State of the forums [new ones added, old ones removed]

[jayx8318x]

This thread will keep everyone updated on what new forums have been suggested so people won't suggest the same forum 500 times.

THESE ARE ALL TENTATIVE, NOTHING IS WRITTEN IN STONE.
If you feel something should not be added or removed, voice your opinion!


EDIT: Read this post for the current blueprint of the new JCNET (http://www.jay-chou.net/forums/showthread.php?p=654672#post654672)


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TO BE ADDED

Artist Spotlight
suggested by: twilighthush
Status: Pending, most likely approved


I think one of the biggest reasons why there has been a decrease in Jay's popularity is mostly because he hasn't come out with anything spectacularly new or exciting, but with his slew of movies and with an upcoming album, that might help out considerably. But time and time again, usually newer artists steal the spotlight because they're so new, and people want to know more about them.

So perhaps, you might want to consider creating a Spotlight Forum within JCNET for new artists?



Along with a spotlight on an actual artist, we can feature spotlights on JCNET members as well since we have lots of singers, artists and writers here.



Newbie Forum
suggested by: ColaPoP
Status: Pending, most likely approved


This sub-forum I imagine will be an utter mess (to begin with at least) lol... but it's one where newbies can learn how to interact on a forum, and meet other newbies who are in the same boat as them. There can be 2 sub-forums within this. Posts in this sub-forum will not count, and one cannot be de-repped in there (if they have been clearly offensive or are out to stir trouble, they may as well be banned at that point (pick out the trouble-makers early on)

Basically this will be a learning-playground. Where their actions won't really count, where regular members can drop in and help out (and HAVE to be nice!), and most importantly, the newbie/noobie behaviour can be closely watched and contained. They are free to venture into other sub-forums when they feel confident, but will not be baby-ed beyond that point, and they will have to accept responsibility for their actions henceforth.


I Don't Know Where to Post This Forum
suggested by: me
Status: Pending, I'm not sure if it's really that necessary, what do you guys think?


Since people are scared to post bc they're not sure where to post and don't want to be yelled at, they can create it here and a mod will move it to the appropriate place. It'll help develop better posting habits and other members will be able to use the topics as examples if they're unsure where to post things as well



I'm Afraid to Ask an Admin/Mod Forum
suggested by: me
Status: Pending, I'm not sure if it's really that necessary, what do you guys think?


A forum where people can ask/suggest things to the mods/admins specifically (as oppose to the general forum as a whole), in public since they are afraid to PM us.
We can make it very friendly where the mods/admins are required to be nice and required to respond. And we won't yell at you no matter how stupid the question/suggestion. We can "decorate" the forum (banners like social group ads) to give a "friendlier" feel.

Wow has it really come to this, are people that deathly afraid of us? It could also serve as a place where the general members can get to know the mods/admins better.









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TO BE REMOVED

Small Talk (most likely split up into multiple forums)
Jay Videos, Jay Music, Jay Works (to be consolidated into Jay Multimedia)
Jay Picture Gallery (a new gallery module may be added instead)

[littlefishie]

Personally, I think the polls forum is kinda useless... It basically consists of really long threads where the replies all state the same thing. There is no real interaction going on. People just post what they picked and move on, and they don't actually discuss anything. And I believe that a lot of the poll questions are already being discussed in other parts of the forums.

[friends_pt]

By looking at the current state of what our forum have, the following are the list of things which i think should be removed and not removed:

To be removed:
Small talk
Polls

International Forum (probably all talks in international forum can be added to current issues & debate going on in their country)

Not to be removed:
Jay news
Jay discussion
Jay multimedia
Jay Gallery

without the above not to be removed items, i think it's kind of pointless to have JC.net though that's not the only objective of JC.net but that's one of the purpose of the site beside interaction between members.

[milkified]

I think Small Talk, Polls and Current Issues & Debate can be put under the same category since they have the same thing in common, chat and interaction. I don't think it should be removed completely.

[judes]

i was thinking perhaps a section within a "Discussion" forum for something like "Current Issues & Debate" where only MATURE debate is acceptable, because that was one of my favourite things about this forum and i don't really like the idea of blending everything with small talk. and the debate threads are fairly active too when they are things people feel passionately about.

[wanie_jay]

for me, personally...

to be removed

Small talk
Polls
Discussion

there are so many polls that one can created, and some don't really make sense....and if it this thread wants to stay, how about if they're only allowed to vote, and no postings. for me, i just want to see the stats, not what others think.

the discussion thread just seems to me, an imaginary thread, where you give me a situation, and i'll give u my reaction. i don't see anything informative in this thread...

hope it helps

[ColaPoP]

Artist Spotlight:
I still prefer the focus to be on Jay Chou (and not diverge into too many other artists), but I like the idea of spotlighting members... this kinda reminds me of VIP induction thread. Oh yeah... MotM. Very similar...

