Asians - racist or supremacist?

[KendoTiger]

For Asians in general: are we racist or supremacist?

Often, I've seen first generation Asians (our parents, usually), chiding other Asians to be "wary" of other racists ~ particularly those of African or Hispanic descent; often including racial stereotypes. Such comments as to "be careful you aren't robbed, there are a lot of mexicans", or "black people tend to be violent, make sure you don't get dragged into a fight" are common enough that it seems to permiate through Asian culture. We know it's wrong, yet racial slurs become fairly common, and are not discouraged; so they tend to continue. Mostly, they are used in comparison to Asians (as a race), in which we Asians are seen as "the better of the two", not necesarily with the "I hate those dirty Fu*king ___" kind of way.

It is so widespread that literally every Asian I know (personally) has been told at one point or another to be careful around Black/Hispanic people, whereas Whites (alone or in small groups) are generally trustworthy.

So I'm wondering two things:

First, are Asian people, in general, racist or supremacist? So, do we really dislike other races? Or is it just that we think our's is better? Just for the people who want to know the difference:
(Dictionary.com)

Racist:
1) The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2) Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Supremacist:
1) One who believes that a certain group is or should be supreme.

Secondly, does this extend to America (and the world) as a whole? I've met with people from Europe, and their perception of what it "means to be black" is similar to what is supported within America.

[u154801]

i saw in news the other day CHINA is ranked 6th for econmy, 4th and 5th are japan and Germany, so its not quite supreme yet but it will be.

just really depends on the situations, like whos the majority.....usually the minority will feel they face racism becoz they are minority like chinese living in england, its not their territory .......it be same the other way like english living in china

[chineseguyjl]

well for my parents the only reason that in my family we see african americans and mexicans as "bad guys" is becuase of the way they look. You know, because MOST blacks and browns hangout in crowds, and dress baggy. which makes them look suspicious, like what are they tryin to hide. and u always see in movies that the gangsters are always either black or mexican. it was kinda funny when my dad met my buddy from weight training which was black. My dad just told me to make sure i can beat him up.

So i think we are more racist. plus asians are only supremacist when dealing with our inteligence. NOT A STEREOTYPE, A COMMON FACT. nah just messin,

[princessKitty]

Well, my relatives are racist, they say things like hak qway (Black ghost) or qway lo (Rascist term to a westerner). I don't know if they do it on purpose though. My dad say thngs like wait till the future when china rules the world. Is that like saying 'We chinese are the best and no-one is better than us'

KendotigerTo say we is too general. I am chinese but I am not a rascist. I grew up in a country where there are many different knids of people. I think maybe where you were brought up. If you were brought up in an area where there are a lot of people the same race as you, you get use to it and slowly think that your race is better, whereas if you are a person like me, growing up in a multicultural soceity, I think that everyone is equal. In fact, I walk down the street forggeting what race I am because everyone respects eachother.

I don't know if asians do it delibarelty but they say it as if it's ok, as if it's natural. I think that has got to change. We live in the 21st century. However, I don't know if they mean it because everyone says it, it comes out naturally.:glug:

[scarletwillow]

Racist, by far.
Supremacy comes only once in a while.
Most Asians teach their children to be conforming and accepting.

If anything, Asians take their racism passively. We discriminate behind their backs by talking about them and avoiding them.
Other races bring their racism full-on, calling other races insulting names and making fun of them overtly.

[kewlpiggy88]

it's overt, but it's still preeetty bad. i know i have my marriage options dwindled down to a select few. the thing about getting to really know about other cultures is that it takes TIME and EFFORT and sometimes it's uncomfortable and some ppl are unwilling to go through with that.

but yeah, asians are totally racist, not sure about the supremacist part tho.

[SimpleBlackHumor89]

definitely racists,

my mom is sort of racist and yes it's generaly towards black people. she's
not EXTREMELY racist against black people, i mean she can talk to them and everything, only when it comes to like marriage

but today in the car my mom was talkin about how her friend told her daughter not to marry a white guy, ever. and my mom said that there's nothing wrong with marryin a white guy. but if you marry like a darker person, like africans, hispanics, or indians, your children will be like "mix" look, and they'll look dirty.wtf..i was offended... it's actually more skin color than stereotypes

and then my mom asked me would i marry a black guy, and i said yeah, and she was like 'what?' but i dont think it's a big problem...though

