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ftlouiea
06-29-2005, 10:46 PM
Based on 'Colour-coded cures' article in one June issue of New Scientist magazine.

A huge row is blowing up over the first ever race-specific medicine.
Basically, since the recent decoding of the human DNA sequence by HUGO (The Human Genome Project), scientists have been able to pinpoint specific sections of the DNA sequence which give you such or such diseases or impairments.

This thursday, or last thursday, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) were supposed to decide whether or not to approve BiDil, a first ever race-specific medicine. This drug, is a treatment designed for heart failure directed at black people ONLY. This selective market of patients is due to a key biological difference between white and black citizens. Some say that BiDil is a new wave of personalised medicine in which patients get carefully targeted drugs to ensure maximum response rates and minimum side effects. However, others argue that this drug only reverts from the fact that the real causes of heart disease among African Americans are poverty, ill health and poor access to healthcare. Statistics show that those from ethnic minorities, particularly African Americans, tend to have worse health and die younger than white people. The drug, in itself, is no new drug; its 2 constituent drugs have been prescribed to people of all race for decades, to lower blood pressure and to treat heart failure.

I could explain more about this, but here's to the argument. This isn't a matter of race, though this example does use it to explain so.

1. Should scientists use the newly founded DNA sequence coding to create specific drugs aimed at specific groups or is this considered as discrimination of some kind?

2. These developments in scientific research, has its advantages or disadvantages?

Personally, I can see this new personalised treatment having an incredible effect on all patients worldwide. Previously, drugs that had been tested on a portion of the population which did not surpass a certain percentage of 'effective' treatment were discarded. Now, those drugs can be used regardless, if they are shown to be useful for specific types of people, race etc. Though this means that any exploitation of any kind of your 'identity' as such in your DNA sequence is relatively easy.

Secondly, I have this uncomfortable feeling that science is developing at such a fast pace, no-one can foresee its future. But thats how we improve our society, right? So in response to my second question, I can see no wrong in saving people's lives, but this may lead to people passing there 'best before' date and the human population on Earth will increase indefinitely.

That's my say, and yours?

powerlessangel
06-30-2005, 09:02 PM
Science and technology have drastically changed our lives, whether for the good or bad, it is hard to debate. it brought a lot of advantage but as well as disadvantage. some might say where there is an advantage, there is bound to be disadvantage too. i refer this to science and technology. you cant have one without having another....so
the question is not whether there will be disadvantage but rather whether the advantage will outweigh the disadvantage
in this case, i have a feeling that the disadvantage is outweighing the advantage. since it will be only aimed specfically towards black people, then of course it will be seen as disrimination. some may argue that the thinking of humans have evolved over the past years...we are now more open to things that we didnt used to be in the past. But the discrimination i am talking about is the subtle one.sometimes we are being discriminative without our consciense awareness.

if this treatment is to cure black people only, of course white people and the other non-black people will be disatsiifed....jealous to be specific.. and if these feelings are not voiced out openely, it will be voiced out through action. and once, there will be a line dividing the white and black as before. what arent said through words will be said through violence.......

Overpopulating of the world is not really much of an issue here actually. i dont believe drugs can work such miracles......it can extend your life span but i think only for short term. it is more of how carefully you look after your body and yourself that determines your life span.

the advantage this drug will bring is of course it will save a lot of lives. but at the expense of losing some lives too or maybe even recreating history again.

there are already several drugs and treatment out there that can already save people without causing problems to the society. i think we should keep to these drugs

ftlouiea
07-01-2005, 01:07 AM
...if this treatment is to cure black people only, of course white people and the other non-black people will be disatsiifed.... jealous to be specific

But the thing is, from another point of view, shouldn't black people be entitled, as such, to medication that works for them? since the general drugs used to treat heart failure generally works for non-black races. I can see where you're coming from, but say you're a black patient and you're offered this 'personally adjusted' drug to treat you better, say, 80% effectiveness. Just because another race of people reckon I'm being given the special treatment, I should step down and conform to their ordinary drugs which has 60% success?

...there are already several drugs and treatment out there that can already save people without causing problems to the society. i think we should keep to these drugs

But having found out what our bodies are made of from the HUGO project, shouldn't we use this new discovery for our benefits? (Since its taken a hella lot of money, time and effort anyway to add to that). Same idea as above, why hide away from drugs and such just because issues of racism, discrimination are touched upon? Surely there are no borders in the world of medicine, and everybody has the equal right to be entitled to good treatment?

:hmm:

vicks
07-01-2005, 05:02 AM
I think in a way, every drug will discriminate people in some form or another. Drugs don't work for ALL people. That's why there are so many types. Doctors have to go through a trial and error process to figure out what the right drug or combination of drugs is to treat each person's disease. I don't see why this drug should get more press. Why should non-black people be jealous of a drug that works for black but not them. I mean, some people are allergic to a certain vaccine. Does that mean no one else should be able to get that vaccine just because not everyone can use it?

It may not be economically efficient to create drugs that only a certain population can use, but as health care providers, that's not the issue. Our job is to help people gain a better quality of life, so why not use this drug? Plus, a lot of drugs are accidentally discovered. Somewhere down the line, we may discover that this drug will treat something totally different in a non-black person so give up research on a drugs just because it's targeted towards a certain race would seem counter-productive, wouldn't it?

scarletwillow
07-01-2005, 08:43 AM
This is the dumbest social-ethics question ever.
EVER.

Who in their right mind has the gall to DENY a medicine targeting a racial group?
First of all, in this situation, blacks are already more susceptible to heart disease. Why not give em a picker upper?

What's going to be next? Viagra marketed to the already-potent? Oh noz! Don't single out the old men!

Medicine is here to help.
Discrimination in medicine? HAHAHA!

powerlessangel
07-01-2005, 09:26 PM
hmmmm..........it seems like i was not being perspective, only looking from one point of view without ever considering other examples and possiblities. :angel:

seadream98 and ftlouiea provided good arguements which made me more aware of this issue than i thought i was and made me see this issue from different angles. :shy: A big :-) for you guys.

scarletwillow if ever an medicine is to be invented for a specific group of people, then i hope it is for those who are not mature enough to discuss an topic without being too childish. And if such medicine do come out, you will be the first to know :rolleyes:

ftlouiea
07-04-2005, 09:05 PM
Powerlessangel: It's okay to come from a different perspective!

Our job is to help people gain a better quality of life, so why not use this drug?

Vicki, our resident phramacist! That's the main point we're getting at. Not that I've abandoned this thread, but I can't see any other direction that this debate can go now :unsure: