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jayholic
08-05-2003, 07:45 AM
Has anyone else discovered this? I read about this on Jaywife.

If you play "Ni Ting De Dao" backwards, you can hear Jay say "zhi you ni neng ting de dao" (only you can hear) @ around 1:36. Ahh it's so cool! If you play that part in normal mode, Jay sounds like he's mumbling "na ni na ni no...". I think Jay said that he had a lot of other surprises/bonuses in this album. :]

Note for computer dummies like myself: I think you need some program to play songs backwards. They're available for download all over the internet so just go search for one on google. I downloaded the first thing I saw - GoldWave.

hisashi
08-05-2003, 07:55 AM
Is it?? I thot he was numbling something but dunno it's that!! and he did jump to one sentence to another so if u follow the lyrics u won't be able to sing to it..^^;

cloUdsuRFer
08-05-2003, 08:30 AM
haha...just listened to it.....(thanks lepencil)

it kinda does sound like it......
lol...i really love this kinda thing....secret messages etc etc....tres cool!!! ^_^

al911
08-05-2003, 10:02 AM
my IT savvy friend just taught me a method on how to listen the song backwards...

first get a WAV format of the song, use the Microsoft Sound Recorder (found in ur accessories folder) to play. choose "reverse" under the "effects" menu. you can hear the lyrics tt he distorted around 97 secs.

at first i didn't believe wat he said, after trying out, i wonder why he so... erm...boh liao...haha

Angels on clouds
08-05-2003, 10:14 AM
hey tt's kinda cool. does anyone have the wav version?

woaijielun
08-05-2003, 10:21 AM
oooh reallie? thats soOO cool.. WOW i need to try this.. No wonder.. wen i was listenin to ni ting de dao.. around that part.. it was all mumbling.. and i was like WHA??!!! like every single time i played the song..hahha. i was like dooooode JAY i kno that speecial mumbling way of singing is ur "specialty" but yah.. i cudn't understand NEthing.. LOL. NOW I SEE!!! heeh WOW JAY is SO DIAO!

jAy is a s h y_ b o i
08-05-2003, 10:24 AM
lol thats exactly what i said! at that one part he is seriously mumbling.. and it was sort of embarrassing because at that time i was talking to my mom about how jay speaks more clearly and then bam! he mumbles an entire sentence. so i was like "uh.... ok i *really* could not understand that one"...haha

nunchakus
08-05-2003, 10:29 AM
I heard it...and it does sound like zhi you ni neng ting de dao. But...was it really intentional? I mean, you have to be super highly skilled (I'm not saying that Jay isn't)...but I think you must be so skilled to the point of even knowing how to speak in reverse order to get that effect. Maybe it was coincidental? :?

Anyhow, it's cool. I'm amazed at the fans who can actually point such a thing out. :D

al911
08-05-2003, 10:38 AM
hey tt's kinda cool. does anyone have the wav version?

u can get the WAV version by ripping the cd or convertin frm the mp3

I mean, you have to be super highly skilled (I'm not saying that Jay isn't)...but I think you must be so skilled to the point of even knowing how to speak in reverse order to get that effect. Maybe it was coincidental? :?


he's definitely not tt skilfull... hoho... he manipulated tt part using the computer...

dazzlette
08-05-2003, 12:02 PM
i haven't heard it yet but if it's true that is like VERY COOL!!!! i always wondered what he was saying when he came to that part of the song.. and it fits in with the lyrics so well.. cos "only you can hear it (zhi you ni neng ting de dao)" aww man.. jay is really full of surprises.. but how did he do it with the com? as in won't the tune come out funny too?

jaypop
08-05-2003, 12:08 PM
I can't believe It.... Play Backward... Although I have not listen, I find that It is so creative and I think It will be a bit eerie too.... :oops:

Jay Tai Diao Liao.... :)

Jam
08-05-2003, 12:16 PM
hoho!! i heard it ! i heard it!! how did you guys discover? This is absolutely diao!! No one have ever thought of this before huh? Guess the lyricist will be angry... coz Jay sing one part of it backwards... :laughing:

Jewel_Dust
08-05-2003, 12:54 PM
I think the lyricist wouldn't be angry about it because they don't even know about it.

