The future of Asian American, in society and media, where are we now?

[zhy378]

When we think of asian Americans, we think of those “quiet, :angel: good-manner, hard-working, smart-ass people”.if you look up asian american in world book encyclopedia , you can tell most of the stuff that asian Americans have gone through seem quite related to Chinese and Japanese people. However, not everyone are Chinese and Japanese, or smart, etc. not all of us are going to be engineers, doctors, etc. :grad:
Luckily, now these days, you can see a little rise from the asian society in america, from import movies from asia like Hero, to an asian american movie Better Luck Tomorrow to Jin, the Chinese-american rapper, Dat Pham stand-up comedian including those Asians ones on the local or national news as reporters. :happy:
But what I do hate :dry: is how asian Americans are portrayed in our entertainment industry. For the ladies, asian women, we are played as sexy, :whistle: sex objects. As the song “Asian for the Man” by Yellow Peril, "Many Asian sisters made to Hollywood hos, Pimped by the industry fulfillin white fantasy". Take Kalia Yu for an example, a “ singer, model, actress”, she got where she is by sex appeal ( even though sex is what appeal to us the most in america), she started her fame by being in playboy. No wonder, when girls tell guys they’re asian, they would be responding like “ …….mmm :drool: … :brows: asian girls are hott” ewww…perv :rasp: While, for the guys, they’re like almost as :glug: nobody, unless they’re seen as computer nerds :geek: , martial art :nunchuks: , immigrants in the media. I just wish that we don’t need to be porn stars :crazy: :bigyuck: or sing like William Hung :sing: to make it into America’s world of fame.

I could go on with this forever, but in my opinion, we are gradually rising up our representation as asian american. Like take television for an example I would say in fifty years, hopefully we would have an asian cast show, just like how there used to be very few African american cast show in the 80s+90s and now they got their own channel like BET, or they’re on UPN and now there’s even more Hispanic-cast show, etc………………………………..so yeah….. What do you guys think of the asian American’s identity of today?

After all we are 4.21 percent of America’s population, 11.9 million (u.s. bureau 2000 survey) :shifty:

[countess]

hmm i think what you bring up is a really interesting issue..even though i don't live in America i guess its alright for you guys to get a different perspective (from aus). I actually have always believed that Asians will be the new America in the next 10 to 20 years or maybe a little more. There are some obvious signs that point me to this view. it is because of the economic rise of Asia in the past decade...to be more specific iam saying China, because it has taken a while for connections to be made since the cultural revolution ended. etc. i am not sure zhy378 if this is what you mean.
Entertainment wise i think Asians will eventually get their share of spotlight like the Latin phase of the 1990's and the r&b and hip/hop scene that we have today.. taking r&b for an example..it did take a very long time to get to the stage it is at this moment..considering the african americans started off by singing gospel songs and blues..then it eventually evolved into the jazz stage...then finally r&b. There are some artists in Asia like David Tao and Leehom (trying not be biased here) who have continually pushed for this revolution of Asian music to be sent into the Western stage. And i think by every album they are getting one step closer... wat can we do as Asians in foreign countries to help create a firm image of the Asian? I guess its to support the values which we truly believe in as Asians and in time, a change will be noticed..

[jaychou_21]

Thanks,zhy378 for this interesting topic you brought up -
just in time with the celebration of the Asian Pacific American Heritage Month in the US.
I personally do think that Asian Americans,or Asians for that matter,are being left out.
Asian Americans play a vital role in America and the rest of the Western world.
May it be in the society,media,or any aspect of life,the American dream wouldn't
be fulfilled without even the most diminutive part of Asian blood.
Asian Americans have gone far in the rather messy world of American media.
Just take a look at some Asians who made it big in the US - the legendary Bruce Lee,American Idol season 3 finalist Jasmine Trias and Idol wannabe William Hung,Jackie Chan,Jet Li,Zhang Zi Yi,and even Jay Chou is gaining popularity in Uncle Sam's territory.They may not be household names in America but they have proven that Asians have a say when it comes to the booming world of entertainment.
In terms of filmmaking,Asia has a lot of things to boast.
Crouching Tiger,Hidden Dragon,which happens to be my most favorite movie of all time,
racked up 10 Academy Award nominations in 2000 and even grossed a whopping $153 m
in the US alone.I could go on forever so I think it would be better if I post a list of notable Asian American who made huge waves in the US.And I would also like to remind everybody that May is Asian Pacific American (APA) Heritage Month—a celebration of Asian and Pacific Islanders in the United States.