[junnleenfaah]

mm.. do you think it's possible to say that it's both? because my aunts, uncles, parents, etc are always saying how the chinese way is the best way and things like that AND they're always telling me to stay away from the "bad" parts of town.. and they consider it bad because there's a lot of hispanics and black people [and i live in houston so there's a LOT of hispanics and blacks considering i'm in the deep south [so typically there's the african americans] and i'm at the border [where all the hispanics will come from].

it's completely ridiculous a lot of the times to the way my parents [usually my mom] reacts to when it comes to the "dirty minorities" as some may say [i cant believe people would say that.. that's horrible]. i think they're that way because chinese people are sooo overprotective about things and worry too much. they also assume too much and just stick with the stereotype.

i think it's both, but to me it seems more racist than supremacist.

[leejt]

i reakon both , we asians can be racist and supremacist, not i for one factor though,
yep, our asian generations of ancestors warns us of blacks and that but yeh i dont believe in racism neither do supremacist.

[dude000]

umm asians can be both racist and supremacist, some of my ancestors always say watch out for the black etc etc. but yeh im not neither, i dont judge people by their race or coour and i do not think im better than everyone else, cause there is soemone always higher than you.

[KendoTiger]

"Everyone is a little bit racist ~ lu lu lu "

Song by the seseme street puppets!

keke

curse of the asian man anyone? lmfao

[Alex25]

Asians are racist, my parents always make fun of black people, shes like (CANTONESE) " Huk Gwi" = black people. So yah i do think asians are racist. However, i predict in the future, Asians will take over the world, so they can do whatever they want lol

[soybeast]

I don't see how being a supremist isn't racist (or at least prejudice). Maybe not racist per se, but if you can prejudice someone on many things, than it's probably easiest to pick out their race. Anyways, ya everyones racist, just that everyone has their own way about it

[aznjayhunter]

hahaha........definitly RACIST. my family in china always tells me and my sister to marry a chinese man when we grow up. They dont want us to marry anyone black, mexican, hindu, or middle eastern. white people are okay, but they just think that if we marry a foreigner, the connection w/ the rest of the family in china will become weaker and weaker because they will not be able to communicate with the foreigner. i dont kno WAT i should do. anyone wanna help me?

[jayluva1]

hahaha........definitly RACIST. my family in china always tells me and my sister to marry a chinese man when we grow up. They dont want us to marry anyone black, mexican, hindu, or middle eastern. white people are okay, but they just think that if we marry a foreigner, the connection w/ the rest of the family in china will become weaker and weaker because they will not be able to communicate with the foreigner. i dont kno WAT i should do. anyone wanna help me?

hon, how old are you? maybe a bit too young for marriage? yea... your parents cannot tell you what to do or who to marry it's your fate and decision... if the guy's black or whatever and you love him and you people take it seriously, go for it but choose wisely because once you choose something you cant go back...

the bottom line in this discussion is everyone is racist. even the least expecting person has gotta have an once of racism in him/her...

[aznjayhunter]

hon, how old are you? maybe a bit too young for marriage? yea... your parents cannot tell you what to do or who to marry it's your fate and decision... if the guy's black or whatever and you love him and you people take it seriously, go for it but choose wisely because once you choose something you cant go back...
the bottom line in this discussion is everyone is racist. even the least expecting person has gotta have an once of racism in him/her...

yeah.....im 14.....but u kno chinese parents.....theyre all worried about our future. :bleh: if IF i find like a black guy, and hes acceptable, my family MIGHT give in, but they'd still be like "hutt gui" :dry: watever.....i kno that i cant plan these things. sigh, everything will just HAVE to fall into place.....i guess. :?

[KendoTiger]

It's true though, marrying someone with another culture, language, etc, really does make it harder to have a strong family structure. If they learn the language, and fully accept the customs (on either side of the relationship), then there is no problem ~ but it is quite hard to do.

My mother still insultingly questions me if I bring home a non-chinese girl. "Oh. She's korean. Well maybe you'll bring home a nice Chinese girl sometime soon... " -_-

[Zhaohe]

I know for a fact that the older generations of Chinese are racist. From my mom, my grandparents, etc. but generally to Blacks for my mother. My grandfather on my mom's side used to dislike Japanese.