I haven't heard it yet either,but I'm going to try as soon as I have time.Now that is cool.Playing the song backwards and then being able to hear him sing 'Ni Ting De Dao'.

Jam
08-05-2003, 12:56 PM
Those who haven't hear it, can listen from here (http://www.geocities.com/lohjamie/ntdd.html).

You need flash player to hear it. Coz the thing is in .swf format.

coldmetaljay
08-05-2003, 03:42 PM
Those who haven't hear it, can listen from here (http://www.geocities.com/lohjamie/ntdd.html).

You need flash player to hear it. Coz the thing is in .swf format.

TOTALLY AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!! :excited: :excited: Thanx for the link!! I has just completed downloading goldwave for the sake of listening the song backward when i saw your post and i try it!! Gosh it is really true!!! No wonder I dun understand what Jay was mumbling for this part even with the my lyrics book!!! He is really a genius who like to give fans surprises!!! wonder how is he going to sing this live :wink2: Nah i think he will just sing the normal version :D

wackycashew
08-05-2003, 07:13 PM
yeah, i heard about this backwards thing from the fans over at the alfa music forum. didn't understand initially what i was supposed to use until i figured out it meant "sound recorder". you guys can convert mp3 to wav with "musicmatch jukebox" if you got it, after ripping off the track from your CD. people thought that jay forgot the lyrics or something around 2:10 into the song. heehee... :bleh: i heard that on a TV interview, fans asked him about it. he said that he wanted a part in the song where only "he could hear" it. didn't know the fans would notice. haha... :laughing: but we did! so, i think the backwards thing was intentional. :) jay's so innovative with his music, eh? anyway, i think someone else already posted the procedure with the use of "sound recorder" and there's a link above for swf. happy listening!

Chun Li
08-05-2003, 07:26 PM
Missy Elliot sang her rap backwards too.

Jingle
08-05-2003, 07:28 PM
whoa~~~~ this is mega coooool!!!!! so special!!!! thanks for the link Jam! I just can't believe what that mumbling was before......this is so cool. Thanks again for sharing this surprise :excited:

Zell
08-05-2003, 07:35 PM
Hey thanks Jam!!I love you so much that you let me have the chace to listen to backward version.Coz I have tried to find the programme but my effort was in vain.Yeah I have heard the backward version,thanks agian mate!

nueng
08-05-2003, 07:54 PM
Ohhh!! Wooow!!! What a great idea!!
He's so cool, totally 'DIAO'.
Don't know how to say nowww~ I love it!!!! This is so special~

And.....yep Missy and the other artists too~ :D

Thanks to 'Jam' for the link!! :love:

NikeSwooshIn
08-05-2003, 08:00 PM
freak! that is soo cool! luv much jam

boogzaiyo
08-05-2003, 08:17 PM
thanks a lot for the tip, al911. i have jetaudio, so i just used that to convert it to .wav.

so anyway, that is hella creative!! and im wondering how in the world someone could figure out that backwards thing, because that is so unbelievably random :happy:

09
08-05-2003, 09:13 PM
hehe cool... very interesting ^^"

ramen
08-06-2003, 07:57 AM
Haha...VERY interesting...last time i was listening to tat part with a friend and i thought it sounded like he reversed the words...heh

JianDan[Ai]
08-06-2003, 08:10 AM
ROFLMAO thats awesome...jay is so weird ...in a good cool way...and always full of surprises...i like that :D

tongzilla
08-06-2003, 08:18 AM
I heard it, but the "ni neng" bit sounds very ambiguous...

