Excessive Plastic Surgery (Orig:How far will you go to look prettier?)

[dianilla]

Anyone is free to do what they want with their body. If you want to enhance some features of your body, fine! But too much of something is never good. Like excessive plastic surgery. You'll end up looking like a plastic doll.

Here's an example of excessive plastic surgery:

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7035/sc144pk.jpg
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This girl (Dawn Yeo/Yang) from Singapore, daugther of Chinese parents, has modified many of her physical features in order to get an "eurasian" look. She disses people who had plastic surgery when she had it herself. Girl, don't tell me you are all "natural" :nocommen:

Lying, and denying she didn't go under the knife is even more acceptable than denying her identity, her Chinese heritage. According to her, she has little percent (5%) of thai and dutch blood from her grandparents. So where did the 95% of Chinese blood go? I've seen pictures of her family and she is the only one who looks… errr… “unique”? Hmmm… is she so ashamed of looking Chinese? Enhancing some of her facial features would have been enough to make her pretty. There was no need of getting a new face…

These are the sites that'll provide you more information about this topic:
http://gssq.blogspot.com/2005/11/blogging-her-way-to-instant-fame-her.html
http://blogjunktrunk.com/blog/?cat=68 (includes a link to Dawn's xanga and friendster)

If you still want more information you can go to google.com and type her name “Dawn Yeo” and it will appear many web sites and blogs that talk about her.
I was going to post this in the Plastic Surgery: What's your take on it? thread, but I thought this topic has more to talk than the issue of plastic surgery.
Please, post your comment. I'd like to see what you think about this matter. Do you think it is acceptable what she's done? Did she go too far with the plastic surgery? Do you think she did not have plastic surgery at all and I'm making all this up?

[pepper]

Going for plastic surgery is acceptable for me. Societal wise, plastic surgery is getting recognized and accepted as it becomes more and more common and widespread. Afterall freedom of speech and actions is evident and greatly promoted in many parts of the world. People are free to do whatever they like, as long as they don't bring about any negative impacts to their surrounding people.
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More importantly, we are all sentient beings. Who would not feel mentally and psychologically hurt when there is an inferiority complex regarding our looks? Practically everything in this world is based on appearances. Hence its hard to neglect the fact tat appearances do play a significant role in our lives. For instance, if you were an employer seeking to employ a worker from 2 prospective interviewees with equal education attainment and amicable personalities. I'm sure with the assumption of both having the same capabilities, you would obviously pick the one who stands out more in terms of looks.

In Dawn Yang case, personally I feel that she obviously did some alterations to her face and should just admit that she did go for plastic surgery to prevent so much speculation. Of course we must not forget that S'pore is very conservative compared to other dveveloped nations. Thus, Dawn might be apprehensive about revealing her going under the knife.

[janjin]

Its the way the media emphasizes how certain individuals look great etc. etc.
Since physical looks are so important nowadays in determining a person's happiness its no surprise how far some ppl will go.

I wouldnt say I'd do plastic surgery to look 'prettier' but if given that option I'd go for it. I dont see anything wrong with it.

btw, there's a great movie out about how far someone goes in plastic surgery and how it affected their relationship.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0497986/

cant wait to see it.

[angelofdevotion]

Okay.... well..
I think plastic surgery is acceptable as long you look good in it and u ACCEPT tht u did it to look good. You are not born to be beautiful but u can choose to be beauticul in serveral ways.. One way..PAY ALOT of cash and be pretty//

[lemonchicken]

i also do accept plastic surgery. in my opinion i dont see anything wrong with it. its about feeling good about yourself and if there is a bit of yourself you arent happy about then change it. afterall, "happiness is worth every penny in the world".

[smgyuki]

I'm ok with plastic surgery. As long as you dun go to overboard and are willing to accept whatever results you get after the procedure. There are some people who had plastic surgery until they look so fake or had botched up jobs.. especially those who had botox and some of their facial features somehow are not able to move with the rest of the face. ~_~

[azn_babii_gurl]

how far would i go? not far. wats wrong with being chinese? ever heard of asian persuasion?? lol. why do u wanna go try look european when ur genetically programmed to be wat u r. no one is ever happy with wat they got anyway. even the people with excessive plastic surgery.. they will just keep fixing themself up more n more. spend ur money on something more constructive.