I've been brought up with these ideas, and I admit, I sometimes think that I too may have some of the same feelings now. Just for blacks and the French (Quebec). I'm generally okay with all Asians, but then raised to dislike Vietnamese. I know you cannot judge a kind of person by the acts of a few, but it's just been burnt into my head. I'm okay with speaking with them and all, but, it's undescribable.

I'm not racist really, the thoughts just come to my mind whenever I encounter another 'kind' of person.

About the whole superiority, I think us Chinese generally do feel superior to others. I wonder why all the time.

[Star]

Question; isn’t any form of separatism prejudicial? And isn’t asking whether an entire nation is either racist or supremacist in fact a form of separatism and therefore a prejudice? So what’s the question in this topic? Whether or not nations of Asians are either one prejudice or another? Damn that’s bleak!

[dizhotbabiguh]

what i see is that most of all asian parents are racist. mines for example is very racist against blacks and stuff. i get why they're like that. but they dislike them for some reason. but me on the other hand is fine with any one and isnt racist.
my parents tend to see that ppl of different racist (blacks) are bad. and they do bad stuff and cuss and say shit. and my parents dont like that so they dislike blacks.

so like yea. my parents are racists. and i think mostly all asian parents are racists.
o btw. i have vietnamese parents. so not only are chinese parents racist, viet parents are too.

[AnzuMazaki]

I think most older generations or people who've lived most of their lives in an asian country are racist, mainly because in asia its almost always only asian people, while in america its extremely diverse and you never see only one kind of race.

[neorelated]

for me..here I feel is supremist. ppl nowadays r being more open-minded..and racism is gradually fading away.Some ppl may disagree, but by looking at my country for example..10 years ago there was a very distinct line between each race..even now there is still a thin line..but u can c a few ppl ignoring that line and crossing over to the other side every once in a while :wink2: it juz takes some time for asians to get used to living with other races and accepting them I guess.

[Water424]

I don't see why you only ask this of asians
i think every race has their own view of others
and its wrong there is no way
that any race is better than the other we all have our ups and downs
what is the difference anyway
if you really think about it we all the same right
i mean billions and billions of people did'nt just appear out of nowhere just like that
i mean if we go back far enough we not all that different..
i think i can relate to some of you here
my parents are always like that
scratch that just my mom
its always blacks this
hispanic that

sometimes i wonder how was i raised by this person then i say o my dad is the one showing me that who cares we all the same
we only have one planet so we must learn to get along and accept
diao bu diao
my mom even told me to marry another chinese
i was like...........:bleh: :glug: :dry: pffftttt...im out
she just needs to get it through her head she cant control me

[canuck_girl39]

my parents tend to use racist terms like "gwai lo", "hak gwai", and "cha"..... they use it so often that they forget they are racist terms. i don't think they usually mean it in an offensive way, but a racist term is a racist term. but i don't think it's true that ONLY asians are racist. many other races think they are the best...

[zhy378]

well i say racists, but it depends. like asian in american, yeah we kind of have the right to be racist, lookin back in the past, wasnt america racist to asians especially the chinese with the Chinese Exclusion of 1882, excluding ONLY Chinese immigratin to the US. later on excluding all Asians. then there was also the laws of prohibiting Asians marrying whites.

so why not be racists when there was so much against us in the beginning starting from the 1800s?:whistle:

[nunya415]

racist.....the other one (don't wanna scroll back up)
is a tad bit EXTREME....but I must say...sometimes my family is racist...even me >< but not to black people....actually.....I personally like black people compared to white people...but maybe that's just where I live...most of the white people are extremely snobby, but I do have white friends....and most of the black people at my school (not too many) are always popular........so...maybe I'm not racist...just the majority of the people that I don't like...are white...

[Dragnox]

I think it's less that we look down at other people, but more that we view ourselves as being higher.

I think it's more that we're saying, we're Asian, we score extremely high on tests. We cannot allow ourselves to fail.

[dianilla]

I'm so glad that someone has come up with this topic because i've always wondered if all asians are really racists.

As far I know, I don't think every asian is racist or supremacist. However, I can say that my parents and my uncles tend to be racists especially toward people with "dark" skin such as african american or hispanic... I realized they care a lot about appearance and the fact of being "white". It's as if dark = dirty, and white = clean. That's why my aunt hates when i get tanned in summer. She thinks beautiful people should be white...

Also, they would tell me not to hang out with the "dark" people. They rather want me to have asian or caucasians friends... And if i have a bf, he should be Chinese... and i wouldn't be their daughter anymore if some day i marry an african american guy or a hispanic one. I think they're going too far with that...

