What came first, the chicken or the egg?

[zhy378]

It's a question that has baffled scientists, academics and pub bores through the ages: What came first, the chicken or the egg?

there are many answers to this questions, and they all dont have to be so scientific or serious, some people say it's the chicken, others say the egg, some might even say aliens who once dropped some chickens onto earth to take over the world (well it kind of work in a way there are more chickens on earth than humans)or the answer is in the bible or few people say it was just a mutation of the eggs that created weird looking reptiles that later were able to fly (hence the evolution of birds) but whatever your answer it might be, dont go attacking the people if you think their ideas are totally abstract and make no sense, instead just ask more of their answer!

so have fun, be creative!:wink2:

:angel: my answer, err..i did thought of the eggs first, you know having reptiles producing eggs when some of them got a bit weird and they later turned into chickens. or maybe they were regular reptiles but later in life got influenced by some sort of odd substance and turned them into chickens....

so whats ur answer, what came first the chicken or the egg?:tongue:





http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e290/dincy101/cluet.gif

Speaking of which....why are there no Easter chickens...and instead Easter is just associated with Easter Bunnies? But, bunny teeth are cute, i remember this really good dancer with really cute bunny teeth...

[khmerchef]

I'd have to say chickens.....only basing things from the Bible. God created animals.....therefore he created chickens.....hence the reproduction of chickens from eggs.:happy: But then He'd have to create roosters to mate with the chickens....Ew! I just thought of something.

The eggs we get from the grocery store are from chickens, right?
But there are no chicks inside the egg, because it hasn't been fertilized, right?
So, we are literally eating Chicken's menstrual things::shudders::

Okay, I'm over it!
But my final answer is: :-) Who cares? Chickens.....Eggs....they both taste good going in my belly.

[tomato_0]

THE CHICKEN FIRST! it can be scientifically made through ivf or whatever =]

but it doesnt really matter, as long as you can eat both ^^

btw, how to chickens fertilise their eggs? my teachers wont tell me.

[orangeman]

I assume the chicken evovled from a bird, or a bird made a mutated egg.

For the stand on the egg:
An animal, most likely bird, lays an egg. That egg somewhat is different. A chicken is born.

For the stand on the chicken:
A bird evovles to a chicken over time. Lost its' ability to fly. Or adapts to its environment, predators, etc.

I'm presenting my ideas. Science can prove me wrong, but my theorie are plausible.

[yukiko]

it's a never ending answer. but in my opinion, i think it's chicken first. :D
since you notice that God create chicken first, so the answer must be chicken

Ps. i eat chicken everyday..

[cync.jay]

ok.. God created chicken.. hmm.. true on its own..

well.. my opinion.. hmm.. there were birds.. and a bird lay an egg.. somehow because of evolution and stuff.. the egg hatch and walla~~~ a chick which then grows to be a chicken and reproduce and reproduce...

so.. for me.. egg first.. hahahaha....

[josh_yth]

well, this topic can be debated from both side.

From the biological view, you can't really say which come first, since where did life come from in the first place, and where did the cell come from, it's just a never ending question.

While on the biblical view, you can said that it's the chicken, because, well, god created the animals first, so the chicken have to come first before the egg.

[Cybore]

Since no one has posted this:
The egg because dinosaurs existed long before chicken. I believe that chickens are the resulting evolution of past creatures.

[josh_yth]

Since no one has posted this:
The egg because dinosaurs existed long before chicken. I believe that chickens are the resulting evolution of past creatures.

well, then there's another question, where did the dinosaurs came from in the first place, they can't just pop out of nowhere, right?

[deeyan]

God created dinosaurs maybe?
for me..chicken comes first..as many times mentioned above..God created the chickens then they lag eggs =X

[venetta]

I came accross this information sometimes back form a source that I could not remember :

There is one common answer that over 75 million people agree upon. People fluent in the Thai (Thailand) language will tell you that the first character or letter of the Thai alphabet is ก or "gaw" and is represented by a picture of a chicken. The second letter of the Thai alphabet is ข or "kaw" and is represented by the picture of an egg. So, this riddle for these people is a no brainer. The chicken came first and then came the egg.