[zhy378]

i say plastic surgery is okay and acceptable as long the patient who uses it respect the method to be 'beautiful'. i find it even more acceptable if the person aware people that they used plastic surgery because there is no point if the person own a excercising fitness program when they monthly use some sort of surgery to look in fit.

[Sou.]

I guess it takes the saying "When you grow up, you can be whatever you want to be" a little too far, neeeee? *laughs*

I think that I'm pretty accepting of plastic surgery-- especially pro-bono work. But people who get it just have to be comfortable with the fact that they're doing something specifically for looks-- but then, that's not a big deal, is it? Nothing new, right? A lot of people do things for looks.

I don't think anyone should take it as a personal offense to chinese culture that she turned herself into a halfie. I'm a hapa, does that make my mom ashamed of the way chinese people look? Of course not. Some people just like the way Olivia Lufkin and Brandon Lee look more than the way Bai Ling and Nic Tse look. :o

[E_Revolutions]

I think plastic surgery isnt really nesecarry i mean everyone should be happy they're unique whats the point of changing your looks? its a waste of money and well theres no real point behind it. If its to raise ur self-esteem than...theres othere ways for that. and if its because its a urge of a moment then thats an even worse reason.

[lotusSan]

I think the people who really need plastic surgery are those who were born with defective looks and for those whose face was scarred/injured by an accident. I think natural beauty is much better and regarded with more admiration than artificial beauty. I mean, true, surgery can make you look so beautiful, but there's a sense that oh, she only became beautiful due to surgery.
As plastic surgery become more and more widespread and common, I think it will have a negative impact on society. More people will be pressured to have their face fix and to look a certain way. Like in Japanese magazines, alot of the models have the same look.

[ling-ling-chu]

Maybe because i am a shallow and superficial person.... (well.. not really.. but u know what i mean)... i REALLY value beauty.

I would actually be willing to go under the knife if it would guarantee that I will become Beautiful. Like I think I am decent enuff to be considered attractive.. but not good looking enough to be stared at on the street by many guys.

[orangeman]

I would never do plastic surgery. Injecting collagen or silicone into my body will kill me soehow. Beauty is what people percieve it is. Even the ugliest flower has beauty, but it's just hidden. Some people just prefer looks as beauty and want that no matter what.

To me, people who do cosmetic surgery are like monsters. Kinda like those spy faces, where you rip it off to reveal one's true identity, except you see human flesh. I just imagine walking down a street and see someone's "new, beautiful face" fall off to the floor. When a new face is needed, just rip and stick.

Eh, too much horror movies.

[pureintuiti0n]

I think plastic surgery is just a way to conform to what society believes is beautiful. Isn't it so much better to work with what you've got? Plus, there's all the side effects you have to worry about.

[Cardcaptor Stacey]

It depends...

Surgery is okay if you've had an accident or if you have a lump/mole or something on your face, but anything else is wrong. God made you look like that and changing yourself shows how ungrateful you are to what God gave you.

[Sugar&Spice]

I think plastic surgery is just a way to conform to what society believes is beautiful. Isn't it so much better to work with what you've got? Plus, there's all the side effects you have to worry about.


I whole heartedly agree with this post. In my opinion people who have palstic surgery are just molding themselves into a fake kind of beauty that everyone else finds exceptable. I watched a Koren girl go under the knife because she couldn't stand how wide her cheeck bones where. So she had the surgeon reconstrut her whole face. Which included broking her cheeck bones. Why, because she wanted to look Europen. And that kind of surgery is growing in demand, over in Korea. People are disowning themselves, to look like something they are not. Cosmetic surgery is another form of self hatered, when it becomes excessive, or when it is for the fact that you hate the way your cultural faetuers look. And want to imitate the featuers of another culture, holding it up as the only form of beauty. And not excepting the way you look as beautiful.