Because i was born and grew up in Peru, it has taught me to respect everyone no matter what race the person belongs.It's a shame that my parents and my uncles think in that way. There's nothing I can really do to change their minds.

[KendoTiger]

The "beauty" in light skin tone apparent goes back, at least in China, to the days of the imperial court. As the rich and powerful women could avoid working in the fields, but rather stayed indoors, they had a lighter skin tone ~ affecting social opinion towards favoring lighter skin. They even used umbrella's to protect themselves from the sun.

Similar occurances are increased body fat for women in the middle east (seen as healthier and richer...yeah), and in China, the blackening of the teeth (as the Emporer's teeth were decayed during some important dynasty).

[Sugar&Spice]

It is stuff like this that makes me wonder why I even try. And what I mean by try, is try to be friendly to everyone. I'm very openminded, I like everyone. I was raised by my black mother, to have morals, and to never discrimnate against anyone. If we as black people are so bad, why have I been raised to like people of all races, and orentials are teaching racism to their children. Which is hatered. My sister grew up hating whites, and orentials, not because we taught her to. But because they made fun of her being a dark carmel color. So when she sees me looking at an Orential man, she says things like," Dirty chink, they eat cats, and dogs." Is that right?! Should anyone be judging anyone else?! No!!

I also don't know why the orential parents are saying black people cuss, when I hear chinese people cuss all the time. I was sitting in a resturant, and a chinese boy about 17 cussed in chinese. He didn't know I understood him. Until I looked at him, he was amazed I understood, that he told his friend to f$#k his mother. Then he said," Dui bu qi'a" Adding emphasis. Should I have ran home and said,"Those
orentials cruse and are rude. Stay away from them." If I would have, that would have been very ignorant of me. I'm not an ignorant person, so I don't do those things.

Also, orentials say watch out for blacks. But they themselves promote hate when they say that. And I tend to watch out for anyone who has hate beneath the surface. I read the post that said, they don't say it to your face, but when the person's back is turned, then they say it. That is being very cunning, and cunning people of any race should be avoided. They are so busy talking about others, that they are being worse then the ones they fear. Hate racism, its all the same thing. And I pity anyone who is bound by it. Because they will never know what its like to really be free, to really be happy and enjoy life. The fact that you can't turn your back on a orential without them talking about you is scary. Anyone, who acts like that, of any race should be avoided. And I for one, have to convince myself that I'm better then that. Alot of orentials who say they hate black, have never even spoken to one. But because a pair of pants are baggy you say they are dangerous. And then watch and believe what you see on tv. It wouldn't be right for people to watch kung fu pictures, and say orentials are violent.

What makes oretenials think they are the only ones who want good for their families?! Or the only ones that have morals?!

Also, I never have a problem with orential men. So alot of the women do the most talking. But thee is a problem with that, because I know what,"Hei Gui', and "Hakk Gwei" means. And will cuss out anyone who uses it on me. I'm proud of my race, and will always be. And no ignorent person can change that, nor will they make me be prejudice like they are. I won't let hate of any kind pull me down. And I suggest the same for those, who do let it pull them down.

[Rurouni[X]]

Gotta Just point out.. JAPAN is asian too.
Also yes.. well all the asians i know are supremacist.
I guess some asians can be racist
Its true.. My parents deem my white friends trustworthy and dont mind if i go get pissed with them. But my parents dont like black friends.. which i dont relaly have much off.
Also my Parents love Asian friends.. " Hes Asian right? that means hes smart and good at studying" Seriously we shouldnt generalize.
Many people will say that Aisnas are smart, White people talk alot and Blakc people are untrustworthy.
Its just like the stereotype asians cant drive and drink.
I dunno about drink but i cacn drive.. and im only 15..