Newbie Forum:
Amazing idea. The bomb yo~ *chuckle*

I Don't Know Where to Post This Forum:
Perhaps this can be made as a [Guide to] stickie in the newbie forum? That, and if they still don't know how... there can be a sub-forum for this in the newbie sub so it can be easily found, and re-located.

I'm Afraid to Ask an Admin/Mod Forum
Hahaha... funny the way you worded that. I think you forgot to add 'deadly afraid'.
Edit: I deleted the link I gave previously. I'm not sure this forum is necessary. We will all focus on being 'nicer', but I wonder if people will always treat those in power with a little suspicion.

[kirasuran]

hmm...

i think that the forums where ppl from their own countries gather shoudl remain, cos that definitely helps.

i think that the "games forum" should be at least cleaned up, EG delete it all and then just restart the thing, cos i dont think its completely useless, its jus...dead right now.

[jaychou_21]

^ Yeah, I agree with that. The Fun and Games section have been stale in the past months. When you go there, it's not like the Fun and Games forums at all.

I'm not in favor of the removal of the Polls section because it's more active and fun than the Fun and Games forums. I think it should remain. And I also think that Small Talk can just be a sub-forum under the General Discussions / Social Lounge.

I'm Petrified to Ask an Admin / Mod Forum
^ I'm in favor of this one. It will make everyone (especially the new members) feel lighter towards the mods, to change their perception of the VIPs' formidable image. I would also like to suggest a VIPs on the spotlight sub-forum for the admins / mods / VIPs under that one, where the general members can interact with the mods and ask them questions regarding the site at the same time. This will pave the way for the members to get up close and personal with the senior members so they'll feel more welcomed to the forums and not run away and never to come back again once they commit a mistake.

[twilighthush]

Jay Videos, Jay Music, Jay Works (to be consolidated into Jay Multimedia) <- I don't agree with this. Having the distinct separation really helps with organization. Personally I feel it's better if we leave it the way it is.

[judes]

yes i think the games forum should be cleaned up, but i don't know, it's also kind of fun the way we have it now.

the jay fan-works forum to be changed to all inclusive fan forums?
it's already like that anyway, but i think we can make it so that it's more "acceptable" to post everything under the sun. we can also run contests there as well that can have members / stories / karaoke / art that is featured in the spotlight forum.

i like the international forums though, and the current subforum system, but there are a lot of things that could be expanded within it that other members have worked on in the past like a "national pride theme week" or perhaps a "get to know this country" theme week that member scould participate in, etc.

[dagamezmasta]

Like Judes stated, I'd really like to see "Issues and Debates" separated from other chat/interaction forums like "Small Talk" or whatever it'll become. Mature discussion is not really prevalent these days and it's amazing when you can stumble across a place like the "Current Issues and Debates" forum.
And like some other people said... polls don't really seem to be too important. It's just sort of a "vote for your option because you're bored and you wanna see the statistics." But there isn't really any use. The problem is, if you take away polls, some people might get bored because there are also those people who are crazy about polls. So, I'm not sure what to do with the polls forum, even if it's not exactly needed. But there are people who love it, and taking it away might mean less fun --> therefore less activity? :oops:

[judes]

^ well polls can be integrated into any post, right? we can even put them in a general discussion place as long as there isn't a sudden upsurge of polls in the discussion forum.

something we can look at is moninet (a big taiwanese bbs), it's in chinese though: http://bbs.moninet.com.tw/board/

it's extremely active and there are new posts in almost every forum every single day. but the forums are quiet specific and perhaps not quite what we're looking for except i think we can learn from them in that they are a general forum that works and are well organized. of course there's problems with one-liners, but perhaps we CAN allow one liners in certain areas of the forum to make it more user friendly.

examples of their forums:
admin (questions / comments, organization, help forum about q's of the site)
technology (electronics, communication, computers, software, bt, networking, programming, webpage design, webpage info, desktop)
fun & games (pictures, chatting, celeb galleries, funny pictures, jokes, ghost stories, gaming, sports, quizzes, manga/anime, pets, puppet show)
art (society, antiques, classic literature, web literature, personal works, feelings, relationships, 18+, photography, history)
life (transportation, health, cooking, society news, chinese/western astrology, nature, astronomy, biology, tourism, fashion, finance)
pop culture (celebs, music, lyrics, movies)

some of the forums that we may want to think about bringing in:
relationships/advice forum. this is one of the topics that is constantly being brought up in the forums, and perhaps to separate them from general discussion we can put this in its own forum.
feelings forum. this could be one of the places where people are allowed to "talk about themselves" and write things like diary entries about their day within a thread and others can respond?