It's pretty interesting isn't it? Since I'm not a Thai and neither am I fluent in Thai language I don't know exactly how accurate this is, so is there any Thai around to confirm? :D

[XFroZtX]

thats a very hard question
for me...i would think that chicken come 1st
my reason will be chicken evolves from lazy flying dinosaur...lol

[Sugar&Spice]

Which comes first?! I like this thread. It depends, on which one escapes from my frying pan!!LOL:D Yummy!!:d

[shinjay]

For me... is some type of creature or animal do some kind of fertilisation and they produce egg. So egg came first! The creature/animal may make by the scientist and do some special DNA and they finally produce an egg!

[chineseguyjl]

you know what i think, i think that the egg came first. well everyone said that god created the chicken right. there was no proof that it existed first on earth. so it could be that god had a chicken, but gave eggs down to earth and led to chickens, and then BAM it became my McChicken sandwich.

[chinook]

I would go with the chicken evolved from dinosaurs theory, so chickens came first.

[KendoTiger]

Based on cell growth (impregnation upwards developement-wise), I would have to say the "egg".

If you believe in spontaneous creation, then the chicken would make sense.

Otherwise, you would keep building up (molecular levels), until you eventually got a "fertilized egg", which would grow cell wise until it created said organism. Then that organism would reproduce, evolve, and eventually lay an egg which would become a chicken.

So to correct a misconception - evolution (of dinosaurs), would mean the egg came first, not the chicken.

[azianbimbo]

hey.befor i answer the questio..just wana ask.."does female chikens need a male chiken to thing eggs"...:hmm:...interesting.aniwais..i Know the chiken comes firs.t..cus..u cant just get an egg...and a chiken comes out..right?..or can it ..:glug:

[shez]

from when i was really really little and teachers asked the question (from about year 1) my answer would always be: egg

i have no idea why but that's what i always thought

there IS no answer to this question in my opinion

[x_rubberduckie]

I'd say chicken then the egg, because the chicken would lay the egg..
no wait, how would the chicken appear then? :o oh man :P

[khmerchef]

you know what i think, i think that the egg came first. well everyone said that god created the chicken right. there was no proof that it existed first on earth. so it could be that god had a chicken, but gave eggs down to earth and led to chickens, and then BAM it became my McChicken sandwich.

I doubt the McChicken sandwich is real chicken....more like chicken/soy bi-products.:wink2:

And in order for a chicken egg to be fertilized to become a baby chick, a rooster needs to be involved to give his sperm. I'm not sure how a chicken "gets it on".....I used to remember my grandma raising chickens. I remembered when the rooster mates....he holds the hen down by getting on top of her, and pecking her head.

[Rekki]

The egg came first, because other animals were bron from eggs, before the chicken ever existed. lol

[ask4more_jay]

definately chicken.
+ without a chicken an egg won't hatch
+ God created the animal first]
+ ask yourself this: which came first, the adult human or the baby?
+ it just came first! =)

oh about the dinosaur thing.. i think chickens came before the dinosaur. maybe not domestic chickens, like the farm ones we eat today.. but like their ancestors. cuz BIRDS came before MAMMALS. its true.

[Jay luver]

I doubt the McChicken sandwich is real chicken....more like chicken/soy bi-products.:wink2:

i think the McChicken is not real chicken..
but the grilled one or watever IS.
i don't know.
lol.
but im pretty sure one of them IS real chicken
maybe it was crispy chicken burger..
hmm..
can't remember. haha

[Hokagesama]

Well here's what I am gonna do:

1) If you say chicken I will say it's egg because chicken hatch from egg.

2) If you say egg then I will say chicken because egg had to come from a chicken.

No matter what, I think we are going to need a judge and a courtroom!

HAHAHA~!

I got an idea. Let's ask and see what's President Jay's answer to this question HAHA~!

[llhm87]

In my opinion, this question has no solution to it. Coz some people got his/her own theory that chicken come 1st but there are some believe that egg come 1st. So I also don't know which come 1st... Looking forward for the answer... xD

[cinnimon~]

definately the CHICCCKCHICKEN

` Genesis
21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth." 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so.



So He created chicken first, then made them multiply


' unless they had electricity WAYYYYY back then, the hatching of egg could not be possible because the did not have achicken to hatch it,nor did they have an incubiator.