Notable Asian Americans in the US (aside from those mentioned above)

Dean Cain,actor (part Japanese)
Tai Carrere actress (Filipino)
Joan Chen,actress, director (Chinese)
Margaret Cho,actress, comedian (Korean)
Dwayne (the Rock) Johnson, wrestler, entertainer (half-Samoan)
Ang Lee,director (Taiwanese)
Brandon Lee, actor (Hong Kong?)
Lucy Liu, actress (Chinese?)
Utada Hikaru,singer (Japanese)
Mira Nair,film director (Indian)
Sandra Oh, actress (Korean)
Lou Diamond Phillips, actor (Filipino)
Aishwarya Rai,actress (Indian)
Keanu Reeves, actor (Lebanese)
Lea Salonga,actress and singer (Filipino)
M. Night Shyamalan, film director and screenwriter (Indian)
Wayne Wang,film director (from Hong Kong)
John Woo, film director (Chinese)
Sandra Tsing Loh,writer,performer,radio program host (Chinese?)
Yo Yo Ma,cellist (Chinese)
Camile Velasco,American Idol season 3 finalist (Filipino)
Josie Natori fashion designer (Filipino)
Jocelyn Enriquez,singer (Filipino)
Ernie Reyes,Jr.,martial arts champion turned actor (Filipino)
Yoko Ono,singer (Japanese)
Vivienne Tam, fashion designer (Chinese)
Vera Wang, fashion designer (Chinese?)
Monique Lhuiller,in-demand Hollywood fashion designer (Filipino)
Enrique Iglesias,singer (half-Filipino)
Akira Kurosawa,director (Japanese)
Michelle Yeoh,actress (Malaysian)
Chow Yun-Fat,actor (Chinese?)
Norah Jones,singer (half-Indian)

That's all I can think of now.Feel free to cite other US-bound Asian Americans,too.
They are just some of the numerous Asian who changed America's perception of Asia.
Most of them came from the world of entertainment.
I didn't include those in other categories such as sports,business,science,etc.
I'm proud of my Asian roots and we must.
If you have queries about the personalities mentioned above,just PM me if you are interested.

[wrx'03]

I think that Asian men have essentially two roles in American media/movies. The first role is a kung-fu martial artist that can kick some butt and the second is a dork. Better Luck Tomorrow is the only movie that I can think of that portrays real life Asian people, but it was an Independant film that got very little national exposure.
Asian women have two more well known roles as well. The first is a sex object and the second is a dork as well.

[zhy378]

i dunno, but sometimes i just feel like there's a confusion with asian american identity, like do we leave our ancestors' customs to be more american or should take pride, flashing our azn-ness with us whereever we go. like look at those people with european ancestors, they're all blended in......... :whistle:oh well, its still hard to tell now...

[abcd]

asian americans are criticized often....and a lot of people tend to categorize them into the same group...That is that we are all braniacs that get all the jobs in the medical field, in the law field, etc...
It will take some time before asians become more common in the entertainment world but it will definetely happen.

[KendoTiger]

One reason that we still don't have a "representative" image in american media is that the actors who play these roles are more concious about portraying asian americans in a good light. Often, an actor/actress will not take a role that they view as demeaning towards asians.

Ethnicity-wise, I thought we were more inclined towards these positions, merely because our parents force us too. o.O

[junnleenfaah]

actually.. there IS a TV channel that is entertainment from asians only. its on cable.. it used to be called international channel, but now its called Azn [omg, i laughed like CRAZY when i saw the name] Television or something like that [if you live on houston, its cable channel 75] they even have a show especially directed towards the young generation of Asian Americans [like teenagers, early 20s] called Stir. check out the website: Stir TV (http://www.stirtv.com)

but besides that.. you know what i despise the most? how for small parts in movies, they usually use asian women as prostitutes in their movies. okay seriously, its not our fault the damn people were racist and wouldnt let the minorities have jobs that didnt require the removal of clothes or sexing up men. GAH! it sickens me.

which leads me to this- kaila yu isnt that talented and is a terrible singer and shouldnt be a role model to anyone because the only reason why she's famous is cuz she's selling her body

[scarletwillow]

Asian American youth are, in the majority, a bunch of retarded preppy kids that think they're invincible and lack any identity. They want to blend in, and if they don't want to blend in, they form "unique" cliques that just end up imitating other races. We all have our chiggers, wasians, and whatever.

Junnleenfaah, the reason Asian girls get the slutty parts is because a large majority of Asian women are slutty, money-whoring, subservient, and stupid.