jaypop
08-06-2003, 08:30 AM
Just Listen It... Very Special..
I really hear the word "Ni Ting De Dao" at 1.40mins of the playing backwards
Tai Diao Liao!!!!

june
08-06-2003, 08:40 AM
LMAO~~ this is so diao....

it's like jay singing ENYA's songs....LoL

GUYS, try listening backward some other jay's songs.... wahhahaha :laughing:

for example like dong feng bo... LoL

i think i'm gonna save it down and out it inmy MP3 player.... wahhahaha ^o^

JianDan[Ai]
08-06-2003, 08:46 AM
jus curious...how exactly would u go about listening 2 it backwards :?
cuz i would like 2 hear it myself ^^

june
08-06-2003, 09:00 AM
okok.... i'm gonna upload in the downloads section so u guys hear it... LoL :laughing:

burnburn
08-06-2003, 09:24 AM
haha.
so everyone one is gonna listen to his song's backwards?
lol... i didn't even know it's mumble, cause i dun understand mando! :-p
haha.
but of course, when i'm following it in pinyin... it's not there ;-)

jakinni
08-06-2003, 09:49 AM
I heard it, but the "ni neng" bit sounds very ambiguous...

Yeah, using Jam's flash, after repeated listens, I've only vaguely picked it up once. :hmm: But then again, that line is very obviously much more mumbled than any other line. I mean the line right after it is so much more clearer. I will give it more listens.

burnburn
08-06-2003, 11:47 AM
haha, simpsons was on just then...
hehe, and it was the episode when Bart and fellas make a boy band... with the chorus as:

YVAN EHT NIOJ

hahaha... if u don't get it... read it backwards :bleh:

see, Jay's not 'that' original :angel:

m o n k e e
08-06-2003, 12:04 PM
OH!! i hadnt been on since da weekend, n i finally worked out wat that wierd part was in ni ting de dao! n den i come on here, and every noes about it >.< and i thought i was really smart and special hahaha!!

xiaoli
08-06-2003, 01:47 PM
lmao burnburn, I just watched that episode as well, and Jay's song is exactly what I thought of. :laughing:

catseyes
08-06-2003, 07:01 PM
I heard his live for this song, he didn't sing that certain part backwards then....

But i realised this is so cool, so i learn how to sing it in reverse already~ :laughing:

So.... 只有你能聽得到 becomes 到得聽能你有只~ Really a great idea to insert this part because this is related to the lyrics~ :happy:

tongzilla
08-07-2003, 03:42 AM
So.... 只有你能聽得到 becomes 到得聽能你有只

but not only do you have to say the words backwards, you also have to make the pronounciation backwards too....which is damn hard!! Otherwise it wouldn't say 只有你能聽得到 when you play it in reverse.

I think Jay must have used some mixing software program to do it...

beckkeong
08-07-2003, 04:03 AM
all he needed to do is record a line of that song.. then revese the recording.. and just cleverly insert it into the song with the right timing.. its simple really..

tongzilla
08-07-2003, 04:20 AM
all he needed to do is record a line of that song.. then revese the recording.. and just cleverly insert it into the song with the right timing.. its simple really..

but if he did do that, then why doesn't it sound 'proper' when we reverse the original?

GuArDiAn AnGeL
08-07-2003, 09:10 AM
thnx lepencil...hehe...didn't know that...but i did realize that he mumbled "ni nun tin de dao" i was like....lol....neways....thats cool..to know..thnx a bunch lepencil..hhehe

bumble
08-07-2003, 10:37 AM
what do i do after i downloaded the gold wave thing?? go to effect then.......

tongzilla
08-07-2003, 10:51 AM
bumble, pls read instructions on the first page of this topic.

But I'm so nice, so I'll tell you again...

convert to wav. file, then go to "sound recorder" under accessories folder.

Simply select "reverse" (under the "effects" menu) and there you go...it's so simple...

btw, the "unmumbled" bit is heard at around 97 sec in the reverse mode.

babyxv
08-07-2003, 12:09 PM
Missy Elliot sang her rap backwards too.

