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xiaoting
02-03-2006, 12:09 AM
Sigh, where do I even start?
I don't know if prostitution is illegal or not, since there are so many brothels in so many places, especially in Asian countries. Ah, I think they're called brothels...either that or whore-houses. It gives such a bad name to women and to men.
I've heard of the Red Light District in Japan and how it's so popular there. Then, in India, prostitution is so huge that hundreds or even thousands of girls are sold or tricked into it. But really, why can't the government just get rid of all them? I mean, it's the one of the biggest causes of HIV/AIDS and all other sorts of diseases and viruses. It also gives a bad impression on how the government handles their own country.
I know that here, in the United States, there's a lot of prostitution. Heck, the city I live in has one of the highest number of strip clubs.
Maybe I'm too young to understand this. I know it's not that simple. But how can we stop it? It's always so uncomfortable to talk about things like this, but this is the corrupted world we live in, yeah?
aznjayhunter
02-03-2006, 12:12 AM
yes yes....a lotta prostitution. at least not in MY community. i just dont understand how women could go so low just for money. i mean, why dont they just study harder and get a more decent job?! right? no need for this stuff. such a shame.
by the way, im pretty sure its illegal......cuz if a person wants to become a citizen in the united states, they ask u if u've ever been a prostitute.
sapphire_stone
02-03-2006, 12:56 AM
yes yes....a lotta prostitution. at least not in MY community. i just dont understand how women could go so low just for money. i mean, why dont they just study harder and get a more decent job?! right? no need for this stuff. such a shame.
by the way, im pretty sure its illegal......cuz if a person wants to become a citizen in the united states, they ask u if u've ever been a prostitute.
woah...i didn't know they ask if you were a prostitute or not...thats WEIRD. But I mean, who would ever admit to being one?
Anyways, to me prostitution seems like a reallly low way to earn money. But what will happen when the prostitutes become all old and wrinkly and uhh....not seductive and appealing......what do they do after their "career" of prostitution.
it sounds stupid to me. :dry:
panda_shine
02-03-2006, 02:12 AM
Well I don't know about other places but in the region I live the reason behind prostitution is a different case, here the main issue behind is drug problems. Those people are addicted to drugs, and live in parts of the areas that are considered drug zones.. and in order to support their drug addiction, they get into prostitution to earn money. The government has always tried hard to improve this side of the city but it's quite hard.
As for other cases, I guess some people just want to earn fast and easy cash because they have no education, or they've been forced in to this industry.
aznjayhunter
02-03-2006, 02:21 AM
woah...i didn't know they ask if you were a prostitute or not...thats WEIRD. But I mean, who would ever admit to being one?
Anyways, to me prostitution seems like a reallly low way to earn money. But what will happen when the prostitutes become all old and wrinkly and uhh....not seductive and appealing......what do they do after their "career" of prostitution.
it sounds stupid to me. :dry:
chya......they ask u if u were a prostitute. i saw the questions in my government class. :rolleyes: yeah and they also ask if ur communist :oops: yeah i dont think ANYONE would admit to it, but maybe they do some top-secret research on ur record or something in ur country.
cookiebandit
02-03-2006, 04:02 AM
dont look at prostitution in such a naive way. u think the prostitutes enjoy what theyre doing?
maybe in some cases the women are senseless and maybe enjoy it. but sometimes its also cuz its hard to get a job like.... litterally they have no where else to go. u HAVE to make money to survive, a lot of the times its not their faults.
i dont care if the prostitutes are 18 or 20+ (because its mostly their choice) but if its a child then...... i wanna cry. thats when its really against their will. there are places in third world countries where the child feels lucky...thats their job. tourists come and they immediately try to attract them to these child prostitution houses. they need to make money too? i dont know. but in i say....90% of the time (of the prostitutes out there), its not their choice at all, and i think their not happy about it. its just saying how cruel humans can be sometimes
mliza
02-03-2006, 06:17 AM
sometimes i think it's just a hopeless cause. it's hard to blame women who do it to raise their children. though that reason doesn't really justify it more than if women do it just to support their chosen lifestyle. it's easy to say that there are alternatives, but not everyone gets the same opportunities.
by the way, it's no longer solely a women's issue. even men and children like cookiebandit mentioned, have resorted to prostitution.
at least discussing it increases one's awareness.
izhang
02-03-2006, 06:45 AM
its always about the money, its an easy profit, reminds me of this movie Maria Full Of Grace, woman who works as a job mule for lots of money
hey, who know's maybe they're hoping for a miracle of finding a rich guy who would support them, but that usually just happens in movies
2539mzkinkii
02-03-2006, 08:19 AM
* prostitution. it's all around us and many have different opinions. i agree its dispicable, but then again its true, some of these ladies young or old turn to it because of financial issues. if you think about it prostitution gives alot of money.. if your "good". and some of them enjoy it aswell, but wouldn't you rather a job that offers good pay and is enjoyable to one that is plain boring and is just enough for you to survive on? i totally agree that the men there should cover themselves in shame but would you rather them raping or sexually harrassing a poor girl/lady/woman ? i personallly wouldn't. its everybodys opinion against everybodys and i dont think anybodys opinions are wrong, but put yourself in their shoes. here in sydney, there's a place known world wide for prostitution and the people get labelled as sluts etc.. its a shame many do call them that because its their job. and true; jobs these days are extremely hard to find, and there are pleny of jobs out there.