I guess im pretty prejudice to Currys.
Or people of Indian Backgrounds.
Its just that ive never got along with one and never really found one that i liked. Same with Arabic and Aramaic people.. ehh sorry haha..
Its my bit of enigma.
I trust most asian people regardless Korean or japanese.. i have alot of Korean friends.
On the whole alot of my Asian friends are Supremacists..
Craks jokes like.
"______ slow down"
and he will reply with "Im Asian"
Or like "______ why you so mean" and he will be like "Cause im asian"
Stuff like that,
Personally i love being asian.
its a privilige and i guess im pretty patriotic.
For us to understand Two languages and be able to muster up a living in basically anywhere is pretty good.
I also like if how All of CHina jumped then the world would tilt of its axis and we would freeze.
Another aspect..
Is Supremacist bad?
i guess The nazi Regime started by Adolf Hitler was bad wasnt it.
he conquered Austria and later started WWI with his conquering of Poland.
However Adolf Hitler brought Germany out of the great depression before any of the other european countries,.
He also raised germany's Economic rates and employed many.
Although he used the Gestapo and many rules to inforce obedience and stop things liek work unions and other political partys.
is China slowly leading downt he path of Adolf Hitler.
Although our regime is communist it still concentrates on a leader..
Although we are the PEOPLES republic opf china
Think im going on abit too much ^^"?
I dunno whats the maximum posting amout haha sorry.
Answering ur first question
Personally every Asian person i know is Supremacist.
Especially those soouth Koreans
^^"
Nice Thread.
I like a good debate abotu ethics and ethnics

[Sugar&Spice]

You have alot to learn. Being proud of your race, and being racist are two different things. I'm proud of my race, but I don't go around hating, or judging other races. Also adolf hitler may have as you stated did a little bit of positive things, for people. Like help them through the depression. But that is because he took advantage of their weak situation, and used it to his advantage, to elevate himself as a god(which he was not) He also killed thousands of people. Which out weighs the supposed good things that he did.

It's amazeing how people walk around with so much issues about someone elses race. You don't like Indians?! Why?! Have they done something to you?! I think your line of reasoning is flawed. And you can keep on thinking white people are trustworthy if you want to. But let the record show, they are people like everyone else, and they can be untrustworthy too. There are people like that in every race, also you keep saying," We trust white people." But I have heard so many comments from them about Orentials, and it was not positive comments either. So you can trust who you want. But don't be surprised when you find yourself in a nasty situation, because someone you trust is going behind your back, and doing you in.

You can't just trust someone because of color, that is stupid. Rather trust someone because of the kind of person they are. Because they have proven themselves to be trustworthy.

[Hanzo]

I'm racist, but only towards Aboriginal Natives here in Canada. This will not apply to 100% of them but close to 95%. They take the government's money(tax payer's money, my money) and they spend it on liquor, drugs, and food. They don't work, they don't goto school, and they're fat and ugly. I don't know why they even live if they spend their whole life like that? Don't they want to become something, have goals in their lives, improve from generation to generation.

Being a Chinese Canadian, which I am extremely proud of. I want to surpass my parents and I want my kids to pass me. I'm sure most Asian parents want the same things, they want their kids to be, doctors, lawyers, engineers, business owners etc etc. I ended up being an engineer not because my parents wanted it, but because I wanted it as well.

[KendoTiger]

Ahaha, those lazy Indians :/ ! Spending all their welfare on 'fire-water' for their pow-wows! XD

Poverty and a lack of education tend to be


Lolz. ^ is a joke, for the clueless <3.

Hm, I always get along great with south-east asians. I really believe that Indian cuisine is the only one in the world I could live off of if I couldn't eat Chinese. I love Indian Curry <3 :O muaaahhh!!!

Hm, I'm wondering if social trends (stereotyped), tend to be self-fulfilling in supporting racism/supremacism. Ie - although "thug culture" is not embraced by everyone who is black, the mass-media popularization of a thug being the ideal might lead to an increase in crime. Although this emulation would be present in every race, the use of black/hispanic ethnicities for the facade... never mind, I don't know where I'm going with this.

Er, did I already write this? I haven't had any sleep in the last day and a half.

[Sugar&Spice]

I'm racist, but only towards Aboriginal Natives here in Canada. This will not apply to 100% of them but close to 95%. They take the government's money(tax payer's money, my money) and they spend it on liquor, drugs, and food. They don't work, they don't goto school, and they're fat and ugly. I don't know why they even live if they spend their whole life like that? Don't they want to become something, have goals in their lives, improve from generation to generation.
Being a Chinese Canadian, which I am extremely proud of. I want to surpass my parents and I want my kids to pass me. I'm sure most Asian parents want the same things, they want their kids to be, doctors, lawyers, engineers, business owners etc etc. I ended up being an engineer not because my parents wanted it, but because I wanted it as well.

