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Phyxius
12-24-2003, 02:41 AM
周杰倫被退貨 「龍拳」要出咬字清晰版!
Jay was rejected with the demo of 'Long Quan', were asked to produce a clear version.
記者傅繼瑩/報導
Source: Jaywife
Translation: Phyxius - www.jay-chou.net
周杰倫的「龍拳」即將出現咬字清晰版!去年他因「口齒不清」錯失大陸中央電視台除夕「春節聯歡晚會」演出機 會,這次決定接受央視要求,特地重錄了現場對嘴的伴唱帶。
Jay's 'Long Quan' is gonna have a clear version! Last year because of his 'mumbling', he missed the chance to perform at the China's CTTV "New Year Party". This time he was accepted of CTTV and was decided to re-record his lip synch tape. (Before there was an article about CTTV sent Jay's demo tape back coz they think it has too much mumbling)
央視一年一度號稱有10幾億觀眾收看的重頭大戲「春節聯歡晚會」,日前出席藝人名單正式出爐,周杰倫、阿杜 、莫文蔚、齊秦已確定將出席演唱,不過,唯獨周杰倫雖然再度受到邀請,但被央視要求重錄現場對嘴伴唱帶,因 為他們還是認為他「口齒不清」!
CTTV's New Year Party has about 10 billions ppl watching each year. These artists: Jay, A-Do, Karen Mok and this guy are sure to perform, but Jay was the only one to be asked to re-record the demo tape, as they still felt that he mumbled, even though they invited Jay this year.
去年春節晚會原有意邀請周杰倫參加,但央視高層聽過他的歌曲後,認為杰倫咬字不清,會影響演唱效果,杰倫最 後因此遺憾未能入選。今年杰倫先後在北京、上海成功開了大型演唱會後,因人氣實在太旺而再度被列為邀約人選 ,但央視晚會相關負責人反覆聽了他的CD後,依舊一致認為他咬字不清,擔心廣大觀眾會聽不懂,決定要求他重 錄現場對嘴的伴唱帶。
Last year's Party was going to invite Jay but once the top-classed staff listened to Jay's songs, they think Jay mumbled and will affect the performance. Jay was not able t
o attend because of this reason. This year after his successful concerts in Beijing, Shanghai he was invited because of his popularity. But CCTV's manager, after hearing his CD over and over, still felt he mumbled, worried the fans will not understand him, he was asked to re-record the tape.
昨晚人在泰國舉辦演唱會的杰倫,透過電話證實要重錄春節晚會將演唱的「龍拳」現場對嘴伴唱帶,這次只是應央 視要求重錄,他表示絕不擔心自己平時的演唱風格有什麼口齒不清的問題,因為不但廣大內地歌迷就愛他這種調調 ,連籃球國寶姚明都鼓勵他「嗯~口齒是不太清楚,但請你繼續這樣口齒不清,因為這才是你!」
Jay, who was holding his concert in Thailand, confirmed that he is going to perform 'Long Quan' through the phone. About CTTV asking him to re-record, he said that he is not worried about his performing style, let alone the problem of mumbling. Because not only fans like this style, even b-ball player Yao Ming encouraged him :"Yea, there's mumbling, but please keep mumbling, because that is you"! *nod in agreement*
眉批
Footnote
只怕歌迷聽到咬字清晰版的「龍拳」,反而覺得沒味了!
It is feared when fans hear the clear version of "Long Quan", they will think it's 'tasteless'
Mushimushi
12-24-2003, 03:07 AM
Well, thankz for the news Phyxius..!
I think its all up to Jay...if he wants to mumble , who can actually stop him...its his speciality!!
at the last part, it stated:
眉批
Footnote
只怕歌迷聽到咬字清晰版的「龍拳」,反而覺得沒味了!
It is feared when fans hear the clear version of "Long Quan", they will think it's 'tasteless'
it wouldn't be tasteless at all, only that it is like a new beginning or should i say a new version, that's all...i bet we Jay fans will still love that song very much...but it will be better with a little mumbling...oops.
:bleh:
Its great that they invited Jay this year.......i hope his performance will be a successful one!!
charmed_1009
12-24-2003, 04:07 AM
Why should they care about Jay's mumbling??
Fans love it too.....even Yao Ming likes it.....why is that a problem??
Anyway......maybe it's because he raps fast.......tat's why they think it's mumbling....are they jealous of Jay's talent????Are they?Are they??
Oops.....sorry......got carried away......
yiwen
12-24-2003, 05:25 AM
hahahha. I think it's alright! I heard long quan so many times and I never felt he mumbled. i think he mumbles more in other songs...esp in slow songs. He pronounced the words quite clearly to me! So what's the company's problem....I dunno. but if jay would get a chance to perform if he re-recorded, i would support his new clear version! but if I were to choose between mumbled or clear, i would choose mumbled :D heheheh. i like it. it's his style.
sUm^MeR
12-24-2003, 05:56 AM
Thanks for the translation Phyxius!