i'm not sure how we want to expand jcnet to include other celebrities, but we can always have a general celebrity news forum like the jay news one we have now except with taiwanese / korean / japanese celebs so that people can read about the celebs they're interested in. the problem is that the news will constantly be updated so that perhaps more than one mod will be needed to maintain this forum, but it'll be one of those forums with really quick turnovers where people can get english news about their fav celebs. (this is in addition to subforums about individual celeb discussion, this will be general like contest news or "so and so was seen with so and so")

do we want to have a separate "picture galleries" forum for celeb pictures where only pictures are allowed to be posted and people can just go in and find pictures that they want. i find those really helpful especially if you want to rpg and if you key in 'asian' all you'll find is pr0n :(

cooking / food forum. those threads have been quite abundant lately and maybe we can group them all into one forum so if you're ever hungry and need some pictures to make you hungrier or to satsify your craving, you can go there. you can also share recipes there too.

we don't want to be TOO detailed with the forums or else there would be like one or two posts per day, but i think if we want to reach to a wider audience, we have to expand and be active in being diverse about what we want to see in the forum and what topics we can talk about.

these are all suggestions, i know someone will probably disagree with my suggestions, but keep the ideas coming!

[twilighthush]

SUGIZOLOVE.com has its own forums, and though the site is a fansite for the artist, Sugizo, it also has actual individual forums for everything that's related to Sugizo, such as projects like LUNA SEA, The FLARE, FAKE?, Tourbillon, etc. These are all spinoff projects.

However, taking that thought and expanding on it, maybe we can have actual artists forums, not just a thread. Maybe we can have a large forum for just Chinese/Taiwanese artists and their own individual forums. Leehom, for example, is someone who should have one (that's larger than the one he currently has and a little more organized). The same goes for Japanese and Korean artists. This will definitely help increase activity across the boards. I know there is an Asian Celebrities forum but, I personally feel this should be expanded a loooot more.

Maybe a forum specifically designated just for Dramas with Taiwanese/Chinese/Japanese/Korean subforums in it might work too. That way we have more organization.

Obviously the Spotlight thing will help shed new light on new artists. And of course, there can be little spotlights for the JCNET members. I think it'd be cute to have a Spotlight of the Month type thing, that introduces/sheds light on a new artist to JCNET. It might be a cute/fun thing to do.

I think maybe we should also make a universal BUY/SELL/TRADE forum for people who would like to exchange merchandise and things that aren't just related to Jay. I know there is one for Jay, but it might be good to have one for everything.

[junnleenfaah]

the only forum that i think should be taken away is the polls forum. i honestly think people just make up new polls to boost their post count. and a good amount of these polls are just variations of "name A v.s name B. who do you like better?"

what forums could be revised:
-small talk
-social lounge
-fun & games

i think these two forums listed above are getting way too messy nowadays. i sorta like judes's idea of a forum for food/cooking. maybe it doesnt necessarily need it's own forum, but it could go as a subforum for small talk. because there's been so many new creations of food threads [how ppl can talk about specific types of food in so much detail.. i have no idea, it makes me wonder], it's sorta getting out of hand.

i also like judes's idea of a relationships/advice forum since a lot of that goes on in the social lounge. i think that'd be a great addition.

one thing i think should be taken into consideration is the use of the random topics thread. i think that thread has been taken for granted because everybody has random conversations in the group social lounges. i think these conversations and discussions could all go on in the random topics thread. i think the purpose of the group social lounges has been ignored, for most of it. yes, there are some non-group members who go to the group threads and chat w. group members to see if they like that group, but a majority of the posts in there are like 10 differenct conversations going on between a few people, and it's not talk to see if they believe this group fits them or not, it's just random conversation. that could go in the random topic thread.

for the fun and games forum, i dont exactly know how we could revise it, but it does need some cleaning up to do. right now, to me, it just seems a little disorganized. maybe subforums for particular types of games and discussion on sports?

[twilighthush]

Going on the entire track of the Relationships/Advice Forum idea, I think it might be good to have a team of "Peer Leaders" or something like that, who really wouldn't mind not just giving advice on the forums, but actually having one-on-one conversations via AIM, MSN, PM, whatever, with members who really need someone to talk to but don't feel comfortable blasting their problems to the entire forum.

It might help out some people on here.

[junnleenfaah]

oh yeah, another topic i forgot to mention:

what should stay the same:
-all jay related forums
-non-jay related downloads forum
-current issues and debates

i think we should keep the format of the Jay Downloads & Links forum. i know the idea of putting everything in a Jay Multimedia was suggested, but i personally dont like the idea. i like the idea that the subforums for jay videos, music, and works are only accesible to the JCNET Regulars because if it was all put into a public forum, there'd just be a huge amount of leechers who arent correctly and legally supporting jay. i love how JCNET orders a strict call for purchasing REAL jay merchandise. i think that the jay music, videos and works should be kept to JCNET Regulars because they know better to not take advantage of what goodies have been provided to them.

also, i dont think i really like the idea of having seperate subforums for celebs. the only celebs that i feel deserve their own subforums are Wang Leehom, Jolin Tsai and Shinhwa [i mean, seriously, they're on part 14 of their thread. i think that tells you something right there] but as for music groups and other celebs, i dont think it's necessary. like the recent dispute over having a S.H.E subforum. i really dont think it's necessary at all just because there general thread for S.H.E doesnt move that quickly and there's not that much info to share on S.H.E either. we should keep the forums/subforums to individual artists to a limit because then it'd sorta defeat the purpose of being a JAY forum if people visit the other artist forums more.