(mcchicken isnt made of really chicken?eww!have you seen the email thread of kfc not using real chickens, but genicially modified ones?)

[Sugar&Spice]

cinnimon-That is just a myth about kfc doing weird things to chickens. And if its not, then I'm going to gag, because I eat KFC!!:shock:

[Ginuwine]

I beleive that the chicken came first, since God created creatures first.
Maybe a egg envolved from a rock just like superman? :D

[cinnimon~]

cinnimon-That is just a myth about kfc doing weird things to chickens. And if its not, then I'm going to gag, because I eat KFC!!:shock:

me too.its YUMMYLICIOUS.isnt it STRANGE why the chicken is always tender? hmmm...

[Sugar&Spice]

me too.its YUMMYLICIOUS.isnt it STRANGE why the chicken is always tender? hmmm...
Yeah that is strange. You know what?! I don't think I'm going to eat KFC for a while.:D

[cinnimon~]

muahaha. i went to kfc 2 days after my friend showed me the chain letter.the chicken without beaks. but man, its realllly good. kfc is yum<3

[Sugar&Spice]

muahaha. i went to kfc 2 days after my friend showed me the chain letter.the chicken without beaks. but man, its realllly good. kfc is yum<3

LOL!! Your right KFC is good. I think it might just be somehing to gross out people so that they can stop eating KFC. Probably, some anti-KFC person. Enough said. I'm going to get some KFC right now!:D LOL

[judes]

...back on topic guys.
this thread isn't for debate about KFC, it's for debate about which came first, the chicken or the egg.

[ssejy_kun]

well. you can't really say which one came FIRST. coz the original pre-chicken animal thingo and its foetus probably slowly evolved to become the chicken.

Like, you have this chicken-looking thing, and it's hatchling is mutated and looks more like a chicken. And looking on a huge scale, you probably have MANY mutated hatchlings. Then some disaster occurs, and the mutated chicken-things have better traits to survive, or something. And then they give birth to more mutated hatchlings that are even more chicken-like, and the cycle continues.... until we have the chicken as it is now! YAY for chicken!

So, to conclude, i say that the chicken or the egg didn't just COME ABOUT. They EVOLVED! YAY for evolution! YAY for chicken! YAY for scrambled eggs!

[judes]

i've deleted a lot of posts in this thread. if no one can post intelligently in this thread i'm going to close it. so please follow the rules.

[sinyee]

well. you can't really say which one came FIRST. coz the original pre-chicken animal thingo and its foetus probably slowly evolved to become the chicken.
Like, you have this chicken-looking thing, and it's hatchling is mutated and looks more like a chicken. And looking on a huge scale, you probably have MANY mutated hatchlings. Then some disaster occurs, and the mutated chicken-things have better traits to survive, or something. And then they give birth to more mutated hatchlings that are even more chicken-like, and the cycle continues.... until we have the chicken as it is now! YAY for chicken!
So, to conclude, i say that the chicken or the egg didn't just COME ABOUT. They EVOLVED! YAY for evolution! YAY for chicken! YAY for scrambled eggs!

I like your explanation haha. It might be true you know. Its the same case as us humans. We evolved form monkeys so maybe chickens evolved from some prehistoric animal. So eggs came about only after the chicken. Well whatever the answer is, I'm guessing the chicken. :-)

[navlem]

I will say chicken comes first, because egg by itself cannot be hatched...

It needs care and incubation by the 'parents'

Without incubation the egg will not hatch..

Besides, if egg were to be first, what would fertilise it? Since there is no 'parents'..

[chrissiewoods]

did you know that chickens are related to the tyrannosaurus rex?

[sushii]

chrissiewoods- woah..randomness...and your font color is way too bright..rules state that no font colors...unless for specific reason..that i dont' remember but will check the rules again later...

anyway..hmmm this is really complicated because the without the chicken there will be no egg..but without the egg there will be no chicken..i think GOD made the egg..and then the egg hatched into the chicken! ..but there is really no way of telling...