Have you met all of them?! You probably haven't even met 15% of them. You need to readjust your thinking. I would rather be around someone who drinks, then someone who is harboring hate. If you teach this to your children, you are killing their insides. Because you are teachig them to hate instead of live. I have nothing more to say to you!!

[AzNQgUrLiE15]

Well, my parents aren't first generation, I am. But heh, everyone on my mom's side of the family is racist. I'm not, but there are certain races that I don't like. I'm ok w/ everyone and can make friends, but I wouldn't be like best friends w/ them if I don't trust them.

[Rurouni[X]]

woah Suger&Spice Kool haha
No i DONT hate Indian people.. thats a genarilisation.
Im just saying that every curry that i have EVER met always shits me..
And i have NOT met all of the population of Inidia.
Im also not Hitlers lawyer.
I agree that Hitler did MANY things that contradict with Morals that i hold firm..
Also he made one HELL of a crap car (VolksWagon).
Im ALSO not generalising that ALL white people are trustworthy.
But i deem that my white friends are more trustworthy.
However i trust my asian friends the most.
^^"
No need to heat up.. ouch.. i was just saying..And i DONT LIKE ADOLF HITLER
^^"

[judes]

Have you met all of them?! You probably haven't even met 15% of them. You need to readjust your thinking. I would rather be around someone who drinks, then someone who is harboring hate. If you teach this to your children, you are killing their insides. Because you are teachig them to hate instead of live. I have nothing more to say to you!!

i live in the same city as hanzo and you see this kind of thing every day. the people who walk around drunk and swearing at people in downtown are the people of native american descent. they are also the ones who get the special scholarships and student support groups for them at university.

it's not about harboring hate, but it's about seeing the reality of things every day. i am not saying that they don't need help, but that sometimes they waste all of the help they get because of the set up of the system and within their social group. there needs to be a complete revamping of the aid process and to integrate native americans into society without isolating them into small groups.

the sad truth is that if a native american walked into the store, they would be the one focused on and prevented from stealing. it is a stereotype that has been reinforced by many of them caught stealing. it is unfortunate, but if you run a business you have to protect yourself, and that involves looking at suspicious people.

i know someone who worked at a liquor store and if you broke down the people who have been caught stealing by race, you will see that native americans are predominant. now it may be a circular process of people noticing and catching them more, still, it can't be ignored.

back to the topic. i don't know about asians overall but i know that chinese people, particularily taiwanese people, are the ones i've heard making the most racist comments of all. they also are supremacist, by thinking they are better than everybody else and that their views are always right. which is why there's so much political dissent within the country.

taiwanese people (at least the ones i know) have something offensive to say about the koreans, the japanese, the mainlanders, and caucasians as well. they talk about infidelity and abuse in the home and treatment/disrespect of the elderly. they also talk about stealing and wasting money and their morals.

my father does not want me to take my caucasian boyfriend to church because then he will "lose face" since everyone will see that i have a white boyfriend. i'm not particularily impressed by the chinese culture and the idea of exclusivity, like if i associate and marry with the non chinese i will bring shame on the entire chinese race. i don't like people who give me this "you should be proud of your ethnicity" and you should "hold true to the chinese ways." i don't have to be proud of something i can't help and had no hand in. i didn't choose to be born chinese, just like i didn't choose to be born a girl. so while i am proud of certain aspects of the chinese culture, i'm not going to go around telling people i am better than everyone else who is not chinese and can only marry chinese people.

can't stand the attitudes of other taiwanese people when they find out i'm dating a caucasian man either. like because i'm asian therefore i am loose and went out to 'entice' him to be with me. and he can't be very 'serious' about me because he's only interested in a 'fling' and people who are 'exotic'. it's ridiculous, that's what it is.

[Hanzo]

^ Hey judes I've noticed the inconsistency of you switching from Taiwanese and Chinese. I know it's been like 2 years since we were debating this topic in the Taiwanese vs. Chinese thread, so whats the verdict? Are you Taiwanese or Chinese (Canadian)

[bebyjaystaa]

Have you met all of them?! You probably haven't even met 15% of them. You need to readjust your thinking. I would rather be around someone who drinks, then someone who is harboring hate. If you teach this to your children, you are killing their insides. Because you are teachig them to hate instead of live. I have nothing more to say to you!!
lol, cool down :? its just a little debate and everyone has their own opinions.