HIV/AIDS and other diseases are growing rapidly but its simply because people are so lazy. and its not because of prostitutes that aids etc are developing. its mainly because us people are really arrogant and think they dont need it. aids is not caused by prostitutes, it only gives us a reason to blame them. stereotypically, prostitutes wear skanky clothes, extreme makeup, look like a total wreck, and even assosciate with drugs; but you never know a prostitute could be a woman whos perfectly happy in her life wanting a new perspective on things.
i really do feel sorry for the ones forced into prostitution voluntarily or involuntarily, because either way; we tell men its okay for us to be their slaves. men sometimes disgust me, because they think its absolutely okay for them to destroy everything. but if a woman comes in to fix up the problem they get offended and brush us off violently.
all i can say is give them a break, theyr only trying to their job. its not like their hurting anyone, if anything their hurting themselves. its true that prostitution can be a dirty job and most high classed members of our society would never accept it, only because they'll never have to deal with it. all their lives they've either worked hard or inherited from older relations. it still doesnt give anyone a right to say prostitutes are wrong. some are illegal and i totally disagree with those. but for the legal ones i believe its better for our world. less rapes etc.. and women get something out of it.
panda_shine
02-03-2006, 09:09 AM
by the way, it's no longer solely a women's issue. even men and children like cookiebandit mentioned, have resorted to prostitution.
Yeah, I watched a documentary awhile ago about how this young men got in to prostitution. It was because of some complicated issues. I think he was left unwanted by his parents at a young age, causing him to be homeless. He didn't feel wanted and loved, and I think that was parts of the reason he ended up in the industry.
midori
02-03-2006, 09:47 AM
by the way, im pretty sure its illegal......cuz if a person wants to become a citizen in the united states, they ask u if u've ever been a prostitute.
lol do they ask if you've ever been a terrorist? XD
anyways, most prostitutes aren't what you think they'd look like. they are drug addicts, many times prositution money is what supports them, so they do look mess up and not so pleasant looking. as for how they got to be into prostitution in the first place, i dont think we should just.. say "okay, its not your fault so go on with your job" because then people are going to or is already think that its okay to be a prostitute because you have this and this issue. if we want to tackle prostitution, it's not so much of trying to stop the girls/guys themselves but maybe their customers? just food for thought =P
scarletwillow
02-03-2006, 10:16 AM
On the one hand, prostitution, an illegal, dangerous career without promotions.
On the other hand, pornstars, a legal, promotable ("barely 18teen - MILFs"), respected (only in California) job.
Hmm.
hui90
02-03-2006, 01:25 PM
yes yes....a lotta prostitution. at least not in MY community. i just dont understand how women could go so low just for money. i mean, why dont they just study harder and get a more decent job?! right? no need for this stuff. such a shame.
by the way, im pretty sure its illegal......cuz if a person wants to become a citizen in the united states, they ask u if u've ever been a prostitute.
Maybe it;s not they don't want to study harder. There are people who are poor that they could not afford to go to schools and maybe they have problems in families like e.g family members having serious illness which needed lots of money to seek treatment as they are not that educated so they chose prostitution. There are also unwilling parties. Some might be tricked/forced like child prostituition. Some people just don't have the choice to choose what they want in their life as maybe got tricked in signing contracts or something. lol. :wink2:
soybeast
02-04-2006, 12:40 AM
I think prostitution is one of things you just can't get rid of. It's been around for as long as humans have been around.
To get rid of prostitution you'd have to get rid of other things that are equally or even more impossible to change such as poverty, inequality, etc.
Just be glad you were lucky enough to be born into a fortunate situation. Maybe when you're older and capable enough, you can help some of these poor people.
xJayChoux
02-04-2006, 01:14 AM
^i dont think you should sterotype them as "poor people".
not everyone thinks its a job where they have to sell themselves for money in order to stay alive. some people enjoy doing it. they think of it as a way to entertain people. the money then is just a bonus.
our capital city, Amsterdam, is famous of its Red Light Districts. many people come here to see them, not for the sex, but they think of it as some sort of cultural thing.
but of course, there are always some hollywood celebs who are on tour and never forget to visit our dear Amsterdam. : )
cacky
02-04-2006, 01:53 AM
Hey ... ... we are talking about one of the oldest trade in the world here!!! How can something like this be thoroughly eliminated???!!! There must be a reason why it has existed for so long.
And the only reason I can think of is human nature. When there is demand, there'll naturally be supply. Do not think of it as the fault of women, rather, think of it as men's selfish needs.
Yes, for those who are totally into such things to wreck people's families and relationships, I can brand those women as crazy. But I guess a good bulk of them did it purely for money. Where I come from, we have all these women coming over thinking that they can make a fast buck as where they came from were really poor and they're not educated.
So the best way is prostitution. I used to despise them for not having a strong will to make money through other means and in fact, I still do despise them now. But I also do understand the fact that different people have different values in life. What I deem to be wrong may be alright in the eyes of others.
It's such a fine line drawn between right and wrong sometimes. In some other countries, prostitution may be the only way out to make money as there are not much other choices left. Though we are trying to improve the social standards of the world, but such problems are never ending, it's very difficult to control.
We can't even control what's going on in our own country, let alone try to improve the world.
Point being, before we judge, put ourselves in the shoes of these prostitutes and then ask yourself deep down, would you have done the same.
dude000
02-04-2006, 03:00 AM
iduno i agree with you but some girls or guys choose to do that so they can earn some money cause either they want to do it or iduno got nowhere else to go in life. but yeh i guess it is the cause of hiv and aids in this society due to brothels and prostitution.
xiaoting
02-04-2006, 06:59 AM
ah well, i never said it was the MAIN cause of HIV/AIDS, but it's a cause.