[stuartlittle]

there was this very good argument i heard before...it said that chickens were first because when God created the world, he said let there be life...not EGGS... hehehe.... well, my answer is also chicken because...who'd lay the eggs? who'd sit on the eggs? and how will the eggs crack without the hen? they'd just be balut(delecacy in the philippines which are unhatched duck eggs) and they would never hatch.

[hellokitty]

Oh no...not THIS question again XDD

Well I think Chickens came first.

Genesis 1:21

So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according ot its kind. And God saw that it was good.

Chickens are birds right? XD

Well, God created every living thing and like stuartlittle said above, without the chicken what would sit on top of the eggs for it to hatch?

[kwonsang26]

It still baffles me that one egg can evolve into an army of chickens & roosters thus mating to create bigger armies.

But my religion is christianity so I'll have to say chicken.Because it takes two!!!

It's also possible that animals can evolve after they were created by God.But I guess we will never really know the truth.^^:bleh:

[mirumodepon]

i think its chicken first, its stated in the bible God created animals^^

but it doesn't bother me.. as long both taste good^^ lol

[watiwat]

ssejy_kun makes alot of sense with the mutations coming about before the chicken..

that's what i believe as well, that the egg came from a specimen that was chicken-like, and mutated in to what we now know as chickens..

so i believe that the egg came first, from which hatched a chicken ^^

<3

[+peace(^^)+]

in my opinion..i think chicken come first..if the chicken not exist,the eggs also not exist..haha..:excited:..i am so confuse about this..but i think god create chicken first after that it will lay eggs...:brows:

[dh144498]

if you say that God created animals and humans, why does God give them the ability to reproduce? Why doesn't he just keep on creating more animals and humans instead of creating the complicated reproductive systems inside all of us?

[didiwang]

Other then from bible, any other reason to say chicken 1st ?

[judes]

just popping in this thread again to say - please remember the rules of the debate forum and that posts must be of substance (i.e. not one liners).

if this continues, i'll just move this thread into the social lounge, because there's not really anything to debate here.

[orangeman]

For a wacky theory, let's just say some aliens gave birth to an egg and left it here. One of the stupider aliens was left behind also. Thus, the chicken and the egg were both here in existence at the same time.

I'm not religious so that Bible and "God created" theory doesn't work on me. Let's just stick with science, to suit those without religion. Both sources below say the same thing: egg came first.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/05/26/chicken.egg/
http://science.howstuffworks.com/question85.htm

Egg probably evolved from some sort of egg, through mutation within. If they could find ancient ancestral chicken skeletons, I might change my mind.

[pamujung]

I hate this kind of arguement, whoelse will know the right answer >< and from what I heard it was said that there must be chicken before it can produce an egg like god creates adam and eve.

It should be something like that but then if there is no egg, how come there is a chicken. That's confused me enough already ^^;

[jaychou_21]

It says in the Bible that God created animals in their adult form. It doesn't say that they hatched from eggs and come to think about it, an egg wouldn't hatch if not properly incubated - which is usually done by the parent, so I have to say the chicken came first. Silly!!!

[meeda]

the egg, because some organism laid an egg, and when the egg hatched, instead of becoming the previous organism, it went through a mutation and turned into a chicken.

[shadow_whiteknight]

Eh? It's written in the Bible that God create animals, so I think chicken came first

[simple_girl]

' a circle had no end or beginning' this is also referred to the chicken or egg..it has no beginning or end
i agree on that

[ll.jj]

hahaha xD

I think I'll go with the chicken first...it just seems slightly weird for an egg to appear randomly to hatch into a chicken o_O"

plus all the bible-related things mentioned beforehand mentioned by other members

[moosespitz]

The chicken came first!
from evolution then produced eggs. (:

[mindHacker]

Well if we were going with darwin's theory then it would seem the egg came first.

Because things are born with variations in their genetic info and I guess the genus just evolves slowly through time until eventually what we classify as a chicken was born.

But then again it does take millions of years for evolution so you can't really say?

[simple_love]

hmmmmm I really don't know!! If I could guess, I would definitely say chickens.

Has anyone ever thought of which came first, the color orange...or the fruit orange?

[centong]

I think we should ask Noah. Long time ago when GOD asked him to bring a couple of all animal, he brought 2 eggs or 2 chickens?