[aznjayhunter]

^i also dont want the Jay music, videos and works blended in with Jay multimedia. its true, a massive amount of leechers and idiots would hover of the forum just for downloads.

and may i suggest that we refresh all the briefcase links in the music, video and works forums? about 95% of them are dead or no longer existing.

also, i really like the idea of the I don't know where to post forum. i think you should really make it.

[zhy378]

out of the ones being added, i love the idea of the 'newbie forum', that'll be a great practice and preparation for them

I Don't Know Where to Post This Forum- this one, im kind of iffy on it, it can be helpful but then it will be short, like theres not much to talk on it unless there's a dabate on some certain threads on its whereabouts. other than that it is great to have examples especially if some can be in two forums or something.

i feel like parts of small talks can be break up into multiple forums like technology gagets , girl issues, etc

and the thing with the polls, i love making and participating in them but sometimes it just seems like some threads already made are also/can be polls too.

beside the fun and games section being revised, i think the artists & celebrities list needs to be revised as well.

[judes]

pei and i were talking and she suggested the idea of an asian forum that's along the lines of the international forum but with the focus on asia. and in it will be sub forums of singapore, malaysia, thailand, taiwan, etc. since those asian forums are extremely active in the international forums.

since we're a site about a taiwanese artist, we both thought it was surprising there was no forum for talking about taiwan! so if not an asian forum, then perhaps a taiwan forum where people can learn more about the country jay is from!

[jayx8318x]

I've read through most of the suggestions so far, and decided to sit down and actually draw the blueprint for it so it'd be easier for people to visualize. It was more difficult than I thought.

I do want the site to expand with some more forums, but I don't want it to be so overwhelming where it REALLY gets difficult to know where to post something.

Like with judes's idea above, how would anyone decide whether to post in the International > Singapore forum or the Asian > Singapore forum :wacko:

Here's what I came up with, excuse my scribbles. When I get a better idea based on more input I'll get a nice pretty drawing up.

Page 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/jayhottypants/forums1.jpg) | Page 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/jayhottypants/forums2.jpg)
(In NO WAY is this final or near final, your input and suggestions are highly valued)

Some points I want to make:

I know the people who want to be in charge of translation or spotlight forum might have visualized it to be a group of forums/subforums that would be clustered together. That may not be the case because I have to keep it in some kind of order that makes sense.

So for example if you're modding the translation related forums, you will be in charge of Jay News, all the Translation forums, then jump down further to the Entertainment News > Asian forum.
So I hope that makes sense.

Now for the Translation forums.
JCNET SST Headquarters will be for those that are part of the translation team. They can take subbing requests, discuss current, future projects, etc.

Language Institution, I'm at a lost at this for now. People will want lyrics translations for sure, maybe someone will need a poem, brochure, whatever translated too. And some people may have questions about learning a particular language. I guess that was my vision for this forum.

JCNET Subbing. I shouldn't have called it that. It should be a forum for OFFICIAL releases by the JCNET SST team. Whether it's subs, articles, whatever.


Concerning the Spotlight forums, I had seen twilighthush make up 4-5 forums, but for now I think only 2 are really necessary. If we see a need to expand then we can do so in the future. Otherwise we'll have 5 forums with 10-15 threads max for the next few months. Not that great a way to spend vertical page space.

About the Social forums, Small Talk will in essence become the main social lounge. Current Issues / Debate will now turn into a "mature discussions" forum for people who want to discuss something serious.

For the Boys/Girls forum, I wasn't sure whether to place forums such as Fashion, Shopping, Video Games, etc...so that's why I created these two forums. However, now I realize how sexist it sounds, but I can't think of a better way to distinguish them. Girls DO like to shop more than guys. Guys DO like to play video games more than girls. I'm sure most guys will never want to read topics on "Help, my menstrual cramps hurt!" and girls would probably glaze over "What kind of rims should I get for my car" topics.

For gender neutral topics like cooking, it can go in the Small Talk forum.

Jay Buying/Selling now becomes Member Networking/ Connections. So not only can you buy sell trade stuff, you can ask stuff like where to get A, do you know anyone that works at B, what's there to do in C type questions.

Polls and Fun & Games now combined into the Playground forums. I don't want to get rid of the polls forum entirely because I just don't like seeing polls anywhere else mixed in with regular topic titles, it just looks ugly.

Suggestions please!
(And a drawing will help)

[ker_ai_teresa]

How about a tech related sub-froum?