I've been reading about prostitution. It's horrible, as we all know. I understand that many of them are sold by parents or they're in debt. Prostitutes usually give up their self-respect and virginity for their parents' lives and health. They could be only 5-years old too. In many countries, a child is supposedly required to give up their life for their parents. In the U.S. it's almost the opposite. It's kinda funny..in a sad kind of way.
And, xJayChoux, i think that all prostitutes are poor..or at least 99.999% of them are. I mean, who want this job?! Legal or Illegal, it's not cool. It sends the wrong message to men!
fyi: the Indian government tells the people that the best way to get rid of HIV/AIDS is to have sex with a virgin. But, of course, that is completely false! I don't know what that government is doing, but it's deceitful! oh, this is a bit off topic, but in Calcutta, India, men who have HIV/AIDS have sex with newborn babies because they think they'll give away their virus/disease. And it's not only in Calcutta, it's in many other places as well. They actually kidnap babies just to save themselves...it's so pathetic.
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zhy378
02-04-2006, 10:03 PM
maybe they just want it for the pleasure, come on look at society today, all we see in the media is sex, sex, sex and violence.
this remind me of back in middle school when my best friend said her lil 7 yr old sister want to be a stripper.
see what our culture have come to, the way we see sex. sex appeal, pleasure. so we are influenced long ago that way of livin to survive is to sell your body, even to sell your daughter to a brothel for the entire family to survive.
however, i dont think all prositutes are poor. they may be a bit livin a twisted life of havin sexual deeds for money, but look at the movie Deuce Bigalow the gigolo2, not all his umm "rivals" were poor, they were just in it for the enjoyment and money too i guess.
SimpleBlackHumor89
02-05-2006, 03:15 AM
there's nothing wrong with prostitution as long as the men/women prostituting themselves have given consent. and it's ADULTS... n they practice safe sex
but it's f**ked up, if a prositute has to take her 5 month old baby with her...n yes that does happen. where the mom satisifes her client in the car while her baby's in the back seat
charmian
02-05-2006, 03:31 AM
no, i dont think all of them are drive by poverty
but rather a desire to own brands, be able to live up to upper class society and well, no one really says that she/he has enough money right? Take a look at japan, school students are selling away their bodies to earn the money to buy what they want.
xiaoting: oh my god, sex with babies? that why i say, education goes a long long way. T_T
xiaoting
02-06-2006, 06:35 AM
there's nothing wrong with prostitution as long as the men/women prostituting themselves have given consent. and it's ADULTS... n they practice safe sex
so you're saying that prostitution should be legal if there's nothing wrong with it? and there is
NO SUCH THING AS SAFE SEX!
gCjs84
02-06-2006, 12:31 PM
I think there are many different sides to take a look at prostitution. Different cases applies to different people. Some people are tricked into it, some are driven by poverty whereas some on the other hand are in it for the easy money.
While it is easy to condemn and criticise them, I think we should not overly generalize their reasons as the circumstances leading are endless. We as "outsiders", can never really understand the situation and I think it is fair for all people to have their own comments so long as you do not "write" down other people's comments.
ColaPoP
02-06-2006, 09:39 PM
Cacky took the words out of my mouth. gCjs84 makes excelelnt points too.
- Supply & Demand
- Sustainable & oldest profession in the world
- Put yourself in their shoes before you make judgement
Who are we... the young, the naive, inexperienced & over-indulged to sit in front of our PCs and pass judgement on others? Are we talking about the abuse of children & victims who fall into that trade, or people who voluntarily enter that trade for money? Not for drug money, or cos they are uneducated or morally-loose people (that is how you may view them, if your values/beliefs impair your ability to see things objectively, which they will).
I talked to a girl who works as a prostitute once on a night out. She was an average looking blonde, with big tits, really friendly and approachable & quite happy to talk about the profession. She said she had always liked the company of men, and was sleeping with them quite frequently, so someone suggested to her that she may as well get paid to do it since she seemed to like it so much. And she did. She gets paid shitloads, she's saving to start her own business, and she said that other women she have met who work in the industry have similar attitudes to her. They don't feel used, they feel empowered. Power to her.
Prostitution may/may not be legal where you are, but it is tolerated. If it were to become abolished, the demand would still be there. There would be a blackmarket operating discreetly, but profiteering at even larger margins. Conditions could become worse for the 'workers' in that industry as there would be no one to regulate its activities. And people who cannot enter into the blackmarket may find other means to fulfil their needs. Thats alot of ifs.
I feel the same way Cacky does. Until you can fully appriciate the situation another human being in is, their values/beliefs, the conditions in which they endure and thus, their resulting actions. Who are you to judge?
KendoTiger
02-07-2006, 07:25 AM
NO SUCH THING AS SAFE SEX!
Yeah ~ what about if they're into hardcore S&M? They'll freakin' choke you to death! lmfao
I really don't care about prostitution ~ it's their decision.
Sex slavery on the other hand ~ that's so disgusting and horrible, it's just ~
hisashiluv14
02-07-2006, 06:23 PM
Prostitution is legal. In Singapore, prostitutes will only be arrested if they solicit clients out of areas designated for prostitution.
I think it's important to make a distinction between CHILD prostitution and, well, prostitutes who are of legal age who go into it willingly. The former is, of course, utterly despicable and sad; but the latter, I think, is necessary.
I'm a law student and I'm doing criminal law this semester. I came across a local case in which a man went to an off-shore island (Pulau Ubin for Singaporeans reading this) to rob a hut. A 50-something-year-old woman lived in that hut. A struggle ensued between the two of them, and the midst of the struggle, the woman's pants fell off. The man was "overcome with desire" (and I'm quoting from the judgment) and as a result, he raped her.
