View Full Version : Let's pair up similar Jay's songs!!
dazzlette
10-18-2003, 07:15 PM
hey everyone!! i think the beauty of jay's songs is that there is such a great variety with many similarities between songs and yet each song is unique on its own..so why not we try to pair up similar Jay songs? state the song pair and the reasons for putting the 2 songs together.. haha challenge yourself by trying to pair up songs which seem totally different.. like a fast and a slow song..
ok let's not have the usual pairings of like the slow songs together and the fast songs together.. let's try to be a bit more creative ok?
to mods.. if you all think this is a stupid idea you can delete this thread.. i just thought of this while on the bus and had nothing better to do...
song pair :
QING TIAN and KAI BU LIAO KOU
reason:
i think the structure of the songs are similar.. for both songs he only sings the first part of the song once cos when he repeats the song after singing it once thru he goes to the bridge and then to the end of the song.. i also find the way in which he sang the 2 songs very similar.. the way stretches the notes and he arranges and does the back-up vocals (esp on the rap parts) are very similar.. and i feel the emotions he puts in both songs are very similar.. i can sort of sense the sadness and 'wu nai' in his voice in each song.. both songs also talk about some kind of lost love.. (kai bu liao kou talks about how the guy regrets not telling the girl the truth but it's too late now cos the girl is with someone else now.. qing tian talks about how actually both the guy and girl like each other but never treasure the chance in the end they are not together)
manda_hoon
10-19-2003, 08:31 AM
an jing and kai bu liao kou...... cos there is e word an jing in both their chorus...
cici bebe
10-19-2003, 10:05 AM
Man. The difference between the first post and the second in quality is just.. .. it sure makes me "speechless"..
I think a lot of his fast rap songs such as Nunchakus, Long Quan, Double Swords, Coward, etc. are similar because they all have that distorted guitar in the back rarring and they are rapping. Has that same feel to it, which makes me like his softer mellow songs better.
kahel
10-19-2003, 10:34 AM
i agree about you cici, about the difference in the 1st and 2nd post. hehe. and also, about how his guitar driven songs almost sound the same. it does have the same feel.
HEI SE YOU MO and AN JING does have this same feel on it too. same loneliness, same desperation. maybe because both songs root from the unhappiness love gives...
ho_yt
10-19-2003, 10:54 AM
I think is qing tian and jian dan ai because both the songs are all talking about a love story.
Some people say that Qing Tian is somewhat like a sequel to Xing Qing.
I'm not well versed about instruments... but I think both songs have guitar.
And the feeling is about the same... also a lot of lyrics about nature. Very visual too.
I'll pair Hei Se You Mo, An Jing and Shi Jie Mo Re.
All 3 are very sad songs, about the loss of love.
Sparkling_Jade
10-19-2003, 11:27 AM
i would pair up
Jian Dan Ai, Xing Qing and Qing Tian.
they all have this innocent, "puppy love" feeling. the lyrics are simple,easy to understand ,yet touching. and they all emphasise strongly on the guitar (especially in the beginning of the song) the melody is also simple, but ver catchy :happy:
cinsin
10-19-2003, 11:32 AM
I thought that Qing Tian was the sequel to Jian Dan Ai.
Anyway I think that nuo fu and ba wo hui la are pretty similar in the fact that they both deal with social issues.
liana
10-19-2003, 02:22 PM
this is probably weird but i think Ti Tian and Ba Wo Hui Lai Le remind me of each other..
i think its due to the fact that they are both rapped in this slow and melancholic kinda way..and he wrote the lyrics and tune for both..i love it when he writes raps! :) yupp so tts why i feel they're similar..
another reason is cuz when it reaches the chorus of both songs, the whole atmosphere of the song really heightens and you can really feel what he's singing..i know tts the case for all songs..like how the chorus should be the focus..not sure how to describe it but maybe cuz i really love the two songs.. :bleh: anyway..its just kinda different as compared to his other songs..the way the chorus just 'blows up' and gives the song the effect wanted.. [listen to Dad I'm Back when he sings "pls stop beating my mother (1st line chorus) and Terraced fields when he sings "Hoi ya ee ya......."] can feel the passion in his voice..like he's really forcing out his words in a strong emotional way.
The way the two songs start are similar too..in Dad he plays the cello and it leads up to the song..gets you in the mood for a sad touchy issue song..and in Fields the piano also has the same sad feel to it..