At the moment, people who have questions or problems about their PCs, DLing programs, anti-virus software, etc, are posting them in the Help/Feedback forum, which should really only contain questions and feedback about the site itself.
with a separate tech sub-forum, discussions about the latest gadgets and software and what have you can go in there as well rather than in Small Talk or the Social Lounge.

it'll help to make things neater.

[judes]

^ yes tech forums are helpful, because we can focus help/feedback strictly for the site and the other tech forums for general computer / internet help etc. will this go under "boy" forums though hahahaha.

i'm not sure how i feel about the separation of boy/girl forums, because i can see newbies go "omg if i'm a girl am i not allowed to post in the BOYS forum" etc.

we can always have a "technology" section simply (where everybody would know it is a "boys" forum but it's not named for that) and we can put the tech forums, the video game forums, the car forums etc in here, and maybe a boy forum if guys have really specific questions they want to ask each other.
and then we can have a "fashion" section for shopping, make up, and maybe a girl-talk forum for those girl related problems.

and then neutral forums can be cooking, relationships, etc.

but maybe that wouldn't make sense in the whole scheme of things, i don't know.

the suggestion for the Asian Forums was to take all of the asian countries out of the international forums and set it up as their own forum so that we can place a focus on "asian" things. i know i would LOVE to talk about asian stuff with people online because unfortunately english forums are lacking in those, or they're run by caucasian people who only go to the touristy areas. because the asian countries are close to each other and i know people who live in taiwan often go to singapore for vacation or perhaps people in malaysia often go to thailand for vacation, we can actually put people in touch and show them which are the "non tourist" places to visit, or perhaps where the great restaurants are, or where the great stores are.

(i just really really want a taiwan forum *cough* i don't even care if i have to mod it and run it and take responsibility. i just want a taiwan forum. *stomps around* hahahaha.)

[twilighthush]

This looks good to me, for the most part.

As for the Spotlights, I understand what you mean entirely, Karen and agree with it. I hope I can be a part of the Art Studio, Music Lounge, and Reading Room, also! Maybe instead of having forums for those three, we can have a spotlight sticky thread that's in those forums. That way, if one day it gets big enough, it can split off into its own forum? <3

Just an idea. ^-^v

[lattae]

how about this:
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Sorry, no scanner and my phone camera is quite crap :shy:


I just thought that since we are repositioning ourselves to cater to asia entertainment, we should put the entertainment section next to Jay's to give it a more eye grabbing position.

I was thinking also that there wasn't a "need" for english news (it won't be original anyway), so we only need the news under the asian>translation forum. Maybe we can focus all the translate into a "broadcast" platform.

For some reason I feel that the newbie's little cozy corner should be with the rest of the socialising subforum. Then I factored in the "tech forum" idea by teresa and judes.

As it is... it's a FREAKING LONG LIST! I think we've come t a stage whereby we have to ask ourselves if we really need anymore?

[twilighthush]

Waaa, lattae has such nice handwriting. I'm not even going to make an attempt at this, my handwriting is worse than chickenscratch.

I really like the Member Showcase idea that you have! I think it's great to have it all in one section like that, as opposed to just "Fan Works". It feels a little better that way, for some reason.

Instead of using the word "clinic", which seems a little too hospital-like, how about "studio"? ^_^

[une_topaze]

I Don't Know Where to Post This Forum& I'm Afraid to Ask an Admin/Mod Forum will fit nicely as two of the threads in Newbies Forum. As it was conceived to help out newbies, they don't have to run around the forum just to clarify a confuzzlement and ended up posting in the wrong forum.


Here's my idea for the entertainment subforum.. Will something like this be easier to mod although there will be many subforums within subforums? Unfortunately, it will be challenging for non DSL users to access a particular thread coz they have to click on so many links in order to get to news (6 links XD).
We can do it by region (Asia and International) or by Genre (Music, Movies & Dramas and Pictures, just like Soompi)
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By region (Asia and International)

ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > CHINESE > music > JIE LUN > PICTURES
ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > CHINESE > music > JIE LUN > NEWS
ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > CHINESE > music > JIE LUN > ALBUM DLs & Translations
ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > CHINESE > music > LEEHOM > PICTURES
ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > CHINESE > music > LEEHOM > NEWS
ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > CHINESE > music > LEEHOM > ALBUM DLs & Translations
ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > CHINESE > movies & dramas > INITIAL D, METEOR GARDEN threads
ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > CHINESE > movies & dramas > actors >ZHAO WEI, TONY LEUNG threads
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It will be a little different for Korean entertainment subforum as we dont have any subforum dedicated to a particular star. It will look like this:
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ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > KOREAN & JAPANESE> music > SHINHWA, SMAP threads
ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > KOREAN & JAPANESE> music > album dls > SHINHWA, SMAP threads
ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > KOREAN & JAPANESE > music> pictures > SHINHWA,BI,SEVEN threads
ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > KOREAN & JAPANESE > movies & dramas > TRAIN MAN, GOONG threads
ENTERTAINMENT > ASIAN > KOREAN & JAPANESE> movies & dramas > actors >SONG HYE KYO, KIMURA TAKUYA threads
- All pictures will be posted in picture subforum in its threads just like what we do now in Korean Subforum instead of creating individual thread for every new pictures.
- Album DLs will follow the current format in Download and Links