My first reaction? That man should just find himself a prostitute. Let's face it: Some men out there haven't had sex for so long that they may just snap one day and rape a poor, defenseless 50-something woman (she died in the end). What better way for them to satisfy their sexual urges than to go to prostitutes?
More seriously now. An adult woman can do whatever she likes and that's her choice. I personally would never go into it, but that's just me. Eliminating the trade? You're being naive. There's no way (legal) prostitution will ever go away. And criminalising all forms of prostitution will only lead to more and more problems, as mentioned by ColaPop.
mliza
02-08-2006, 07:49 AM
apparently, views on prostitution can vary depending on one's own social, cultural, or even religious background. regardless of the intention or motivation, whether the prostitute enjoys it or not, i think the act of selling your own body is wrong.
it's not a problem for people who enjoy it and use it as a means to acquire easy money; and there's rehab for drug and sex addicts. i'm more inclined toward those who are forced to do it out of poverty and oppression. this is where the line between necessity and morality becomes all blurry and subdued that most people would just choose to ignore it. it's an interesting topic to discuss in school, but it becomes too sensitive to deal with in reality.
Rurouni[X]
06-05-2006, 01:57 PM
Umm.
When the word "Prostitution" pops up i altomaticaly think "Kings Cross" here iin Australia.
For of all STD's like HIV/Aids Genetal Herpes, Genital warts and many other Sexually Transmitted Diseases are a big problem.
Not only are they deadly it kinda deems you unclean yea?
Prostitution is legal in nearly everyy country.
As long as you dont hire anyone under the age of 18.
Underage Prostitutes are a real problem.
Anyway my personal beliefs is why hire a prostitute anyway?
Unless ur such a sad f#ck that you cant find a girl of your own and you have to buy one.
Its dangerous and i think a strict No No..
Imagine if ur girlfriend discovered that you have paied someone for sex.. Ethic s and Morals yeah???
Im not saying that its bad.... hey i wouuldnt know.. im too young.
I just think personaly that people should think more
^^"
Chose the right decisions..
Iis what your doing getting you what you really want?
alwi_hui
06-16-2006, 12:38 PM
I think prostitusion is a very very complimated cases...
I think No country in this world could ever solve this problem...
This wat a problem of NEED.. We can`t blame women for this b`coz wat they do is also a man NEED.. Man NEED desire, Woman NEED money..
People in goverment who have to find ways solving this cases are also be a part of this cases... They also NEED it... Wat a sucks????
Many people say this illegal, but can this problem be solved if prostitusion be Legal??
Just be close to GOD.. Maybe this problem can be decreased, but I think it can`t be zero.. Just hope it decreased..
midori
06-16-2006, 09:44 PM
the only way to solve this issue is for MEN to stop sponsoring this =P
I don't know why the US government is so strict on marriages saying that its a sin and its against the natural world, but they PROSTITUTION is hardly touched upon even though its more serious than gay marriages.
KendoTiger
06-17-2006, 03:46 AM
Prositution already is illegal in America.
Men? What about the women? You're saying it's all men's fault? Lmfao - sex takes two! Or one with some lotion and tissue.... XDDD
Relating to that "GOD" comment... I was flipping through channels, and I think Operah was talking to this Indonesian woman who was the sex slave of this American minister...
lil~jo
06-26-2006, 07:42 AM
But i'd have to say, kendo...
we find less females out finding a jiggilo than a male finding a female prostitute.
You see, if males did not look for the females for sex, the females wouldnt have a job any longer as a prostitute...so yes....it is the males fault...
muah hahhaha....
ok ok, to be serious, it is both the male and females fault.
Sure they enjoy this sexual pleasure, sensation what ever you call it.
but....
toodo it with everyone and anyone, for the sake of money...
it is plainly demoralising.
yukiko
06-26-2006, 08:01 AM
I was flipping through channels, and I think Operah was talking to this Indonesian woman who was the sex slave of this American minister...
btw, who the girl you mean? im from indonesia. maybe i can find any news about her
maybe not all of the prostitution worker do for the sake of money.. i dont know what they are thinking of, but im sure it's not the only reason to do a demoralising work
EricOng
06-26-2006, 10:55 AM
But i'd have to say, kendo...
we find less females out finding a jiggilo than a male finding a female prostitute.
You see, if males did not look for the females for sex, the females wouldnt have a job any longer as a prostitute...so yes....it is the males fault...
muah hahhaha....
Its also the female's fault when they made the male to be irreristable...
And...why be a prostitute in the first place?
If there's no prostitute and that means less sex.
Haha. :tongue:
alwi_hui
06-26-2006, 11:57 AM
To throw away prostitution, is like throw away the sand from the beaches....
lil~jo
06-26-2006, 12:42 PM
alwi hui, sounds like you're into it :brows:
hahah, its the worlds oldest proffesion i kno...
eric, hahaha.....who asked you guys to look??
well, you see, alot of females can't earn money to live in a home, can't get a job to feed themselves...
and so they submit themselves to using their own bodies...
I say....if the guy was nice, the guy would just give the money and leave.
EricOng
06-27-2006, 10:52 AM
I say....if the guy was nice, the guy would just give the money and leave.
Which I say is almost impossible.
There is no free lunch in this world, sis. :dry:
Donny
07-11-2006, 04:03 AM
Which I say is almost impossible.
There is no free lunch in this world, sis.
*tet, wrong! i do giv free lunch! XD
hahah, its the worlds oldest proffesion i kno...
u sure knows alot. :tongue:
arh! blame it on the boobies! they're so cute! :drool:
sigh, this is juz back to "the chicken? or the egg?"
chicken? egg? nah, is chicken.. nonono~ its egg! wait!~ is donny!!! huahaha!~
xiaoting
07-11-2006, 04:08 AM
arh! blame it on the boobies! they're so cute!