[cookiebandit]

i think plastic surgery is what a lot of people turn to if they feel insecure about themselves. i mean there are cases where people may have a little defect with their appearance but unless one's appearance REALLY affects their life, plastic surgery isnt really necessary.

i dont think i would ever want plastic surgery myself only because i think i will regret it when im older. E.G: most asians have plastic surgery to "widen" their eyes, but b/c they weren't naturally born with it, it may lead to some problems in the future.....i dont know.... maybe drooping eyelids or something.

People feel insecure and it'd be better if we can all learn to accept ourselves for who we are. i admit that im not the most prettiest person, but not all of us were meant to model in magazines. but i guess in the end its difficult to accept who we are when we're bombarded with so many media influences

[wil69]

Does it make me a bad person to think its ok for ugly people? Honeslty, I have to admit she is 5x hotter after surgery. I hope she is over 18 in those pictures or I would feel even more guilty.

I agree w/ cookiebandit that ppl who are insecure and have lower self-esteem usually will get surgery to boost their confidence, and thats fine as long as it helps them w/ it. Its really your own body and not someone elses, so you can't really judge. Me? I would get fun big bags to play w/ when im bored ;) jk

[tenshi_dew]

I think what many people forget is that society's ideal of beauty changes. A lot of people nowadays are getting liposuction, yet around 1950's being curvy was seen as good. You could get tons of plastic surgery, change your eyes, nose, chin, boobs, whatever to fit in what today's society deems as 'beautiful' but in 30 or something years, who knows? The ideal beauty could reverse completely.

And not only that, but also the side effects. I've heard of double eyelid surgery gone wrong, resulting the person's eyes being all deformed. Also, in boob jobs, lumps of those silicone sacs (or whatever they put in there) could end up under your armpit in years to come, so another operating is needed to fix the problem.

Also, there's a point when plastic surgery just starts to make a person 'un-human-like'. Think Michael Jackson and his white face and nose (or LACK of nose), and Pamela Anderson with her fake boobs.

[zhy378]

beside the physical negative effects of plastic surgery as tenshi_dew mentioned, there's also the metally side of it. like for females who have plastic surgery when they were young and then have kids, what would their kids react to this? wont those kids feel bad thinking such things like " mom how come im not as pretty as you and i dont look like you or how come i have this big nose while yours and daddy's isnt, am i ugly?, am i adopted? etc" (this can also apply to kids asking their dads since i heard males also go for plastic surgery these days)
and kids especially dont like it when their parents look way younger-good looking than they are. ex) "your mom is soo hott!! :drool: "eww

so before going under the knife, also reconsider for your future and probably ur kids' future as well.

[cookiebandit]

i agree with tenshi_dew. this was exactly one of the points i was thinking of. why should we always follow these beauty ideals to an extreme? we never know what 's considered to be "beautiful" in the future. as much as i hate how f***ing cliche the next line is gonna sound...... i think one timeless quality of "beautiful" is definitely who we are on the inside. As long as we are healthy and we're good ppl, theres a lot to be thankful for and we dont need to "make/force" ppl to like us

[Sugar&Spice]

i agree with tenshi_dew. this was exactly one of the points i was thinking of. why should we always follow these beauty ideals to an extreme? we never know what 's considered to be "beautiful" in the future. as much as i hate how f***ing cliche the next line is gonna sound...... i think one timeless quality of "beautiful" is definitely who we are on the inside. As long as we are healthy and we're good ppl, theres a lot to be thankful for and we dont need to "make/force" ppl to like us

I don't think that sounds like a cliche. I think that inside beauty is exactly what difnes a persons beauty. What you are on the outside dose not make a person who they are.

I have seen women who were pretty. Until I got to see them from the inside and they were the nastiest women you ever want to meet. And all-of-a-sudden they started to look so ugly to me. They were vendictive, hateful, argumentive, nasty, women.