ENTERTAINMENT> INTERNATIONAL > Music > James Blunt, Britney Spears threads
ENTERTAINMENT> INTERNATIONAL > Movies > CSI, SUPERMAN RETURNS threads
ENTERTAINMENT> INTERNATIONAL > Movies > Actors> JOHNNY DEPP, ANGELINA JOLIE threads
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By Genre (Music, Movies & Dramas and Pictures)


ENTERTAINMENT > MUSIC > CHINESE> JIE LUN > NEWS
ENTERTAINMENT > MUSIC > CHINESE > JIE LUN > ALBUM DLs & Translations
ENTERTAINMENT > MUSIC > CHINESE >LEEHOM > NEWS
ENTERTAINMENT > MUSIC > CHINESE > LEEHOM > ALBUM DLs & Translations
ENTERTAINMENT > MUSIC > KOREAN & JAPANESE > SHINHWA thread
ENTERTAINMENT > MUSIC > KOREAN & JAPANESE > ALBUM DLS
ENTERTAINMENT > MUSIC > INTERNATIONAL> COLDPLAY thread
ENTERTAINMENT > MUSIC > INTERNATIONAL> ALBUM DLS
- Album DLs will follow the current format in Download and Links
ENTERTAINMENT > MOVIES & DRAMAS > CHINESE> INITIAL D, METEOR GARDEN threads
ENTERTAINMENT > MOVIES & DRAMAS > CHINESE > ACTORS > ZHAO WEI, TONY LEUNG threads
ENTERTAINMENT > MOVIES & DRAMAS > KOREAN & JAPANESE> TRAIN MAN, GOONG threads
ENTERTAINMENT > MOVIES & DRAMAS> KOREAN & JAPANESE > ACTORS >SONG HYE KYO, KIMURA TAKUYA threads
ENTERTAINMENT > MOVIES & DRAMAS > INTERNATIONAL> CSI, SUPERMAN RETURNS threads
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Ah,,,, the second option is simpler come to think of it :sweat:

[ker_ai_teresa]

thanx for outlining your suggestions for us Lyne. ^^

at the moment, I have to say that it looks a tad bit messy though. Like you said, too many sub-forums within each other and too many links to click on.
for example, with the Korean entertainment sub-forum (by region), I don't think we need to separate the artistes' discussion thread, DLs and pictures into sub-forums. we can probably leave it the way we have it now. so example, Shinhwa will have a discussion thread, picture thread and DL thread in the one korean music thread. the same would go for the other korean artistes.
I just think it'll be more user friendly, seeing that at the moment, there are only a handful of artistes being discussed so we can still keep things together neatly.

so if I had to pick I'd pick the By Region categorisation, just without so many sub-forums. :happy:

[une_topaze]

Yeah, I actually prefer doing it by region. The reason why there's so many subforum is because it's much more organised. Initially I thought of doing it only for Chinese entertainment but one thing lead to another,,,, :oops:

I have to confess while outlining the subforums I already see that it's way, way too many especially for Korean & Japanese forum. Since it took me quite a while to type it out, I'm lazy to edit it again >.<

Let's just use the current format where everthing will be lump together for Korean and Japanese. It will be easier on everyone ^^

[spax]

How about this:

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Sorry if my handwriting is too small.. ><

My suggestions are as follows:

All about Jay

Jay news:
For the current Music/Concert news subforum, it would be better if we change it to Career. It would be more appropiate because besides music, Jay seems to be focusing more on acting in movies as well as directing MVs recently. So, a subforum for news on his career would be more organized than having only music/concert news in it. It would be more troublesome to find news about his acting/directing/whatever among the general news, in which quite a number of news are unreliable.

Jay discussion:
Similar reason as above.

Jay gallery:
It would be more organized to have the pics seperated in categories, like album/movie pics, commercial pics (Pepsi, Metersbonwe, etc), major events, news & magazines and others. The present gallery is quite messed up without any categorisation.

Jay Multimedia:
For the featured downloads, be split into two sections: audio and video.

Entertainment

Dramas:
Quite surprised to see that the two proposals by Karen and Lattae did not include dramas in the entertainment section. There should be a section dedicated for drama addicts, where they can discuss about latest dramas. Similar to the drama threads in the present entertainment forum. Will be split into Chinese, Korean and Japanese dramas for better organization.

Downloads and links:
Split into Chinese, Korean, Japanese and Others for better organization and navigation through the section. Request forum to be remained as one.

Socializing Hub

Small Talk:
Split into different subforums for different types of topics. Depends on the popularity of the type of topics.