Er...yeah. Guys have created this type of image of themselves. Oh, how I wonder how prostitution started...
Donny
07-11-2006, 04:14 AM
well, in ancient times, prostitution started bcoz there's a demand for lust and pleasure (*from those big ppls), and so some women had no choice but to sell their body in return for daily food. (*at least tats wad i think la)
but over times, there's women whose been into this field for times tat they use lust to overpower their sadness and ... everything.
its like, since ur already in such a situation, u hav no choice but to find the "good" things or factors in it, well in this case, lust and pleasure.
keikai
08-12-2006, 09:02 AM
To be honest, I don't know whether prostitution is legal or not. There's just too many going on out there and I don't really see much action put up to stop or lower the amount of cases happening.
Of course, I don't agree to selling your body for money. I don't want to judge them for their actions in this matter, because they MIGHT have reasons for doing this, maybe serious lack of $$ or stuff, things that I have no idea about since I didn't go through it, but I don't know. It just doesn't seem justified.
*sigh*
scarletwillow
08-12-2006, 09:46 PM
I support the legalization of prostitution.
Why? Because if you make it illegal, it won't stop it. It'll just increase illegal demand for it.
Prostitution is a victimless crime. The only problems with it are in the public health sector regarding STD's. But a well-organized effort and the creation of a legal industry with background checks of all prostitutes and johns could easily solve that problem.
This is like marijuana. While it's not socially savory to be a patron, it's even worse if you have to achieve it by illegal means, which bring with it all sorts of other side effects.
pepper
08-15-2006, 07:36 PM
The government could only prevent prostitution to a certain extent. There would always be pedophiles and sexually deprived people in this world and hence there would always be demand for prostitution. With demand, comes supply and no matter what methods the government tries like increasing jail sentence for anyone caught in the act of prostitution would be deemed futile and impractical.
Major implications of prostitution is the increase in SDTs. SDTs like AIDS kill and cause sufferings to millions. We can't fully prevent prostitution but we can promote safe sex to prevent abortions of innocent foetus and the spread of the contagious SDTs. =))
dagamezmasta
08-16-2006, 12:12 AM
The government could only prevent prostitution to a certain extent. There would always be pedophiles and sexually deprived people in this world and hence there would always be demand for prostitution. With demand, comes supply and no matter what methods the government tries like increasing jail sentence for anyone caught in the act of prostitution would be deemed futile and impractical.
Major implications of prostitution is the increase in SDTs. SDTs like AIDS kill and cause sufferings to millions. We can't fully prevent prostitution but we can promote safe sex to prevent abortions of innocent foetus and the spread of the contagious SDTs. =))
I believe you mean STD's :glug:
I don't believe prostitution is right, but if the er... seller (not sure about the term) is willing to do it for the money, then I don't think the government exactly has the right to restrict it. However, selling people into forced prostitution is simply outrageous and cruel.
But some people (who, may I say, have no skill whatever and can't find a decent job) go into prostitution to support themselves. I don't think those people should be restricted from trying to scrap a living.
janjin
08-17-2006, 02:07 AM
Taking in mind the more perverse forms of prositution (i.e. kids)and how some ppl are tricked into it I think its probably helpful to legalize prostitution and at the same time set standards for it. I remember watching this pennteller episode about how since prostitution is not legalize in the US prostitutes are always in fear from pimps and clients and even legal enforcement officers. I think there is a legalized brothel somewhere in the US where they have like health checks twice a week for prostitutes and they can choose to accept or reject any client and the women working there were happy and made lots of money. Bear in mind that legalizing prositution would eliminate pimps too.
and what about escorts....??
To give another side of it....
At uni we were watching this video about people with disabilities (intellectual...physical...) and I guess we never thought about it in our degree (Occupational therapy), but it's like...hey! This population of people have sexual needs too! And if they cant get it from girls or guys that want to have sex with them, then they can go to legal brothels (with the help of their social worker usually).
It was somethign that I totally had not thought about in regards to working with this group of people... And our lecturer was saying that if we are uncomfortable with doing this (taking a person to a brothel..) then we should get someone else to do it.
Some people also teach their clients to masturbate... (one person HELPED their client to do this - of course a very very very very big no no.)
Well, there you go..something to think about!
E_Revolutions
08-21-2006, 01:36 AM
I think prostitution...is well...wrong. Even if that person has a good reason..its just wrong...not only is the person digrading themselves but also what about the other person. Isnt it wierd ....using someone for your pleasure....even if your paying them...its just not rite...in my opinion
Chun Li
08-21-2006, 06:52 AM
I think prostitution is fine as long as it goes under these rules:
1) They use protection, so no one is unknowingly given a disease
2) They are not cheating on their significant others
3) The prostitutes are not forced to be there, they chose to be there and are content or okay with it
Everything else is fine with me. If a guy (single) and without diseases wants to have a quickie in a brothel, who's to say it's wrong? If the prostitute is completely all right with her lifestyle, then why can't she do it? I think it's fine as long as no one is hurt by it. It's business, basically. He pays her for a service. Or, a woman pays a man for a service.