Okay think it'll seem like im just going on and on about how melancholic the two sound tts why they're similar heh but oh well tts my pair of jay song for you! when i think of more i'll get back.. :wink2:
dazzlette
10-19-2003, 04:42 PM
this is probably weird but i think Ti Tian and Ba Wo Hui Lai Le remind me of each other..
i think its due to the fact that they are both rapped in this slow and melancholic kinda way..and he wrote the lyrics and tune for both..i love it when he writes raps! :) yupp so tts why i feel they're similar..
another reason is cuz when it reaches the chorus of both songs, the whole atmosphere of the song really heightens and you can really feel what he's singing..i know tts the case for all songs..like how the chorus should be the focus..not sure how to describe it but maybe cuz i really love the two songs.. :bleh: anyway..its just kinda different as compared to his other songs..the way the chorus just 'blows up' and gives the song the effect wanted.. [listen to Dad I'm Back when he sings "pls stop beating my mother (1st line chorus) and Terraced fields when he sings "Hoi ya ee ya......."] can feel the passion in his voice..like he's really forcing out his words in a strong emotional way.
The way the two songs start are similar too..in Dad he plays the cello and it leads up to the song..gets you in the mood for a sad touchy issue song..and in Fields the piano also has the same sad feel to it..
Okay think it'll seem like im just going on and on about how melancholic the two sound tts why they're similar heh but oh well tts my pair of jay song for you! when i think of more i'll get back.. :wink2:
hey liana.. that's exactly how i feel about these 2 songs too.. this was the other song pair i was thinking of too but was too lazy to type so much!! :yeah: i totally agree with all the points you made.. i find the structure of these 2 songs very similar (1st verse, chorus, 2nd verse, chorus and ending) and in these 2 songs the conclusions are somewhat haunting and it really makes you think more about the issue he is trying to talk about.. (in Dad you can feel the 'pain' when he says ' tia si wo men tia' and in Fields can really feel the 'wu nai' when he says the very last line ' zhe zong yi shu zhen de hen nan ling wu') ahhh... i really love the way he did these 2 songs...
ok i dunno about you guys but i find breaking down jay's songs very fun.. makes me appreciate him more when you discover so many layers to his music.. :love:
-dream-
10-19-2003, 04:55 PM
I'm really tired right now, so i'll make my comparisons later, this is a really interesting topic though i think, good job dazzlette :)
But i absolutely agree with what liana said too, i haven't really thought of it before, but when i think back, i see the resemblance, it really is similar in so many ways. Aside from the points you've already stated, i think both songs deal with issues aside from love as well. Both penned by Jay and about the world and society nowadays. I love both songs dearly, and it really is a melancholic kind of rap, and both has a sort of instrument like strings or piano, like liana already mentioned.
memories
10-19-2003, 04:59 PM
i'll definitely put anjing and shi jie mo ri. mayb it's e piano tt makes me think this way. but at first when i heard an jing i thought it was shi jie mo ri. n i began to like e song. it was only after my fren corrected me den did i realise they r diff. so anjing n shi jie mo ri is definitely.
xJayChoux
10-19-2003, 05:41 PM
I would pair up Shi Jie Mo Re and An Jing. They're both sad songs, about heart breaking and a girl who leaves him. They are slow songs with pianos.
I also pair up Xing Qing, Qing Tian and Jian Dan Ai. They're sort of easy, happy but meaningful songs. They also have some same story lines.
The last songs I pair up are Long Quan and Tong Yi Zhong Diao Diao, Shuang Jie Kun and Shuang Dao.
The reason for Long Quan and Tong Yi Zhong Diao Diao is because they're both Pepsi songs, and they are fast songs. The reason for Shuang Jie Kun and Shuang Dao is because they're both Chinese fighting instruments, they have a sort of rock feeling and they're fast songs too.
jaychou88
10-19-2003, 07:48 PM
I would pair up qing tian and zing qing definetely, they both got the same word in the song name, and the feelings of the songs r very close.
Jay not only composed them both but also wrote the lyrics.
Hei Se You Mo and An Jing also very similar, except from the chorus part. I remember hearing Jay sing both of them simultaneously on the radio - a bit of Hei Se You Mo and then An Jing, it was cool!
Shaung Jie Gun, Long Quan and Shaung Dao are obviously the most similar in Jay's songs - all something to do with kung-fu. I thought Shaung Dao was different in that he actually sang the lyrics and not call them out like in Shaung Jie Gun and Long Quan during the chorus parts.