[puukiness]

^ haha centong makes a good point.
these kind of debates have no end....T_T i'm just going to have to go with my instinctive answer which is the egg. haha ofcourse there is no "answer" its more of your beliefs.

[thefreakyfreak]

well this is quite confusing cos if i say a chicken is first where did the chicken come from but i say the egg is first then maybe the egg came from a bird whichc was disabled or something.. some serious mis-evolution which made a bird unable to fly and is fatter..

[tc9.jay]

The egg! Because chickens evolved from reptiles so technically, the egg comes before the chicken since reptiles reproduce through the laying of eggs.

Then again, maybe the question should be, which came first, the egg or the reptile?

[laruku]

Because chickens evolved from reptiles
....... Where did THAT theory come from? :oops:

That is wayyy far-fetched...

[zashuna]

If you're talking about eggs in general, then it's the egg that came first. After all, dinosaur eggs existed long before chickens.

But, since you're all talking about chicken eggs, then I think the chicken came first. After all, whatever the chicken evolved from, it has to first evolve and then lay an egg. But, my logic is probably off, because evolution is a slow and gradual process. Or, if you're a creationist, then the answer is obvious. God created the chicken, not the egg.

[liyinggg]

Woahh. I would like to believe chickens came first.

Let's create an imaginary scenario that God created all creatures. My guess is that he would make animals (male and female) first than just create a bunch of eggs everywhere and scatter them about.

But that's entirely my opinion :/

[tc9.jay]

....... Where did THAT theory come from? :oops:
That is wayyy far-fetched...

you could google that. I'm sure you can find results.

from wiki:
Amphibians first appeared around 300 million years ago, followed by early amniotes, then mammals around 200 million years ago and birds around 100 million years ago (both from "reptile"-like lineages).

It sounds far-fetched but if you subscribe to the belief of evolution, then it's true.

I mean, think about it. prokaryotes (or more commonly known as bacteria) were the one of the first organisms to appear on earth. Eukaryotes evolved from them. In other words, we consist of bacteria. It sounds rather :oops: but that's what people like the famous biologist lynn margulis and biosemiotician jeffrey hoffmeyer are suggesting. so why not chicken evolving from reptiles?

[zer0andy]

If chickens lay eggs to create chickens, then how does it makes sense that the chicken came first? The egg is the stage before the chicken, and it only makes sense that the egg came first. However, there must have been a first egg, probably a mixture of two different animals. If you wikipedia it, you'll find an explanation.

As for the literal interpretation, the chicken came.(has this been said lol?)

[elvador]

Chicken!
My guess is that there was something very much like a chicken, and it kept evolving and suddenly an accident happened and it's reproduction system created an egg to protect its offspring
=)
Theory of Evolution ;D

[ask4more_jay]

i posted on page 3 like waaay long ago HAHA
i just found that out
BUT im back to agree with centong
we should ask Noah :D haha

[chiru]

Well, let us see:

Birds are related to reptiles, and scientists say that birds came from reptiles. My guess is that some freaky feathered dinosaur laid a mutated egg and the chicken came out. Eventually humans genetically modified it to make it edible and such. My guess is that the egg came first. From some dinosaur...and then the dinosaur had an STD or something and a chicken came out. I do not know...

[SilverShark]

My opinion is that all birds evolved from reptiles and they evolved from fish which evolved from single celled organisms. This famed question is probaly asking which came first the Chicken Egg or the Chicken. Because if it were just any old egg, then it would definetely come first because fish have been already laying eggs. So im assuming the question is about chicken eggs. I say Neither of them are first. EG some feathered reptiles descendents slowly lost their reptile features and gradually turned to small birds. The eggs are evolving too, don't forget. So the egg or the chicken technicaly neither of them were first. I bet you in a couple thousand years, chickens and their eggs will definetely look very different from today.

[JALYN:D]

To me, it's chicken. Based on the bible, God created chickens, etc. Then, the chickens laid eggs. :)

[Qinghe]

I'd like to say the egg was created first just because that seems to be how most things begin, but then I have to think about what holds the egg. Hmm...then it seems like the chicken came first, but if the egg doesn't need to be held then the egg came first. Things usually start small and grow big so I vote for the egg.