However, I don't agree with prostitutes using their job to get rich foreign men. It's REALLY annoying, and I think it's low class. Then again, people will argue that it's their right to fight for a better life, I just don't think it's fair that it's not because she loves him but only because she loves his money. I guess it's all right if HE's all right with it. Gah!!
cync.jay
08-23-2006, 04:37 AM
no demand.. no market.. so why does prostitution exists?.. coz there is human's need..
let's think in this way.. it's better for a person to pay in order to satisfy their needs than to drug or rape some innocent person..
as for ppl who trade themselves.. it's their last option.. for them.. it's just another job.. just like a barber giving service as in hair cut to their customer.. even graduates nowadays are having difficulty to find jobs.. how about those less educated?..
it doesn't mean that i totally agree with this kinda work.. i admit that i personally ll feel yucky if i know that person's a prostitute.. but everyone has their own dilemma.. anyway.. i ll be totally disgusted with cases of forced-prostitution where young child are tricked to work.. and thus said.. also those ppl who get service from those innocent young minors..
hmm.. just that.. since prostitution ll always exist.. regardless the law.. in my opinion.. it's better to legalize it.. so that the rights of prostitutes are protected.. my my.. they are human too, k?.. the more important points.. to control the seriousness of HIV/AIDS and STDs..
denying it doesn't mean it is not there.. so why don't we face the problem and use the law to contain it?..
ah^kai
09-13-2006, 06:36 PM
from what i think, Prostitution is morally wrong, but under the factors of law in a country,we do need this trade to satisfy the demand of sex in each and every country. i am not saying every man or even women will need this kind of demand but come to think of it, if there isn't any, what would the crime rate be? what if the next victim of any rapiest is your closest pal? All in all, in my opinion, i think prostitution need to be legalize....
KendoTiger
09-14-2006, 03:56 AM
Prostitutes rock your sock... if you happen to be out of condoms, and need something... fuzzy?
lmfao, jk. sorry, tired+alcohol = whee I don't really know what I'm saying.
:x
Anyways, I already talked about prostitution. *shrugs*. You can say that it conflicts with western pseudo-religious laws of morality, but in an asian sense, there's nothing that conflicts. Yes, the fact that you think it's wrong means you're too christian for your own good *rolls eyes*. I mean, there are some universal, moral laws, like "don't kill people"; "don't lie"; "don't cheat". Compared to those, I really don't see prostitution as a huge issue? *shrugs* I'm drunk, don't take anything I saw too seriously...muah :3 kiss to make it better. Omg, you just accepted a kiss as payment... that means, you're soliciting prostitution! OMGWTF! *shrugs* bananas?
Largest problems with prostitution are, as Chun Li said above. No diseases (yuck), no forced sex rings (mean crackers), and don't cheat (which I said above).
So... what would you do if Jay propositioned you for sex? HMMM???
Those thoughts, just now, were immoral!
WORSHIP GOD NOW YOU HEATHENS!
orangeman
09-14-2006, 05:05 AM
I consider prostitution as a way of life. It's not good to go venture into that path of lfie, but if you're in need of money, what else can you do? In reality, it's fast money. Prostitution is not that much different from any other job. Health concerns are a factor to prostitution, but people do what they can to live.
Prostitution is out there. They shouldn't be denied, but maybe kept somewhere where only those who need pleasure can visit them. I'm talking more about the ones that wonder the streets, rather than brothels.
cacky
09-15-2006, 05:58 AM
One thing I simply cannot comprehend after reading a couple of comments made here and that is ... 'No Prostitution=More Rape cases'. I mean, is that true? Are you men really such beasts that if you can't get your sexual needs satisfied, you'll just get any girl on the streets and screw her?
I mean ... seriously ... don't you men have any self-control?
danny24
10-03-2006, 07:12 PM
i live in holland and its LEGAL they even get tax refunds and everything they also have to pay tax hahaha but anyways its a bad thing and good thing at the same thing ok some of them do spread disease and all that some are adicted to drugs but its does help to keep rape down by giving the (freaks) a place to vent their sexual frustration and not go out and rape some inocent girl just because they cant get layed
KendoTiger
10-03-2006, 08:52 PM
I mean ... seriously ... don't you men have any self-control?
Okay, even if they make this weird case - it only applies to those freakishly demented people (of both sexes). Please don't assume all men would do this - that's just mean >:(
Sugar&Spice
10-13-2006, 08:32 PM
I disagree. People have prositutes everywhere, and still rape crimes go up. I think that no matter how many stastes leagalize prosittution, there will still be violent crimes against women as far as rape gose. Why?! I'll tell you.
Rape 99.9% of the time, has nothing to do with sex. It has everything to do with power. The person who rapes a woman etc. Feels a sense of power, from the violation. And that is where he gets his satifaction from. Very rarly dose it have to do with sex.
Prositution is very dangerous, becaus alot of the times the women who sell themselves, are victims of violence. They are beaten, or killed. And alot of the times, police do not catch the person who did the hideous crime. So no I don't think it is good at anytime. For any reason. Unless people are fond of others destroying themselves, and others. I don't think that this should be made a joke out of, it is really a sad situation.
danny24
10-14-2006, 12:18 AM
the girls im talking about here do it out of there own will ok there are girls out here that do encounter voilence and that is a bad situation but that is not the group i was refering too so i was just talking about what i hear and see in my country i know in other countrys it all happens in a totally difrent way the worst possible way but out here they rent a room and sit and wait since they legelized it there are less pimps and less sexual violence ok there are still some left they cant tottally get rid of them thats impossible the girls that walk the streets at allocated streets do encounter them the girls in the rooms dont have as much problems by them so out here is a tottaly diffrent situation than for example america or some parts of asia this is just my view as i have seen here in holland
Sugar&Spice
10-15-2006, 05:15 AM
the girls im talking about here do it out of there own will ok there are girls out here that do encounter voilence and that is a bad situation but that is not the group i was refering too so i was just talking about what i hear and see in my country i know in other countrys it all happens in a totally difrent way the worst possible way but out here they rent a room and sit and wait since they legelized it there are less pimps and less sexual violence ok there are still some left they cant tottally get rid of them thats impossible the girls that walk the streets at allocated streets do encounter them the girls in the rooms dont have as much problems by them so out here is a tottaly diffrent situation than for example america or some parts of asia this is just my view as i have seen here in holland
Okay danny, if you say so. But for me I still have some doubts.