Also the chorus parts of Long Quan and Ban Shou Ren are quite similar dont u think.
I wouldn mind if he made a similar song to Long Juan Feng or Kai Bu Liao Kou since they were that amazing!
Mushimushi
10-20-2003, 02:52 AM
i think i will pair up Qing Tian with Xing Qing because many people also say that they are quite similar..
aznbballer
10-21-2003, 09:40 AM
i tink that an jing and fen lie sound the same becasue of the music... i also tink qing tian and jian dan ai as weo...and 4 sum reason i tink that ti tian and ba wo hui lai le sound the same....
Jay_ayumi_4eVeR
10-21-2003, 10:43 AM
i'll definitely put anjing and shi jie mo ri. mayb it's e piano tt makes me think this way. but at first when i heard an jing i thought it was shi jie mo ri. n i began to like e song. it was only after my fren corrected me den did i realise they r diff. so anjing n shi jie mo ri is definitely.
yeah..i agree wif you...i oso think tt long quan and shuan dao very similar...cos both of them are like fast and very rhythemic songs...i think tt his style...somehow u can identify his songs...
vivien
10-21-2003, 01:07 PM
don't you guys find shuang jie gun and ren zhe has practically the same rhythm, same chorus, same tune, only the arrangement and the lyrics are different. in shuang jie gun, he goes, he he ha hi, in renzhe it's ichi ni sang si, same same. i sometimes get confused when i'm singing one of them and someone asks me which song i'm singing.
also ni ting de dao and ai qing xuan ya, the chorus is just a few notes away from identical. though the two songs give very different feeling, the tune's too similar.
the starting of wo niu and ni bi chong qian kuai le is also very similar, i have this feeling he composed them around the same time, cause it's so similar until i can't stand it. if it weren't jay, i'll be screaming at the composer for having such similar songs. what's the pont?
(this is a good thread, i wanted to know if other jay-fans feel any songs are similar as well.)
Emjay
10-21-2003, 02:12 PM
I would have to say black humour, silence and fen lie
i'm pairing them up cos of their similarance in the music arrangement, and the content of each song.
all 3 songs are mainly about seperation, the heart-wrenching kind. they are also ones that jay reportedly took the longest time to complete in each album. :happy:
sUm^MeR
10-22-2003, 04:19 AM
vivien, I agree with you about the Shuang Jie Gun and Ren Zhe does sounds almost the same. Especially the chorus part. And the rhythm is the same, it's a fast rap song.
And don't you guys think Long Quan and Ban Shou Ren's chorus sounds the same too? The part where he raps the first line in the chorus (he kinda shout and drag the last word) and then followed by a rap with his lower voice. I really think the way he raps in the chorus is very similar.
And Qin Tian reminds me of An Hao, because of the rap part in the end.
V*Taiwan_MeiMei*V
10-22-2003, 06:00 AM
i think ba, wo hui lai le and ti tian sounds sorta alike. i think there's a mix with ba, wo hui lai le as the background music with jay rapping the rap from ti tian.
an jing and hei se you mo sound alike
and qing tian and xing qing. even the titles sound alike, haha yea but everyone else wrote down what i think sound alike alrighty. :laughing:
lattae
10-24-2003, 10:58 AM
I totally agree with you guys that Ban Shou ren and Long Quan is similar...and also that of Nunchuks :nunchuks: and Ninja :ninja: When I first bought those albums... I almost couldn't tell them apart... One very nice similarity was pointed out by
Personally I feel that Tornado (Long Juan Feng) and An Hao is pretty similar.... The tempo... The whole build up, slower verse then climaxing at the chorus... The way he crooned and let his voice 'soar' to a 'high' just before with the chorus, and there's this like pause before he hits us with the chorus :thumbsup: then the "fade out" with 'rap/chorus repetition' is the same too 8)
If you include Jay songs in the sense that songs he wrote (but sung by others)... then I'll put "Ni Zhe Me lian Hua Dou Shuo bu Qing chu" (which is originally sung by jolin) and "Ni Ting de dao"... if you just listen in to the tune you'd find the flow very much the same... (Well, perhaps that's cos I used the Jay's concert version of that jolin song to compare... In "the one" concert the way jay sang the song is really like ni ting de dao)
One thing I'd like to say before I go... this exercise is TOUGH!!!... :prop: Somehow, every jay song seems so unique... and matching them up is almost impossible... :)
sesamestreet
10-24-2003, 02:53 PM
what everybody has done is to link up songs by topics/themes and others by singing/patterns of chorus/verse/chorus kinda thing
but has anybody mentioned Iron Box of the Island and Secret Code sound similar? :?
not the topic they are singing about nor the style that Jay sings in
its the way the beat has been arranged esp. in the verses
in secret code = hi hat X 3 and then
snare drum X 1
in iron box = continuous hi hat and then
snare drum X 1
has anyone noticed that before?