So no matter whether you are slim with the perfect body, or have the most beautiful face, or are the most handsomest man alive.If your nasty on the inside you are ugly, because what you are on the inside will always shine forth.

I think what many people forget is that society's ideal of beauty changes. A lot of people nowadays are getting liposuction, yet around 1950's being curvy was seen as good. You could get tons of plastic surgery, change your eyes, nose, chin, boobs, whatever to fit in what today's society deems as 'beautiful' but in 30 or something years, who knows? The ideal beauty could reverse completely.
And not only that, but also the side effects. I've heard of double eyelid surgery gone wrong, resulting the person's eyes being all deformed. Also, in boob jobs, lumps of those silicone sacs (or whatever they put in there) could end up under your armpit in years to come, so another operating is needed to fix the problem.
Also, there's a point when plastic surgery just starts to make a person 'un-human-like'. Think Michael Jackson and his white face and nose (or LACK of nose), and Pamela Anderson with her fake boobs.

I agree that what is considered beautiful, changes. Because in earlier times,the chinese women used to bind their feet. It was such a painful percejure, that deformed the feet. But it was considered beautiful, to alot of the men back then. But as the generations continued on, it was no longer considered beautiful, and the ones who had their feet bound, were ridiculedand, were offered no work. Alot of them commited suicide, and became outcasts. And they were left deformed, and alone.

So times change, and so dose the idea of beauty. It is foolish to run after a neverending, idae of what is beautiful, and what is not. Expecially, when people have a different, view of beauty. So there is really someone for everyone out here. I would never want to fit in by getting an operation, and risking my life, so that I can conform to peoples warped view of beauty. No way!!

[willywutang]

These days, it seems as though everyone is getting plastic surgery. To tell the truth, there is nothing wrong with plastic surgery. It benefits all kinds if people. But, there comes a point when too much plastic surgery is just plain wrong. A lot of people are getting surgery when they don't really need it. These people just want to get to look prettier or are afraid to accept the fact that they are getting older. There also those that get plastic surgery to look like celebrities and that isn't right. In America, there are girls getting plastic surgery as gifts from parents for graduation. When did this become acceptable as a gift. People should understand that plastic surgery will make you look prettier on the outside but not on the inside. Inside, you are just a fake that feels the need to comform to society.

[countess]

Ok, the topic of Excessive Plastic Surgery, i think is something that not many people will agree upon. I mean, no one wants to have so much plastic surgery that it's damn obvious you've got silicon and god-knows-what shoved everywhere from face to feet. Everything in excess is not good. i'm not against plastic surgery, as in i'll still respect my friends the same way if they decided to go for it.

However, i do know that plastic surgery can be addictive.. there's always that something extra you wish you had. The search for perfection is limitless. Therefore, i don't really support those who go under the knife numerous times, i think it DOES say something about your self esteem then. When it becomes addictives, then it can be more than just an appearance issue, there are definitely underlying issues of confidence or even mental disorders.

[Cybore]

I believe it's her life and she's free to do whatever she pleases with it. It's her choice whether to have the plastic surgery or not.

Though I believe that appearance and first impressions are important, I consider what's on the inside to be of a greater importance (like the previous posters said). If what's on the outside is preventing you from living a desirable and normal life, then plastic surgery would sound more reasonable.

I can't say she looks very good after the surgery. She looks unnatural and scary in some of her pics.

[cookiebandit]

it's not that I'm totally against plastic surgery, its more like I want to question her, WHY?

is she that ashamed of who she is? why? why did she want to go through such an extreme change? she looked perfectly healthy before, soo...? I really need to hear a side b from someone who has had plastic surgery and what they think of it.

but I also hate it when I hear ppl defending their favourite celebrities who has had plastic surgery (again, when they're perfectly healthy). but these are celebrities who mostly have to depend on their looks and personality to get anywhere in the entertainment world. suddenly plastic surgery becomes embraced and defensive. they argue that everyone gets it and its accepted in todays society. (silence) who do you THINK makes it accepted in today's society? so just b/c everyone gets it, makes it acceptable? i understand that these celebrities are always under the scope so they have an insecurity of their outward appearance. but for others, esp. in a society where everybody's conforming, why cant we learn to accept who we are naturally? where is the self-esteem, the pride, the appreciativeness of what our parents gave us? i understand that there are diff. cases and that the temptation is hard to fight....but i hate how "everybody gets it, so its accepted. as long as they feel good about themselves" is used as an arguement. i just want to know why you wouldnt like who you were to begin with. maybe its just that i dont like such a conformist society with all the presure and the "beauty" molds.