BTW I didn't think you were making a joke out of it. I was referring to a certain person, who decided to come on here and post while drunk.
willywutang
10-17-2006, 04:09 PM
I agree with orangeman. Prostitution is usually a way of life and a lot of the prostitutes out there are in this business with the hopes of making money to support themselves. There are also cases where innocent girls are forced into prostitution. I feel that is just plain wrong. Whatever the case, prostitution can't be prevented and people just have to live with the knowledge that it is out there however sick it may be.
atomik86
10-18-2006, 12:43 AM
its not the best job in the world but sum ppl really just dont have any other route. im not against it nor am i for it. but i will stand up for them when ppl say its not an honest living. theyre not cheating or stealing. and sum women actually like getting paid for sumthing they enjoy. in society it is taboo but i think the world needs to stop seeing things in black and white but instead focus on the gray
Ginuwine
11-12-2006, 04:56 AM
you can't really stop prostitution, you don't need a permit to have sex and how would the government know? They can do it between their backs, i suggest put free condom booths for people to use instead. Thats a small prevention atleast.
Rekki
11-12-2006, 04:58 AM
As long as it's not accepted by society, and punishable by law, prostitution won't ever be that big of a deal. I suggest the gov. focus on more pressing matters like drugs, obesity and violent crime.
Pao-Pao
02-09-2007, 12:40 AM
I love this kind of topics here....it makes you think and really analyze everything with an objective point of view....
Prostitution has been a big trouble and tabu since I have memory...I don't know why sometimes people don't talk about it or don't pay attention to it knowing that is one of the biggest problem our humanity has right now. Prostitution is ilegal and around the world you can see how the girls since a young age practice it all the time....that makes me sad an angry cuz nobody do nothing about it. I feel for those girls, I really do....most of them don't have the money to live with optimal conditions and the only way to work and get some money is doing that...and also most of them have children and a homes, and they do it just for the necessity. Long time ago, prostitution only happened in third world countries like mine...but today is all over the place, and as Xiaoting says it's one of the biggest causes of HIV/AIDS and all other sorts of diseases and viruses....it's just incredible....how a thing that bad is so normal among the people...there are world organizations against the hunger or poverty, which I applaud but I think we don't have an onganization who can fight against prostitution!.
The most faithful example is what happens in Cuba. Young girls with even 12 years old practicing prostitution just to get something to eat or even soap to take a shower...I know we're not talking about policy, that's a delicate subject but I mean it's horrible...it's so sad and bad....those girls sell their bodies just to get something to eat....if the world don't do something, we have to....and yes it's hard to stop it but I mean there's must be some way to do it....
"As long as it's not accepted by society, and punishable by law, prostitution won't ever be that big of a deal. I suggest the gov. focus on more pressing matters like drugs, obesity and violent crime"...and yes it's a big deal....is equal important as drugs and domestic violent!.
kwonsang26
04-03-2007, 04:22 PM
Wow now this is a sensitive subject.But it's true that in many areas the jobs there are scarce.Some mothers & fathers have to feed & cloth the family somehow,even if that means selling yourself.Which is truly saddening.:oops:
Supporting the family doesn't really justify the immoral act,but with decreasing resources & rising population.Prostitution has become a normal job in the world.Sometimes in order to get educated or better yourself.You need a support system such as a best friend or family member.But many of these people don't have any of this support & chooses this lifestyle to support themselves.:worry:
lazyazn5318
04-03-2007, 07:09 PM
Okay the biggest problem I see with prostitution is that it's not regulated by government. That's why you have all these people being forced into prostitution, STD's spreading like crazy, etc. But if you look at places like Amsterdam where prostitution is legal, this is not nearly as big of an issue because it is government controlled and regulated very carefully. The girls are protected very carefully, you're not even allowed to take pictures of them because they have guards outside of their places, also there are mandatory tests they must go through. I think with government involvement that prostitution is totally fine from a pragmatic point of view. The biggest set back would be the moral issue, but honestly, I think that it should be legal because it's everyone's choice whether they want to abide by these set of morals or not. I probably sound like a horny teenager, but seriously, I do believe prostitution can be practical.
jocsim
04-04-2007, 09:08 AM
A lot of prostitutions in this world...there was one case here,which i read from newspaper that said there were 3 indonesians or filipinos who were caught by police if being prostitution!!Man...this is horrible.Being a prostitution just to make money.This is what HIV/AIDS mostly cause from!!Well i think it's all about the 'money' that what made them do that!I think this is definitelty wrong to do this,well id otn know for other countries but i know that being a prostitution here will be caught/arrested,put in jail or being fined with thousands of dollars here.
vitaminjaychou
04-13-2007, 03:57 AM
yeahhh true but then the prositutes in los vagas they like need sex like it was air or something. they like stand outside trying to flirt with every guy they see. that happen to my cousin hehe it was so funny cause he was only 16. now i know why they say what happens in vagas stays in vagas
applemac
04-23-2008, 06:35 AM
Well, coming from a 3rd world country I kinda understand better the situation about prostitution and why some ppl do it.
Having seen prostitution even near my home town when I was even younger (even travesties naked standing on the middle of the street) I kinda "accept" it because as many of u have said, it is too complicated to prevent everyone to have intercourse... I also think people have the right to do what he/she want with his/her own body as long as they are conscious of what they are doing, and the risks/consequences of their actions. For this reason, I believe I would accept prostitution as long as there is consent from both individuals and they are matured enough and willing to do so (which means 18+).