'cos sometimes when i play the 8D CD it sounds too similar if you don't pay attention to the lyrics and you don't know whether it is track 2 or 3 yet
HeY_JaYz
10-24-2003, 03:14 PM
i think it would be...
Shuang Jie Gun & Long Quan...
tts my comment...
dazzlette
10-24-2003, 03:47 PM
One thing I'd like to say before I go... this exercise is TOUGH!!!... :prop: Somehow, every jay song seems so unique... and matching them up is almost impossible... :)
actually i think that's what makes it interesting!! i mean after you realise that 2 songs are similar in a subtle way it seems way even nicer and you can appreciate jay's unique style better.. :yeah: that's what i think anyway...
what everybody has done is to link up songs by topics/themes and others by singing/patterns of chorus/verse/chorus kinda thing
but has anybody mentioned Iron Box of the Island and Secret Code sound similar? :?
not the topic they are singing about nor the style that Jay sings in
its the way the beat has been arranged esp. in the verses
in secret code = hi hat X 3 and then
snare drum X 1
in iron box = continuous hi hat and then
snare drum X 1
has anyone noticed that before?
'cos sometimes when i play the 8D CD it sounds too similar if you don't pay attention to the lyrics and you don't know whether it is track 2 or 3 yet
i never noticed that actually.. i guess the way people have paired up the songs are based on the more obvious similarities.. i mean most of us (at least myself) here are not very grounded in music so we might not be able to pick up similarities in music arrangement etc.. frankly i think it's an interesting observation you made..
vivien
10-27-2003, 11:02 AM
i agree with semamestreet, an hao and iron box has way too similar instruments, i can't really differentiate them the first few times i heard the cd, in fact, after i heard iron box and it started playing an hao, i checked my disc player to see why it was repeating the same song.
and yes, now that you mention, long quan and ban shou ren is so similar, why didn't i realise it before?
di`jay
11-10-2003, 05:08 AM
hmm..if u talk in terms of whether they sound alike anot..i think zui hou de zhan yi and kai bu liao kou sounds alittle same..yea.but in terms of structure..i think qing tian and ni ting de dao have the same structures. stanza,chorus,stanza,chorus,then end.
i agree with some of ya'll
an jing, fen lie, and hei se you mo is siimliar= the most obvious similarity between them is that they're all sad songs and they use the violin and piano
and the way of singing too is sad
the fantasy plus tracks have similariies=maybe it's because they are all sung live by jay
i couldn't differentiate which song is which till now(except that ni bi cong jian kuai le is slightly nicer :dry: )
if i ask u to sing wo niu and shi jie mo ru consecutively, then u would surely be confused! :)
finally now that the new songs are out i think gui ji is similiar with qing tian as both have the guitar as the background instrument instead of the piano to provide a western soft rock feel...the only difference is that gui ji added the live strings and violin to add to the sadness of the song
i'm quite sure if gui ji is without his live 'band' then it will sound very similiar with qing tian :excited: :love:
so i think if qing tian is added with the live 'band' then it wouldn't be far away from the perfection of gui ji!! :love:
and broken string go in the same category with an hao and ni ting de dao
as all three provide a relaxing R&B feel
and the singing too are very easy listening and they are all sing-along songs! :excited:
okay i think overwrote... :oops:
lladee
11-17-2003, 11:29 AM
erm.
1) shi jie mo ri + an jing
2) jian dan ai + ai zai xi yuan qian
3) ren zhe + shuang jie gun + long quan
actually...i think he recycles his lyrics quite often. sometimes the songs have similar lines..or just words. heh..
Polalion
11-20-2003, 03:44 PM
I think Ren Zhe and Nuo Fu. Both lyrics go so fast almost no one can catch up with them.
Ti Tian and Ban Dao Tie He. Both of them have monotoneous rapping.