[judes]

hanzo: notice the instances where i use the word "chinese" instead of "taiwanese" or vice versa. i use them very particularily with selection of when to use what.

i include taiwanese within the "chinese" as in ethnicity, and yes "taiwanese" is part of the chinese "culture" in a sense. since this is not a political debate, and treatment of this type of situations is similar in chinese people (ethnic, not national), therefore i used chinese to identify with certain ideas or traits : D

does that make any sense?
and no, my view hasn't changed. i'm happy with status quo. if the mainland will clean up the government (and hopefully the taiwanese will clean up their government as well), then there could be reunification. but if the mainland isn't willing to accept all of the conditions of reunification as taiwan presented, then i would rather have taiwan independent.

[Rurouni[X]]

haha are Canadian Aboriginal same as Australian Aboriginal??
Sounds like they are cause thats EXACTLY what Aussie Aboriginals do.
The go on the Doll.
Get paid once a month froom teh government out of OUR taxes.
Goes downtown to buy some alchohol and get stone pissed.
They then set fire to things rape people and dump stuff into a river in the Northern Territory which is the most polluted thing in AUSTRALIA.
^^"
Its sickening

[Sugar&Spice]

']woah Suger&Spice Kool haha
No i DONT hate Indian people.. thats a genarilisation.
Im just saying that every curry that i have EVER met always shits me..
And i have NOT met all of the population of Inidia.
Im also not Hitlers lawyer.
I agree that Hitler did MANY things that contradict with Morals that i hold firm..
Also he made one HELL of a crap car (VolksWagon).
Im ALSO not generalising that ALL white people are trustworthy.
But i deem that my white friends are more trustworthy.
However i trust my asian friends the most.
^^"
No need to heat up.. ouch.. i was just saying..And i DONT LIKE ADOLF HITLER
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Sorry Man, I guess that wasn't very Diao3 of me!! I just can't stand Adolf Hitler!!

i live in the same city as hanzo and you see this kind of thing every day. the people who walk around drunk and swearing at people in downtown are the people of native american descent. they are also the ones who get the special scholarships and student support groups for them at university.
it's not about harboring hate, but it's about seeing the reality of things every day. i am not saying that they don't need help, but that sometimes they waste all of the help they get because of the set up of the system and within their social group. there needs to be a complete revamping of the aid process and to integrate native americans into society without isolating them into small groups.
the sad truth is that if a native american walked into the store, they would be the one focused on and prevented from stealing. it is a stereotype that has been reinforced by many of them caught stealing. it is unfortunate, but if you run a business you have to protect yourself, and that involves looking at suspicious people.
i know someone who worked at a liquor store and if you broke down the people who have been caught stealing by race, you will see that native americans are predominant. now it may be a circular process of people noticing and catching them more, still, it can't be ignored.
back to the topic. i don't know about asians overall but i know that chinese people, particularily taiwanese people, are the ones i've heard making the most racist comments of all. they also are supremacist, by thinking they are better than everybody else and that their views are always right. which is why there's so much political dissent within the country.
taiwanese people (at least the ones i know) have something offensive to say about the koreans, the japanese, the mainlanders, and caucasians as well. they talk about infidelity and abuse in the home and treatment/disrespect of the elderly. they also talk about stealing and wasting money and their morals.
my father does not want me to take my caucasian boyfriend to church because then he will "lose face" since everyone will see that i have a white boyfriend. i'm not particularily impressed by the chinese culture and the idea of exclusivity, like if i associate and marry with the non chinese i will bring shame on the entire chinese race. i don't like people who give me this "you should be proud of your ethnicity" and you should "hold true to the chinese ways." i don't have to be proud of something i can't help and had no hand in. i didn't choose to be born chinese, just like i didn't choose to be born a girl. so while i am proud of certain aspects of the chinese culture, i'm not going to go around telling people i am better than everyone else who is not chinese and can only marry chinese people.
can't stand the attitudes of other taiwanese people when they find out i'm dating a caucasian man either. like because i'm asian therefore i am loose and went out to 'entice' him to be with me. and he can't be very 'serious' about me because he's only interested in a 'fling' and people who are 'exotic'. it's ridiculous, that's what it is.

Don't ever be ashamed of who you are in love with. You have no control over who you fall for. Just like you have no control over what race you were born. The only thing that matters is how you two feel about eachother. Whether he is white, asian, black, or purple(joke) the only thing that matters is LOVE.

I guess your right, if they are doing all of that. Then I guess they can get on people nerves.:D