MEANS EVERYTHING!! it means that he can eat what ever he likes without crazy scrimping and saving, so why would he be grateful for your small favour when he can pay people to do it anytime... Money makes the world go round?? Is that true? not the money that is made of paper, paper can't do much, what i mean is the money that can be used to buy things, because people have accepted money as something that can be used for payment, money can buy material gains..

if you are rich, what can't you buy? cars? houses? stocks? games? xbox 360? playstation portable? now more and more people are working for money!! why do you go to work early in the morning, sit in office or at your workplace and do things that if you really had the freedom to choose would rather be out enjoying yourself?

some critics may say that money cannot buy you true love, you can bring the dead back to life again, it cannot buy you true happiness, it makes people jealous of you.. I think that probably rich people do not value their old friends as much as before... in fact.. they look down at you, because they see you working so hard earning money that salary for a month is their daily salary... i do know many rich people yes, and the way they treat you before they were rich and now is very noticeable...

i think that is why people have said that money is the root of all evil.... but as a debater would say it, it is useful if used wisely..

lol i don't think im going off topic, this is still on the subject of rich people and their money...

Money can be earned by working, that is going to work, and people pay you with money as their gratitude... People are working hard for money, to buy basic necessities and so on, which is understandable. Probably many do not know but if you are really rich like people i know, they will be wondering how to spend their money... they keep trying to use money to buy them happiness... they expect that after working hard and earning this money, it can be used to buy what they like, so it doesn't matter even if it hurts other people's feelings...

it is not uncommon for rich people to value money over the family, their friends, their relatives... serious... they would rather keep their money than anything..

i think that rich people will need to change their mindset and what they can do with money... they may even know that they are hurting others but they still continue and persist as they fear the consequences of not having money.. they become extremely paranoid.... this has to stop in them...

[princessKitty]

Well, I have lots of relatives and friends who are 'rich' and to tell you the truth, they are nice to me. They just happen to be rich because they in someway, EARN it.
If YOU had money, wouldn't you go and buy new things, designer cloths and fast cars?Of course you would because you have the money to.
Melvin Is right,the term it is just a generalisation.
I think it's just how you think about rich people. The way you were brought up and the experiences you had makes you think a certain way.
Because I have never encoutered such a situation, I feel that 'rich' people are nice and friendly. :-)

[KendoTiger]

If wealth is gained through effort, then usually the people are very nice, humble people.

It's the kids that grow up rich, and don't understand how well off they are ~ so they squander money on random things, and have no conception of waste.

[junnleenfaah]

i agree with kendotiger.

so melvin, is that how you perceive ALL rich people to be like?

or..? no?

[~*RiNaJaY*~]

Well, I don't really know anyone who's really rich. Depends on how you define rich. Do you mean people who earn more than than they can spend and still save some money in the bank every month? Or do you mean those who are really rich that they don't have to work for money? Like their parents left them millions to spend. I personally know some kinda well-off people. But I don't find them cocky or anything. Maybe there are some who are cocky and bratty but that's the minority. FYI, people who worked hard to become rich are very stingy with money. That's because they know how hard it is to make money. And there are some who are ungrateful even if they are not rich. So I don't think it is a matter of being rich or not but it's just in a person's personality.

[B o o m e r]

Not every rich ppl r bossy or ungrateful about the money and most of the ppl i know r rich but not that kind of ppl the starter talking about...
but i think so ppl r like what u r talking about.. r ungrateful...

[midori]

Hm, yeah not every "rich person" fits that kind of profile. I know of a few people who are like that, and a few who aren't, it just depends on how they were raised in the family. So there are basically two types: the egotistical and humble.

1. Egotistical: I used to be friends with this girl (What was I thinking) and every single day, she brags about how she lives in a well-off community, and buying clothes and things from brand-name stores. It's basically like those typical mean rich people, who complain about the meaningless things, they think they're correct all the time. Ah, anyways, there was one incident where she was late for class in the morning, and on the way to school, she bought a drink from starbucks, and I'm like wtf, you don't have time to come to school on time, but you have time to order a coffee drink before coming in?

2. Humble: It's either they save alot of their money, and they don't need to talk about their wealth everyday so people could be awed at them, or they spend money like the people described above, but they're not that egotistical about what they got.


What I really hate about rich kids is that it's not their money! I mean, its like ooo you're just lucky to be born in a rich family, and thats all you did to get this kind of lifestyle. kind of like the royal family huh -___-;;

[sam_ho]

It actually depends on what type of personality each person has...or how they act. Sometimes, when there's alot of people, maybe they act like they're more important than others...but that comes naturally if you have lots of money, but as I said before, it depends on each person's personality.

[PHATVW]

Hm, yeah not every "rich person" fits that kind of profile. I know of a few people who are like that, and a few who aren't, it just depends on how they were raised in the family. So there are basically two types: the egotistical and humble.

1. Egotistical: I used to be friends with this girl (What was I thinking) and every single day, she brags about how she lives in a well-off community, and buying clothes and things from brand-name stores. It's basically like those typical mean rich people, who complain about the meaningless things, they think they're correct all the time. Ah, anyways, there was one incident where she was late for class in the morning, and on the way to school, she bought a drink from starbucks, and I'm like wtf, you don't have time to come to school on time, but you have time to order a coffee drink before coming in?

2. Humble: It's either they save alot of their money, and they don't need to talk about their wealth everyday so people could be awed at them, or they spend money like the people described above, but they're not that egotistical about what they got.


What I really hate about rich kids is that it's not their money! I mean, its like ooo you're just lucky to be born in a rich family, and thats all you did to get this kind of lifestyle. kind of like the royal family huh -___-;;

ah yea i know exactly wat u mean,

the first type is da kind that spends parents' money like running water but doesnt have a job themselves, and are always real cocky and think they da shit and better than everyone else sort of type, they only befriend with someone who they think are rich and are kinda like them

da second type is da kind that earns their own money, saves them, spend them wisely, doesnt show off nor boast about it, these are the kind of people who are ur usual true friend, someone who doesnt care who u are or where u came from

[Mika:.]

I would like to stab the stuck-up kids who spend enormous amounts of their parents' money a few very firm stabs in the eye with a rusty needle.

[PHATVW]

I would like to stab the stuck-up kids who spend enormous amounts of their parents' money a few very firm stabs in the eye with a rusty needle.
haha wow dayumm girl, keep it cool :)

i got ur back anytime ya:-)

[Rurouni[X]]

omg i have rich friends and they are so nice
And he even buys me lunch randomly sometimes.
hes really really nice
Cept hes kinda Touchy.. Hes BiSexual..
Anywayz i guess ome rich people are kinda annoying and not very nice.
You cant just Generalise.
^^"