Socializing Group interaction:
For the six socializing group threads as well as activities that different groups may organize, such as games and voting, etc.

Study centre
Since quite a majority of us are still studying, getting ready for exams like O Levels, SPM, SAT or whatever, it would be great if we can have a forum for this group of people (me included) to study together as a group on different subjects, like providing informative notes, knowledge, websites, solutions to problems, etc.

[jayx8318x]

I like lattae's idea for the Asia forum, that makes ALOT more sense. And I like having the translation subforum in there instead of having Translation be it's own main forum. It just seemed outta place in my original rough draft.

And I like the way the member's showcase forums are laid out too.

I didn't think we really needed a tech forum? Do we really ask that many techy questions?

And I like spax's idea of having a study hall/homework help section seeing as we DO have many students here. People complain of not being able to visit because of school, maybe if we add that section they'll at least come since it caters to their current need. Yes JCNET, ruining grades since 2002 :shifty:

[aznjayhunter]

I dont think we need a technology place. People rarely make posts in the existing one =/

I think the Study Centre idea from spax is a good idea also. (would it be misleading for our parents to see that we are studying online? haha maybe they would think we're doing something other than studying? :angel: but its a good idea anyway)

doing the entertainment by region is much more orgainized in my opinion. and agreeing to Lattae's point, there are a tad bit too many sub-forums. but it seems pretty hard to reduce the number of sub-forums...

[deejay0103]

I agree with the new thread like I Don't Know Where to Post This Forum suggested by jayx8318x. Many members are afraid to post something new because they scared that they might end up being yell by the admin/mods. I think this thread is necessary.

The Jay Videos, Jay Music, Jay Works should remain the same. If its consolidated into Jay Multimedia, wouldnt the whole section be packed and a little messy? :oops: If its consolidated there will be more leechers around JCNET just to get free DL of Jay without contributing. I also agree with aznjayhunter to refresh and post a re-up for some of the link in the Jay's DL corner. Most of the links are dead. I don't mind helping out to post a re-up link for the DL.

Same as the rest. I think that the Polls and Fun and Games section should be removed. Some of the polls are similar. As for the Fun and Games section, it's quite inactive there. And of course, some of the thread there just scares people away instead for being fun. :sweat:

Oh, I like the study centre idea from spax too. :laughing:

[cuso4]

actually as for the tech forum, the thing isn't about the thread moving, but i think some of us just refer to it for techy answers, which people have already answered.

for example you wanna know how to do a screencap from real player, or to extract audio from video... coz as for me, i've grown a habit of coming to JCNET to check on such stuff instead of googling about it coz JCNET is reliable like that.

so probably it can be put somewhere as an archive or inserted in as a subforum where people can check when they need them answers... (if it's ever possible coz i'm a forum-noob like that)

actually as for the Study Centre, i think it sounds reasonable... but we'll really have to make sure its a homework help place or else it'll probably just probably just dwelve into another 'let's talk about our schools and how sucky the education system is' talk.

i see a JCNET SST forum! :excited: will we be subbing just jay-related stuff?

... or anything is possible? *coughlikeGOONGcough* :rolleyes:

[lattae]

I think a tech forum is good like cuso4 says to "file away" all our tech solutions. It's like I often return to JCnet to just get links for winRAR when I reformat my com, check out how to extract audio, do screencap on WMP.... you know, things you may forget after not doing it for a while. Plus from time to time, we do have the "spyware" questions, and new software stuff... yeah... it may not be the most "active" subforum, but at least we can direct someone there when they need tech advice.

The School-related talk is interesting. Why can't it be under "socialising"? I don't think it needs a forum on it's own, it can probably be a subforum. My only concern is that whether we will get constructive talk going or will it turn into a rant all you want about the teachers/school system.

Yes JCNET, ruining grades since 2002 :shifty:
We're not doing that bad... Many of us graduated while spending the bulk of our time here :angel:

i see a JCNET SST forum! :excited: will we be subbing just jay-related stuff?
... or anything is possible? *coughlikeGOONGcough* :rolleyes:
We ARE trying to shift our focus from Jay, so ... I suppose Goonging is fine :rolleyes:

[jayx8318x]

My only concern is that whether we will get constructive talk going or will it turn into a rant all you want about the teachers/school system.


I thought that would be OK? :?
I mean it would be everything related to school under the sun. "Where to go to uni?" "What professor should I take?" "What should I major in?" "My teacher sucks!" "2xy+4ab=6xb? HELP!" you know, those types of topics.

I know that when I was out of school for a while, it annoyed me to see "school" related topics in the social lounge. Mainly because it reminded me how my blisstering youth was OVER and I was in the "real" world now...cold cruel world. Anyways, I agree it should be a subforum under social, but not in social itself.