OH! i thought she just felt like rapping a bunch of jibberish.

that's hecka weird. and the most creative thing i've ever heard. i gotta listen sometime

cloUdsuRFer
08-07-2003, 12:48 PM
Missy Elliot sang her rap backwards too.

OH! i thought she just felt like rapping a bunch of jibberish.

that's hecka weird. and the most creative thing i've ever heard. i gotta listen sometimelol...yeah...i heard that...on like rick dees or something...its pretty cool....too bad i can't remember what she was saying.....

rou
08-08-2003, 12:04 PM
hahahahaha jay is so so so cute!!! i wonder who ever thot of giving his fans surprises like this...

papillon
08-10-2003, 09:04 AM
J/w, I heard the song in reverse and has jay confirmed that he intentionally put in a reverse lyrics? Or is this all hypothetical and coincidence? Kinda how like if people believe in something enough they begin to hear it? Like in the 1960's when people believed that Beatle songs had hidden meanings, but they were actually just fanatics who over analyzed a song.

bumble
08-14-2003, 05:33 AM
tongzilla.....thanks for being so nice..heheheh
but something wrong with my sound recorder so cant hear it...too bad

jackichen007
08-17-2003, 07:31 PM
oh man no wonder...i was listening along and then i heard extreme mumbling (although it is his style), but yeah, couldn't understand at all. how did you guys figure that out? GENIUS.

anyways, it kinda reminds me of that one missy elliot song where she sings backwards too. but that just shows how cool jay is :) haha skillz with the backwards singing..

jessca
08-18-2003, 09:44 PM
So THATS what it is!! I know im bad at mandarin but normally i can make out the pronouciations of the words but that bit had me stumped! catseyes..did you ever check for me? :?

Very clever....thanks for the link too!!

vIoLeT
08-20-2003, 02:11 PM
OMIGAWD the work of a genius! :p ur rite...it soundz sumfink like tat :p

tigerLily
08-23-2003, 03:26 PM
OH my goodness!! I didn't know that!! I gotta download the program to listen to it! He's really so creative! No one would ever think of doing that except him! it's really like only YOU can hear it kinda thing

muzikanjel
08-23-2003, 03:29 PM
i heard it heard it heard it!!! sooo kool! its at 2.10-2.13! how can he say it bakwards tho..? my sis thinks ppl did it with comps and effect...i duno... :?

lladee
09-08-2003, 05:51 AM
hey i think the backward playing thing is so damn cool!! sorry but i get fascinated really easily :|

vivien
09-10-2003, 01:01 PM
hey i think it's so cool becos at that very part the lyrics was about how only you can hear it, so it's like a password to the girl that only the girl knows what he is saying. and it's backwards just at that very line. i always liked that song, but now i like it even more! hey thanks to whoever found out the secret, so now it's not "only you can hear it", it's the whole of jay-chou.net plus all his fans! wow, what a great title, i was wondering why he chose that phrase as the title, cos it's not particularly outstanding. now the title fits in with the whole code thing... COOL!

Nikki
09-10-2003, 05:07 PM
Jam, thx for telling me and the link... :ohmy: It's fantastic!

qi_guai_nu_ren
09-10-2003, 07:20 PM
lol tht is like so damn diao of jay to have this kind of thing in his album..veryy creative and clever...u kno...cos of u can't hear what he's singing and he's actually singing you can hear it...lol wacky sense of humour

jessica
09-19-2003, 01:35 AM
ohhh, so that's what he said! :oops:
when i first listened to this song with the translation, i thought he skipped a line... it's been bugging me for a while now.
ah, so clever of him to add in a hidden message :blush: ... it really fits in perfectly with this song!
i don't think i'll ever figure it out if you ppl didn't post in this thread.
thanks a lot! :happy:

QS
09-19-2003, 02:29 AM
whoa that's pretty cool, i would of never thought of listening to it backwards. I wonder what other surpruses he has in the album...