Challenge my views if you'd like, people.

[junnleenfaah]

sorry to offend anyone, but, latinas = more slutty than asian women

and i dont see many latina prostitutes in movies, or am i missing out on too many movies?

[scarletwillow]

sorry to offend anyone, but, latinas = more slutty than asian women

and i dont see many latina prostitutes in movies, or am i missing out on too many movies?

This comes out to a question of aggressiveness.

Black people consider white people to be passive, while Asian people consider white people to be aggressive.

We as a race are not aggressive--most of us do not give a damn on what the media thinks of us, because we're all caught in our little bubble. The US media can do whatever the hell they want with us, because we *allow* it.

Everytime a black is portrayed wrongly on US media, the entire black community lashes out. How many times has the Asian community lashed out at something? Wait... uh... is there an Asian community nationwide?

And therein is your problem.

[judes]

SW, explain what it means to be of the Asian culture then.
what is Asian identity? i don't see a clear definition anywhere.

[scarletwillow]

Well, for starters, it means not trying to be white, black, or hispanic.

It means keeping the culture and traditions of your home country.

I know plenty of stupid Chinese girls who call themselves white. When I say "call themselves white", I mean that, literally.

PS:
Unfortunately, part of the distinction in being an Asian youth nowadays involves having multiple X's in your screenname and typing like a retard.

[dagamezmasta]

Asian American youth are, in the majority, a bunch of retarded preppy kids that think they're invincible and lack any identity. They want to blend in, and if they don't want to blend in, they form "unique" cliques that just end up imitating other races. We all have our chiggers, wasians, and whatever.

lol fortunately i'm not part of that majority.. but it doesn't seem, at least in my residence, that asian americans are unlike that. many of the asians i know are proud of their culture and roots. maybe it's just because i'm in a really sheltered place.

asians seem to be taking a more progressive role in america, but i just hope that, because of their apparent future success, they will lose their original identity and culture and become white.

i hope not to offend anyone here, but i just gotta say this. because i'm asian, i often feel superior to other races.. maybe that's just something my chinese parents taught me to be... they're always insisting that Chinese are the geniuses of the world.. i dunno.. but personally, i feel asians are better educated and their culture/traditions somehow leads them to being, as some might say, "better than the rest."

i hope that asians will not have to become famous or successful by using such techniques as sex appeal and such.

and to end my part of the discussion.. i'd like to say this:

AZN INVASION!!!!

[kewlpiggy88]

PS:
Unfortunately, part of the distinction in being an Asian youth nowadays involves having multiple X's in your screenname and typing like a retard.

that and changing their screennames once a month or something! i'm so glad middle school is over...

[judes]

wouldn't part of growth be to adapt all traits and keep traditions that you think are beneficial to becoming a better person? because i think there are a lot of flaws to the asian mindset.

i've met some asians who are the most close minded and snobby people i have ever met. they think the asian race is the best above all other races, and they have something terrible to say about every race. and they cling to their asian culture like it makes them the best out of everyone just because they're born with that skin color. i find that the biggest load of BS ever. it's just as ridiculous as whites being racist to blacks. and asians complaining about racism when they're also big racists themselves.

i believe that you have to love your culture, your traditions. but i believe you have to be accepting of other cultures as well.

[countess]

Asian American youth are, in the majority, a bunch of retarded preppy kids that think they're invincible and lack any identity. They want to blend in, and if they don't want to blend in, they form "unique" cliques that just end up imitating other races. We all have our chiggers, wasians, and whatever.

Umm..iam sorry scarletwillow, but by saying that aren't you talking about many people of this forum cause iam sure there are many Asian American youths on this site...and personally i don't think your views are of the majority. The majority of Asian youth of today don't think that they are invincible, they don't try to fit into something that they aren't. i think your views are representing the PAST stereotype of Asian American youths...yes maybe when Asian migrants first arrived, their children might have tried to fit in with the others and by this i mean trying to be something they wern't. However these days i think that stage has passed... people are starting to value their own culture and background.
Also due to the increasing support against Racism, American Asians no longer feel as much discrimination towards them as they might have felt say 10 years ago.

i also don't see why you have to use the term "retarded", first of all its highly offensive towards some people who actually have the disease and secondly i don't think you should judge such a large majority of people like Asian American Youths before even meeting 1% of them.