[happifruit]

I am extremely against it save for two exceptions. One: serious injury that leaves extreme scars on the face. Two: extreme cases of withdrawl of a person who has negative self-esteem, and even then I'm not too approving.

I believe that the most beautiful people in the world are the ones who have learned to embrace and love everything about themselves. I will never go under the knife. I won't say that I'm pretty; I'm actually pretty regular-looking. However, I look in the mirror everyday and I tell myself: I'm happy with how I look.

I don't agree with such drastic measures to achieve the so-called emotional and psychological boost. No matter how I look at it, it's not true happiness. You're getting it only through adding a layer of plastic to yourself, in truth are you truly happy?

It's different from makeup and braces. To me, the difference is a bunch of stuff surgically implanted onto your face/body, as opposed to something you can wipe off/take out at the end of the day...braces is in a bit of a grey area, but there's a difference in completely restructuring your face permanently and covering it up with something that will come off at the end of the day.

I'm really distressed to see that people now don't hesitate to go under the knife. It's very sad. I think some of you got one of the factors of the problem: the blind worship of anything European and American by many Asian countries, and that makes me the most sad. I've seen gorgeous Asian girls with single eyelids and they're gorgeous because their faces are beautifully Asian. There's nothing wrong with that.

[yan-z4eva]

I think plastic surgery should be reserved only for people born with some kind of handicap where they need surgery to look "normal". also to people who are scarred and, basically, only for people who actually need it. Being beautiful on the outside doesn't count as much as how you are on the inside. Besides, most of the people undergoing plastic surgery aren't even ugly. they only feel that surgery is the only way to boost their confidence.
btw, i'm not saying i hate plastic surgery. i just feel that it is very unnecessary.

[xiaoting]

I'm okay with plastic surgery actually. Now that I think about it, it's okay for a person to go under the knife if he/she has a good reason to. Have ya'll ever seen Extreme Makeover? I mean, there are some girls who are "flat" and who want breasts so that they can actually fit in clothes! I think that's a decent reason to get plastic surgery.
But about the first post in this thread...I think it's disgraceful and horrible! She'd rather be a European than an Asian?! She should be proud of her heritage and culture. That's outrageous. I would NEVER EVER go that far.

[x_rubberduckie]

I think plastic surgery is acceptable to a point. If you get it on a weekly or monthly basis, and it ends up changing your appearance to a point where you don't even look like yourself..then I think it should stop. Other then that, people should be aloud to do what they want for body.

[godfather]

I personally think plastic surgery should be used only to an extent. Where do we draw the line? I think we should have plastic surgery to change the appearance, but use it to combat aging.

There are so many consequences when you change your appearances. You can get married, and your kid looks totally different. Especially if your spouse didn't even know you've had plastic surgery, then he/she finds out afterwards because the baby looked so tedious for some reason, then you're in a load of shithole you can't get out of. Second, if you change your appearances, your friends and family will notice first. Unless they are all notified about this transformation, you'd have to go through a crisis of getting accepted. Third, plastic surgery isn't cheap, nor did its reliability tested. If money's not a problem, fine; but then how do you know how stable your new look is going to be? How are you going to deal with your new look during aging? It's not necessarily a bad thing to spend additional money to repeatedly undergo surgery, but there's multiple factoring risks involved as you go under the knife each additional time.

So, I think, just like the majority of the responses, that it's okay to have plastic surgery, but not excessive, nor to change the looks completely. I think it's good to combat aging problems.