Cyn
09-24-2003, 12:01 AM
....OMG....i never would of noticed tis! ...OMG...tis is so kewl! :excited:
Thanks for telling!! *runs to listen to it...* :happy:

Chopstick
09-24-2003, 04:22 PM
thanks for the link!!!!!
This is so great...I didn't know about this until you guys talked about it...
I wonder what other surprises or bonuses there are in his CD though...

louislpk
09-29-2003, 05:55 PM
here is a wav version.
http://deep-space.port5.com/ithearcanyouonly.wav
hope it works~~


damn it is totally coool, it's very cool. I read in Matilda Tao's interview with Jay about some secrets in this song. Now look at this cool thing. I totally love this song now, it's awesome. :cry: so impressed


jay is far too good. i am really impressed. no, he doesn't need a rest. he is still 100%. maybe 102% already.


~~~ :yeah: Jay~


[EDIT: JianDan[Ai] said it doesn't work at the moment. I think server is down.. hope it'll be back up soon]

[EDIT2: Yea it works now~ go try it :)] :excited:

JianDan[Ai]
09-29-2003, 05:56 PM
here is a wav version.
http://deep-space.port5.com/ithearcanyouonly.wav
hope it works~~



hmmm...i dun think it works ><

keL-
10-03-2003, 10:25 AM
WAh :excited: this is koo. he kinda mumbles tho. i didnt try listenin to it bakwards yet...gunna go dl the program thing later...mayb theres a lot more bonuses stuf fin the other songs...
...=.='

vunsin
10-12-2003, 09:32 PM
Har... I didn't even pay attention to that part until I came across this thread. My ears have already been very well-trained by Jay to accept his unintelligible lyrics. I don't go like, "what?! I don't get this..." anymore. I'm used to his mumbling and sometimes jumbling of 3-4 words into 1 syllable. So, I just don't QUESTION his lyrics or how he sings them anymore!

Anyhow, it's really cool how this was done. My first reaction was, "How naughty, Jay!" Haha... Pulling a "prank" like that... It's quite fun though. :) I never really dare to listen to songs backwards because I remember when I was younger and still attended church every Sunday, I'd been told many times that some lyrics contained the messages of the devil when played backwards. Eww... And I've also read somewhere that it could be a very powerful hypnotic tool! I don't really believe in god anymore, but I'm still not going to try and play songs backwards.

louislpk
10-13-2003, 10:42 AM
vunsin:

haha~ I heard that also when I was younger. but it applies for metal / hardrock music and such. It's just a way those satanic musicians put their music so that we unconciously "get" the meaning of the lyrics. Listening to Jay's song backwards is unharmful, you can hear clearly what he is trying to say. :)

jessica
10-30-2003, 07:56 PM
here is a wav version.
http://deep-space.port5.com/ithearcanyouonly.wav
hope it works~~

oh thanks a lot!
i can finally hear what he said. :happy:

pop
10-31-2003, 05:13 PM
secret details like this are good but if it is not discovered it will only lead to confusion..

fangtasyz
11-06-2003, 07:49 AM
thanxs jam for the link..now i finally know what jay is mumbling about..whenever i listen to that song, i'm always wondering what he is mumbling about..i thought he forgot the lyrics or something, but now i know..interesting..heh

sweet_angel8
11-07-2003, 04:35 AM
that's pretty interesting, at first I just thought it was Jay's usual "mumbling style" lol hope there's more surprises on the album to be found! =D

Odium: De_Vangelis
11-07-2003, 01:07 PM
Hehehe...cool. I like it. My sister couldn't believe that the backward version is what Jay really sings. Overall, It is cool and funny to hear it for many times ^_^

j161a831y
03-26-2004, 10:26 AM