Oh my goodness, could they just drop this mumbling thing? The fans doesn't even care whether Jay hums or mumbles or sings or whatever. As long as he perform on the stage, everyone would be carried away by his rich music and his awesome performance. And I do agree that Jay needs to maintain his mumbling style. He could cut down on it, but don't totally eliminate it. Especially for a rap song. I really don't like a rap song with the clear pronounciation (reminds me of Jacky Cheung's Suan Ming). It will sound lousy.
Chun Li
12-24-2003, 07:38 AM
Whatever ! Real fans can understand him no matter what language he speaks, I'd understand him even if he took his finger and moved it horizontally up and down on his lips and went, "buruururururururu"
vunsin
12-24-2003, 08:46 AM
Thanks, Phyxius! :flowers:
So, if I understand you correctly, CCTV has requested Jay to re-record the song, but Jay hasn't confirm whether he would do it or not? :unsure: I'm not really sure...
Anyways, if I were Jay, I'd say no to them if they insisted that I re-record my song! :-x Take it or leave it! :-x
jaycee
12-24-2003, 09:24 AM
thanks for the news phyxius~ :flowers:
i agree with yao ming! jay should keep his style because it's pointless to change yourself just to fulfill others' expectations of you. mumbling has always been a characteristic of jay and he should be allowed to perform that way. and i don't agree with the part about jay missing out because he didn't get to participate in this function last year ... it's more like they missed out because they couldn't bear with a little bit of imperfection!! no one is perfect. jay's popularity and influence is hard not to notice and they should just accept him for who he is ... it's a little bit pushing it to request that he sings clearer if he wants a chance to perform :-x as vunsin said ... take it or leave it!!! screw them!! jay doesnt need them :-x
knock
12-24-2003, 09:31 AM
But CCTV's manager, after hearing his CD over and over, still felt he mumbled, worried the fans will not understand him, he was asked to re-record the tape.
They already said fans! And of cuz Jay's fans love his mumbling cuz it's the real Jay! -__-l| Who cares bout his mumbling anyway?! Anyway, i think this song is really well sang. Listening to it carefull, it really not much of a mumble. It's only so fast that the head cant follow. I suggest that he should listen to more raps and so on..
vunsin
12-24-2003, 09:42 AM
Yeah, those people are really dense. If we're already Jay's fans then that obviously means we've accepted and actually love his unique style! Duh... :dry: So why are they using Jay's "fans" as an excuse! Duh... :dry: I'll tell them to stop smoking whatever they're smoking and perhaps that'll help clear their minds. And ears. :shifty:
gracecherry
12-24-2003, 10:33 AM
hey everyone , u know what? i feel so happy to hear that jay is invited again, its very clear that jay isnt invited becoz the organising committee consisting of the so called 'high rank' staff, invited jay coz they like him......he is being invited becoz his populairty is IRRESISTABLE!!! ahhhh.....i feel so happy, its kinda weird i dont really know how to say this , i mean its sorta like those 'high rank' staff is defeated.....hehe, coz jays recent concert in beijing and shanghai, has been remarkable, i mean, just look at the demand, he has the market, and his presence are hope by many, so who cares bout his mumblings? i think the cctv staff are over worried, what worries them is just that they are afraid that fans dont get what jay is singing when he mumbles rite? if thats the case, they should just drop the issue coz, the FANS, thats us........like jay bcoz of his unique style!!! they dont hav to worry........jay is what he is, and he is accepted the way he is.......but still if jay had a clear version of long quan, its still ok to me......BTW, i dont think that he mumbles a lot in long quan.......i think its quite clear infact, mayb i m used to his way....haha
kahel
12-24-2003, 10:49 AM
Yay! I hope this get airplay on our local cable's CCTV!
Jay and his mumbling... we loved him with his mumbling and we'll still love him without it :wink2: but hmm, I need to raise my eyebrows with those CCTV executives accepting Jay only if he rerecords a non-mumbling Long Quan. :dry:
But today is Christmas eve...make love not war. :laughing:
Thanks, Phyxius for the news.
e`Sprit
12-24-2003, 11:12 AM
Thanks Phyxius for the translation.
I think it's very tasteless how the CCTV's staff view an artiste. They think they can just ask Jay to change his style however they want? And they claimed it's for the benefits of the audience? And 'the audience' as in fans? What were they thinking? If it's Jay's fans, then of course it's the style that drew them to him. I don't see any reason to change that style at all. Music is supposed to be a universal language and there isn't supposed to be any fixed style on how you should express your music. That's why we have different genres! Gah, stupid idiotic producers!
phoebe
12-24-2003, 12:33 PM
those stick in the mud mgt ppl in cctv asking jay to sing clearly for his fans is like ask picasso to paint properly ! real fans don't need high officials to tell them how to love jay's style cos they accepted and love him long before those cctv guys heard about him. i say to jay - do it your way - if you wish to make clear diction as a challenge , do it but if you are happy with your present style , then ignore them - your way of singing is a style , not a defect !
xJayChoux
12-24-2003, 06:23 PM
Ahem...so...they invited him because of his popularity. But, they want Jay to re-record his Long Quan. :dry: I don't know...but don't they know that we, Jay fans, love Jay because of his style. :? Why are they afraid that we won't understand Jay's singing...we like Jay because his mumbling style. :dry:
Don't re-record your Long Quan, Jay. :-x
Luvoil
12-24-2003, 06:30 PM
Yuck! i don't know what the committee was thinking. It's Jay, and it's his style. why he should change what he really is. And it's too stupid if you are not gonna let someone sing a song because he cannot pronounce the words clearly. Listen to his music! man! :oops:
lol, well at least he gets to perform, I can't wait to see the performance anyway just because he's in it. :)
Shanhaigirl
12-25-2003, 12:53 PM
i say NO to a new version!
How can they ask such a thing?! i mean he wouldn't be JAY if he stopped singing like he does! That's what we all like in him, besides his music - his mumbling!
I love it when he mumbles :) Although i'm not Chinese and sometimes it's hard for me to understand what he sings, but that's not the reason for making new versions of every song he sings. I'm not lazy, i can look at the lyrics, read it, translate it, learn it, whatever!
Jay's way of performing songs is the best!
They already said fans! And of cuz Jay's fans love his mumbling cuz it's the real Jay! -__-l| Who cares bout his mumbling anyway?! Anyway, i think this song is really well sang. Listening to it carefull, it really not much of a mumble. It's only so fast that the head cant follow. I suggest that he should listen to more raps and so on..
i think the 'fans' they meant here not only consists jay fans
it is an all star concert...with fans of other artists included :)
anywayz i don't mind a new version...just as long as it is new
but i don't like the way they rejected jay's performance and asked jay to re-record it :-x
why don't jay change the song he's gonna perform instead?
is there no other better song to perform from his 'ye hui mei' album??
sawmui13
12-25-2003, 05:51 PM
i'm a little confused - so after he rerecords long quan...hes going to lip sync at the performance???
argh...those stupid executive committee whatever high ranked people...PSH what do they know. if they want clearly enunciated words why don't they invite a orator to do a speech instead or something. jay is jay. and if he agrees to do this...i'll be a little disappointed in him. he should just go 'fine...this is me, this is my style...take it or leave it!' instead of succumbing to their stupid demands :dry:
i agree with baby grape - don't rerecord!
may_510
12-25-2003, 07:21 PM
Well, I guess sometimes artists can't just do their way all the time... maybe Jay's management persuades him to do so?
Anyhow, I'm quite curious what will the new version sounds like... Just imagine, it's like the 'new' Jay for a new year... hehe
:yeah:
coldmetaljay
12-26-2003, 06:01 AM
Well, I guess sometimes artists can't just do their way all the time... maybe Jay's management persuades him to do so? :yeah:
Okay if Jay really have re-recorded the song, so be it because I know that Jay will still be mumbling in the song because that is Jay!! :happy: No mumbling is not Jay!! Cant believe that they still refuse to accept Jay's mumbling after all these while, they really should change their traditional way of thinking :dry:
princess_xixi
12-26-2003, 09:22 AM
thans
for the news
i think jay has his rites!!!!!!!!!!!
the cctv have no rite to tell jay to change his music coz it's jay'smusic and thats wat we like jay for
not to change the original version!
jay shold nt change
abra16
12-26-2003, 12:46 PM
haha, think jay dun need to revise his recording liao!!!!! i just heard from the news in shanghai that he will be singing LIVE in the new year celebration, so what's the use of re-recording when he is singing live??? hahaha....
Bailey
12-26-2003, 04:40 PM
yay!..can't imagine a crystal clear version of long quan with no typical jielun mumblings!..oh wait but they didn't say anything abt making him sing a clear version live right?..
*bonk cctv's head if they did*
Evenstar
12-27-2003, 09:47 AM
*sigh* that's really interesting...only If I get to watch it...yah know, with my location and everything even his shadow is eliminated :cry: ...anyway, when I heard Long Quan, I did feel that he mumbles a lot, but of course, you can't really blame him...the tempo of the song is so fast you'd be out of breathe at the end of it :dry: ...I doubt if he coud really sing it clearly...Anyway, Lopng Quan's not the only song Jay sings...why not choose another from his album?? :?
lilmizzaudi
12-27-2003, 05:22 PM
^i agree...if there is so much problems with jielun singing Long Quan, why doesnt he pick another song to sing (like Dong Feng Po... :love: ) but then again, mumbling is like a trademark of jay so if they make him re-record the song w/o mumbling, isnt that going to make the song "un-jay"?? :glug:
phoebe
12-28-2003, 03:37 PM
wonderful news abra16 . maybe singing live is jay's way of doing the song his way and yet not offending cctv.
nueng
12-28-2003, 06:06 PM
I love it when he's mumbling~ It is so Jay...
Long Quan never die!!!! I love this song~~ lol
Thanks for the news. ^__^
Jingle
12-28-2003, 11:19 PM
thanks for the translations....
i've listened to long quan so many times and i've never really noticed it. maybe cuz i'm used to his style of singing and that's what makes him stand out from the rest
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