-Peter-

[Gelloy]

Plastic surgery??? No, that’s not OK for me.
God create human with it’s difference that contains the unique parts itself.
So what we can do now as a human is thank to the god and take care what God already gave us as a precious thing.

[stag]

in the end, when it comes down to it, if you really love someone you'd take the good parts and the bad parts, if people feel ugly they can always work out so they can feel good about themselves

[kwonsang26]

I absolutely agree that too much of anything is bad.I understand why some people wants or needs it.But to constantly overdo it like Michael Jackson is ridiculous.

I don't even recognize that man sometimes.Don't get me wrong ,I still have tremendous respect for him as a musician.But as a person,my opinion is different otherwise.

Some people may have been teased for a big nose all their lives or they just want to remove unattractive scars or stretch marks.If you have the money or insurance to cover it & you think it's worth it,then go ahead.

But in the end,it all comes down to how much self-confidence,security,& love you have for yourself.Or else many people will just keep getting plastic surgery out of insecurity.^^

[r3d3mption]

That is quite scary considering so many people are getting boob jobs and such to enhance their looks, I think its a waste of money I'd rather donate it to a charity or something to fight cancer. I mean seriously what happens if a complication happens or if you die soon after surgery possibly from other things then what was the point? You enjoyed like a couple years of your life, when can't you just ignore the fact and have fun with your life. Having plastic surgery really puts me off girls even if they look heaps more beautiful, people who are this emotionally weak also fall into depression and other various mental instabilities so no offence I just don't think plastic surgery is a good idea no matter for what reason except when you need plastic surgery because of an accident so you might as well enhance your look :). Apart from that I wouldn't see plastic surgery as a benefit for humans.

[vitaminjaychou]

im ok with it but i just wont do it. also i cant believe enchancing your butt is now something more "in"

[thenbagamer]

plastic surgery is fine if its just the boobs or losing weight. otherwise, its ridiculous. def dont change eye color, that is ugly

[r3d3mption]

I agree with thenbanger lol too much plastic surgery just ruins natural beauty.
This girl in Australia was ugly before plastic surgery but afterwards she became a model after several plastic surgeries however her face looks so fake especially with the orientation and such. Its just not natural guys.

[Peach_happo]

i wouldnt mind a little surgery here and there..
like for example, minor eyelid surgery etc.
just as long as you admit it and you dont start being a hippocrite
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and dont overdo it either....its fake!! yuck...
sometimes the surgeries could make you look worse and im not sure if i would ever want to risk it..lol

[hobielover]

I seriously don't get why anyone would want to look more European, but maybe that's just me. I think East Asians actually look pretty, and I think single eyelids are kind of cute. Having double eyelids isn't really glamorous. Trust me, I have them because I'm white. From what I've seen, Asian people seem to age better than Caucasians. Think of it as an advantage, not a flaw in your beauty. My skin will wrinkle more quickly than a Chinese person's skin, I think. It's not really something you want to imitate.

Being Chinese isn't something to be ashamed of, whether you're in an area with a high Chinese population or not. I went to a school where whites were the minority. People were mean to me for my race. I got over it and went on with my life. The way you look is only your appearance. If you're a good person, people will see that, not just the way your eyelids fold or the shape of your nose. If you're young and you want to find the right guy, the right guy isn't going to care about how you look. If he does, he just isn't the right guy. The only difference it'll make will be on superficial people, not good friends.

Now, if you get in a car accident and your face melts, then I think it'd be a good idea to get plastic surgery. It's not like you're trying to get away from your natural looks then, just try to hide the disfigurement. Otherwise, it's your body. Live with it.

The only things I've had changed about my looks have been getting braces, getting 4 teeth cut out because they didn't fit in my mouth and they'd knock out the rest of my molars (I have to be able to eat!), and dying my hair on occasion to just see how it would look. Of course, I only dyed it colors that I thought would look natural. I have natural highlights and natural bits of different colors (red and darker brown) in my hair, so it didn't look weird to have highlights or dye my hair a rather normal red.