I didn't know that! I just thought Jay was mumbling more than usual and after pondering about it for a few times I dismissed it. Maybe he got the idea from satanic music? Coz I heard my mom say some satanic people will record demonic messages and reverse them to make songs. The songs will often be rock and there'll be this voodoo beat or something that hynotises the listeners.. just like what vunsin said.

oneluv4jay
03-26-2004, 10:57 PM
WOW..... that's sooo COOL!! :excited: :excited:
I DIDN"T KNOW THAT UNTIL NOW!! But shoot.... I am in the library right now... dun have his cds with me.... although I was gonna get them this mornin'... but I am just wonderin'... (dun mean to start a whole can of worms) that 'zhi you ni neng ting de dao' part... is it the part where he sings the song the second time? Like the beginnin' of that part...? like that something 'mor eh ni mor yea' << Hope you know what I mean... cuz after I read it again... i think it sounds very weird... it's not pin yin or anything....

But wow...!!! I listened to that track like SO MANY TIMES... AND I DIDN'T CATCH ANY BACKWARD STUFF..... I really g2 go home to check that out!!~

jes!
04-20-2004, 08:59 AM
wow!!! somebody back masked jay's songs!!! at least it still has good mesages!@!!

shiroyume
04-20-2004, 11:24 AM
wahhhh realli? hm okaii
im going to dl a proggie noww..=P
eheh i hope i can hear that part&gt;&lt;"
thnks for htat=P

tygnehc123
10-23-2004, 09:22 AM
WoW!! a secret msg indeed.. then this song got a lot of meaning lo. Its Zhi you ni ting de dao .. that means u need to know that the song needs to be reversed then can ting de dao..!! :excited: smart .. :bleh:

Yuki
10-23-2004, 09:54 AM
Whoa.... I wonder if Jay knew we would find out anot? I mean.... that mumbling part made me so confused last time.... and now the truth is FINALLY uncovered.... it really does sound like a 'mumbled" Zhi You Ni Neng Ting De Dao.... THX SO MUCH to Jam for the link..... I wouldnt have been able to hear it otherwise..... Man.... gotta Love Jay more for being so creative.....^^

ahya88
10-23-2004, 02:35 PM
hahaz.. heard of it long ago.. when i juz got tat album.. i listen to it from net.. backwards i mean.. coz i was wondering wat was he mumbling abt in d actual song.. den found out tat it's actualli backward de.. hahaz.. thankz to jayzai..

rainbowballoon
10-23-2004, 02:53 PM
My sis alerted me to this post in all excitement.. and i must say this is so damn COOOL!!! Jay is such a genius and thanks to whoever made the website and also to Jam for providing the link to the super coool page. 's such an amazin discovery! w00t! =D

ask4more_jay
10-24-2004, 06:11 AM
no wonder~ when i was listening to it i was like...uh...what's up with this? is there problems with my CD player? thkz~ that's soooo creative of him (or company whatever) thkz for telling us~

gCjs84
11-25-2004, 05:49 AM
O... now I know the truth... I initially thought it was done on purpose to just ramble something but hey, now it becomes kinda cool!!! Wow!!!

Secret signal... kinda like the movie Hidden track huh??? :wink2:

xiezhi_renfu
11-25-2004, 11:15 AM
Cool!! I didn't know that's zhi you ni neng ting de dao! Then i just followed and sing that sentence backwards whenever i listen to discman!!

I shall go try out myself! Thanks by the way

eimiie
11-25-2004, 09:00 PM
haha.. i listened to the song playing backwards and i had to play it over 5 times before realizing that he was singing something. i dont think that jay did that on purpose. lol.

wackycashew
11-25-2004, 09:09 PM
:crazy: this was posted over a year ago, guys. i guess nothing was done about it when it was bumped up earlier. but it's november now. this isn't necessary to comment on. just read the content of the posts and digest the knowledge. please don't bump up old posts. always check the first post for date of original post. thanks. :wink2:

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