What do you guys thnk about having an "Anti-X' forum under Entertainment? Everyone likes "something" but deep down there are "things" we are strongly against as well. It can be where people, I hate to say the word "bash" but basically that's it, celebs/movies/books/etc. they despise. I've seen it in another forum and it's actually quite interesting.

Speaking of which, do we KEEP the Jolin and Leehom forum or not?

[macdawn]

What do you guys thnk about having an "Anti-X' forum under Entertainment? Everyone likes "something" but deep down there are "things" we are strongly against as well. It can be where people, I hate to say the word "bash" but basically that's it, celebs/movies/books/etc. they despise. I've seen it in another forum and it's actually quite interesting. It sounds good! I have this ONE person already in mind :shifty:
*runs around to gather my antifanclub members*

The fans of the "X" will have to avert their eyes to something more soothing to their eyes, like *coughNakedJaycough*
:bleh:

Speaking of which, do we KEEP the Jolin and Leehom forum or not?
You mean for the subforum, or the "Anti-X" forum? :whistle:

-MacDawn

[seaweedpatchkid]

You mean for the subforum, or the "Anti-X" forum?


I think we should keep the anti-x forum. It's entertaining.

[lattae]

An "anti-x" forum sounds good.

If we are going to have dedicated space for translated news, maybe we don't need a dedicated forum for Leehom and Jolin. too many subforums to handle. The news and DLs can go to the respective forums, general discussion under the artiste. Perhaps we can implement the "repeat the first post" thing for all the celebs forum, then the fans who'd want to set up those threads can place the links to the news/DL thread in the first post?

Will that work :?

[stitchphil]

I have this ONE person already in mind :shifty:
*runs around to gather my antifanclub members*

:lolabove: I know who you're refering too!! I love the idea of an "Anti-X" forum. :rolleyes:

And I was thinking, since we are going to have a centralised place for the translation of the various artists, maybe we can still keep the Jolin and Leehom subforums but their news go to the translation section? :? Not sure if that'll work though..

[jayx8318x]

Do you guys think I should implement some of the forums little by little, instead of one day all of sudden add them in?

This way also helps us see what kind of discussion topics will be posted in those forums, or how people react to them. And the future mods can think of what they want to control or foster in those forums, so they can prepare stickies and stuff...

[JianDan[Ai]]

Do you guys think I should implement some of the forums little by little, instead of one day all of sudden add them in?

This way also helps us see what kind of discussion topics will be posted in those forums, or how people react to them. And the future mods can think of what they want to control or foster in those forums, so they can prepare stickies and stuff...


I vote yes. Too much at once might be overwhelming. Also some of the new forums still need some tweaking before we can release them.

[spax]

^ I second that. It would be too overwhelming to release all the new forums at once. Members would be lost. And the amount of work load would be a burden for us to come up with new forums and changes at that same time.

Maybe we can create threads to discuss how the specific forums or sections should be run. What should be inside, who should moderate them, what are the rules to be observed, etc. It would be more organized in this way. Some more, it would be open to opinions of every member of JCNET on how should they be run, as well as changes that should be made.

[laruku]

I think we shld implement those changes which would take more time to get used to first, i.e. the welcoming newbies thing & the spotlight forum.

As for the rest of the restructuring, I'm sure its easy to catch on, a few more visits & some exploring should be just perfect.

[andantino]

i personally think that the "fun and game" section should be removed.

mostly games played need us to post up like 1 or 2 lines of words which i think its wasting the space in here.

and there's also certain people who plays only the game but doesnt appear in the other forums. some even thought that the posts count. haha. ;p

while the "small talk" section should be cleaned up. a little messy in there. and its like the social lounge #2

[lattae]

Do you guys think I should implement some of the forums little by little, instead of one day all of sudden add them in?

This way also helps us see what kind of discussion topics will be posted in those forums, or how people react to them. And the future mods can think of what they want to control or foster in those forums, so they can prepare stickies and stuff...
I am more for a "complete change". Reason being, there may be confusion as to where to shift threads and direct people if we change "bit by it". I've got a feeling that there may be certain threads that will end up like, "oh because of phase 1 change, this will go here", and then when phase 2 comes along, "now this thread has to be here..."

I am suggesting change, accompany it will a sort of general dummies guide for everyone to read. Direct everyone there, and then let people have time to adjust.

[laruku]

I am more for a "complete change". Reason being, there may be confusion as to where to shift threads and direct people if we change "bit by it". I've got a feeling that there may be certain threads that will end up like, "oh because of phase 1 change, this will go here", and then when phase 2 comes along, "now this thread has to be here..."
I am suggesting change, accompany it will a sort of general dummies guide for everyone to read. Direct everyone there, and then let people have time to adjust.
I'm going more for part by part change BUT BUT BUT we have to have the changes planned already. Just going by like implementing part 1 then part 2.. it gives karen time to make the changes as well so that she won need to have a 'timeline' to complete changes in x number of days to re-launch it. She can at least take some time & do it in stages.