Shi Jie Mo Ri and Ni Bi Cong Qian Kuai Le. They have a similar starting. Especially the first few notes.
knock
11-20-2003, 06:11 PM
An Jing and Gui Ji
--> Both songs seem ta talk bout how he suppresed his innermost feelings and how he step back to let his loved one go
Ban Dao Tie He and Ni Ting De Dao
--> Both talks bout the sweet memories in past relationship. can sense the sweetness in it.
Long Quan and Shuang Jie Kun
--> the rhythm of the song
Noblige87
11-21-2003, 11:24 AM
I will pair Ban Shou Ren + Shuang jie kUN
Coz they have the " HE HE HA HI!" inside ... quite similar... ahaahhaa :laughing:
cher.
11-21-2003, 12:07 PM
Ke Ai Nü Ren + Jian Dan Ai..
Both songs are very sweet.. and is more to the happy side. :D
melvinljp
12-07-2003, 05:47 PM
erm...first would be qing tian and kai bu liao kou....in the case tt both talk abt lose love
next....is hei se you mo,an jing,shi jie mo ri....all realli very sad sad de.....especially after a breakup..lastly...on songs simlair...would be ban shou ren and long quan...their chorus very similar loh....rite...hehe
jmin13
01-30-2004, 10:36 AM
nice topic here :wink2: actually Jay has alot of songs tat are somehow similar...he always have some rap songs in every of his album..fr Liang Zi to Shuang Jie Kun to Ban Shou Ren to Long Quan to Shuang Dao...all have a common - can make one speechless when sing all these songs..cos they are very hard to sing :happy: wondering how Jay can do tat, he is so amazing..He oso have sad songs which can be paired up..for mi it will be An Jing & Gui Ji..both are heart-broken songs and they are always sing after a break-up.. :sadangel:
the one
05-02-2004, 04:54 PM
i would say "xing qing", "kai bu liao kou", "hui dao guo qu" and "qing tian" sound real similar to each other...since they're all acoustic guitar songs, although with different emotions, both happy and sad...
cpopbaby19
05-03-2004, 08:31 AM
qing tian and jian dan ai..
For me it's "Ban Dao Tie He" and "Dong Feng Po". Jay sang these 2 songs in a very forlorn manner, and also, the chorus for these 2 starts with a question - "Wei she me zhe yang zi?" for BDTH, and "Shui zai yong pi pa tan zou yi qu dong feng po?" for DFP. Can somehow feel how strong his helplessness is when he 'sings in question'!
Another pair would be "Dou Niu" and "San Nian Er Ban", because the contents of these 2 are sports-related. When I first heard SNEB, Dou Niu just automatically comes to mind. Both songs are also 'challenge-charged'... those in-your-face songs (to me anyhow)!
metaray2
07-04-2004, 01:49 PM
ren zhe n shuang jie gun.i find them kinda alike
SimpleBlackHumor89
07-31-2004, 06:57 AM
for me it's probably black humor and silence, although they are totally idfferent lyrical content. but they kinda sound tha same, mayb it's tha piano or something. but they're both pretty sad though
Dong Feng Puo
08-03-2004, 08:32 AM
interesting... i noticed that a lot of ppl paired up piano ballads w/ piano ballads--"an jing" and "shi jie mo ri" for example. i once heard that for ppl who write music w/ the piano, once they hit the first key, the rest of the song is already in their head. perhaps this is why some of the songs in which we hear the piano a lot sound similar? and i agree w/ his ninja/martial arts themed songs being similar not only in theme but arrangement as well. i think it'd be interesting if jay does another ninja/martial arts themed song that sounds dramatically different from the ones he's done so far. perhaps i'll find such a song when i get my copy of QI LI XIANG later today!
jaylover_ryke
08-03-2004, 10:34 AM
i dunno..i kinda link jay's songs up..lyk 4 an hao and ai zhai xi yuan qian goes together..
uh...hei se you mo and an jing goes together..qing tian and xing qing,qi li xiang and dong feng puo..haha..one way or the other,i still lurve all jay's songs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*hehex*
Long Quan and Shuang Dao, or
Long Quan and Shuang Jie Gun, or
Shuang Dao and Shuang Jie Gun
These three all sound pretty same, or
Xin Qin and Qin Tian
Qin Tian and Qi Li Xiang
Ba Wo Hui Lai Le and Ti Tian
So many similiar songs, i duno...
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