I definitely don't think prostitutes should be considered "lower" class ppl, as others have said before in this thread, you never know the reasons why they do it, sometimes they don't have any option as you do, specially in today's society where everything (or almost) is about money.
Furthermore, I think this whores-houses or however they are called (I forgot) are not that bad. In a way, I think it kinda "prevents" potential rapes or sexual assaults because there are some people outside with mental disorders or psychological problems that cannot control their needs. So if this kind of place can satisfy their needs, then why not?
And answering your question of how do we stop it? Well, I'll say the solution of many problems like this is education. Maybe that is the reason why unfortunate cases such as child prostitution are primarily seen in third world countries because education levels are very low and they are not aware of the risks of doing so, or don't even know what are contraceptives and since they don't have any education, degree...they opt for prostitution. Nobody has teach this people values or the "proper" way to do stuff, I mean they don't know what are the other/alternate choices. It is not easy to live within the conventions of society, and because they are not educated they just pick what they think is the easiest one to earn income. And for the people that have been educated and are aware of the risks they are taking with, but still do it for whatever reasons, then as I said...there's nothing you can do about it. But, I don't feel bad about them, it doesn't bothers me.
en_en
04-23-2008, 07:26 PM
Prostitution is the oldest occupation, it is obviously something that is never going to go away, so to benefit from something that we can never clear out completely, I think that prostitution should be legalized.
My reasons being that we can actually regulate it- make sure they get monthly checkups to avoid anything diseases- this could cut our STDs down. Also, we can tax heavily- help the government out.
As for the moral issue- I feel that if a person who goes to find a prostitute in the first place will make sure they get what they want either way- whether it be through cheating, prostitution, etc.
shadow_whiteknight
06-08-2008, 08:03 PM
I think this prostitution problem is kinda helpless.
Well, I live in a -considered as poor- country. So I think it's helpless in country like this. Recently one of my local newspaper wrote about prostitution. The survey result shows that almost 90% people understand why there're countless prostitution, but only about 10% of them that can accept it as 'legal' job.
Girls that work as prostitute, it's not their wish to have a job like that. They have no choice. And prostitution has give people in the environment money. Prostitution didn't just give the girls or the 'owner' money. But also poor people that live around them. Usually men will sell food (remember this is a low class environment, they sell the food using cart-not the nice one like in disneyland-) and fund his family with it. The housewives will wash the prostitutes clothes. The housewife profit is around US$4 daily.
If there's no prostitution -in some certain area- then the life of the environment will die. Children won't be able to go to school. Not even education, they'll hardly find something to eat. Therefore this prostitution has given the environment a big affect.
HangPHAMee
06-08-2008, 10:20 PM
mmmm i guess some people who are prostitutes are really young. Sometimes i guess they want a quick way to make more than minimum wage, even if they are going to school, they need money for school right? And I guess they feel it's the quickest way. I don't support prostitution but I guess that's why they do it. And I guess in some countries it's hard to find a job with a pretty good income to support them and others.
piepiekoh
06-12-2008, 07:07 PM
I think that sometimes the people who are in prostitution have to support their families and that's why they're doing it.
When I was in secondary school, my Chinese teacher told us about how she used to have a student whose sister was a prostitute and her student would go to the brothel after school everyday to work as the cashier. All her classmates and teachers knew that her sister was a prostitute but they didn't say anything because her sister was the only family she had. I know some may say it's quite a poor excuse but in actual fact, being poor and worrying about whether you can send your sister to school and university is actually troubling.
For illegal prostitues, there are actually lots in Singapore. The red light district, Geylang, has legal prostitutes on EVEN NUMBERED streets and many times when my family was driving past the area, we would see A LOT of women wearing revealing outfits and going up to old men who linger around there for certain "recreational activities".
As to why my family drives past that area, it's because the ODD NUMBERED streets are well known food havens in Singapore. Haha.
There is also spillage of such prostitutes to other estates in Singapore. Take for example, Chinatown. I was there the other day at Mcdonalds when I saw this old man having a meal with this illegal prostitute. You may ask how would I be able to tell but it's quite distinguishable actually.
Akira
06-13-2008, 07:05 AM
Wow really. I was never exposed to that back in sg. Anyway back to the topic.
I think prostitution is wrong. But in a time where everything is debatable and the moral code going through change its hard to say. But our bodies are the temple of god and thats how I look it. Sex is sacred and should be only done under the bonds of marriage.
Destiny
06-17-2008, 05:20 AM
Well, i read it in the newspapers in malaysia a few weeks ago.. It says the prostitutes in MY is getting more. It seems many young girls get lured into this erm, what u call that, industry? because of the high pay. Some girls were inerviewed and said that thye could easily earn a few hundreds or even thousands in one night..
I guess they do so is because either they cant find a job or they need that money to start a buisness. But i seriously think that chose the wrong choice. Why would u sell ur own body for just money?
Peach_happo
06-21-2008, 01:40 PM
not everyone dat is a prostitute wants to be a prostitute....
sum r forced and tricked into these situations....
one could be a pros. becoz of her personaly family status....lyk single parent families or jobless family etc.
this is a quick and easy job for earning money, u know.....
though, abit disgusting, but they earn alot and u dun really need to study for this job...much
and others are tricked and forced in these jobs....which is very sad.....
i wouldnt really approve of prositiution but i reckon we shouldnt ban it......sum ppl's lives depend on these jobs...its bad enough they dun excel in their study subjects or they r just poor, but now u r cutting off their only route to the future?? i dun think so...
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