[jaychou_21]

We must admit that Asian womens are becoming more than liberated nowadays;
that's probably the main reason why Asian women are often tipped to play off-beat roles
in the movies or in American TV.If they are not playing prostitutes,they are rather
real life sluts and in return,that gives a badly stained reputation to Asian women as a whole.
Western people would often think that Asian people are always the underdog
and we do not bear the will to compete with them or show them our true identity.

[scarletwillow]

wouldn't part of growth be to adapt all traits and keep traditions that you think are beneficial to becoming a better person? because i think there are a lot of flaws to the asian mindset.

i've met some asians who are the most close minded and snobby people i have ever met. they think the asian race is the best above all other races, and they have something terrible to say about every race. and they cling to their asian culture like it makes them the best out of everyone just because they're born with that skin color. i find that the biggest load of BS ever. it's just as ridiculous as whites being racist to blacks. and asians complaining about racism when they're also big racists themselves.

i believe that you have to love your culture, your traditions. but i believe you have to be accepting of other cultures as well.

There is a big difference between accepting other cultures and imitating them to the point that you lose your own identity. Reminds me of my ex. She's Chinese, born in China, but grew up in America around white people. Never really knew any Asians. I was the first boy she dated. She had a glossy, happy view of Asians, happy view of racial integration, never saw anything wrong with anything until I made her get a Xanga, and she went around looking on Asian people's Xangas, and voila! Crystal world shattered. Great eye opener. I suggest it to ya, hon.

Umm..iam sorry scarletwillow, but by saying that aren't you talking about many people of this forum cause iam sure there are many Asian American youths on this site...and personally i don't think your views are of the majority. The majority of Asian youth of today don't think that they are invincible, they don't try to fit into something that they aren't. i think your views are representing the PAST stereotype of Asian American youths...yes maybe when Asian migrants first arrived, their children might have tried to fit in with the others and by this i mean trying to be something they wern't. However these days i think that stage has passed... people are starting to value their own culture and background.
Also due to the increasing support against Racism, American Asians no longer feel as much discrimination towards them as they might have felt say 10 years ago.

i also don't see why you have to use the term "retarded", first of all its highly offensive towards some people who actually have the disease and secondly i don't think you should judge such a large majority of people like Asian American Youths before even meeting 1% of them.

Do you live in America? No?
-kthxbai

1. Oh nozzz! My views are not of the majority? That's funny, because all I've done is list what Americans think about Asians. Sounds like a majority to me!
2. What you're saying, is that people are becoming less and less integrationist, more and more independent? You don't know much about America...
3. "American Asians no longer feel as much discrimination towards them as they might have felt say 10 years ago." You're right. The amount of niche Asian porn has grown tenfold.
4. I use the term retarded, because it's a good, powerful term.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rhetoric
5. "i don't think you should judge such a large majority of people like Asian American Youths before even meeting 1% of them." Okay, let me tell you something. If you think I don't have the right to form an opinion without meeting every single Asian youth, then this conversation is over. The point is, even if stupid Asian kids aren't the majority, THEY ARE THE PROBLEM, and THEY CREATE THE PROBLEMS. W3rd.

We must admit that Asian womens are becoming more than liberated nowadays;
that's probably the main reason why Asian women are often tipped to play off-beat roles
in the movies or in American TV.If they are not playing prostitutes,they are rather
real life sluts and in return,that gives a badly stained reputation to Asian women as a whole.
Western people would often think that Asian people are always the underdog
and we do not bear the will to compete with them or show them our true identity.
We are the underdog, because hell, we allow ourselves to be the underdog. Problem is, no Asians still give a damn about it.

[judes]

She had a glossy, happy view of Asians, happy view of racial integration, never saw anything wrong with anything until I made her get a Xanga, and she went around looking on Asian people's Xangas, and voila! Crystal world shattered. Great eye opener. I suggest it to ya, hon.

explain. show. link.
i'm curious.

i have a glossy happy view of asians too. i've never had a problem with racism and i've lived here for 10 years. i'm pretty whitewashed when it comes to political views and economics, but the way i view the world is extremely conservative/traditional because of my background. i'd like to think i have the best of both worlds.

so you're saying asians should climb on top of other races and wave around a WE'RE NUMBER ONE sign? and i do believe that asian women are grotesquely portrayed as sex objects. yeah, unfortunately, it's asians who make it that way. by segregating ourselves away from the white community, somehow we make caucasians a hot commodity and readily pursued by asian women just because of their rarity in china and taiwan.

i don't support complete integration into western society. but i do believe a lot of asians are at fault here for allowing themselves to climb into a little box and stay there.

[scarletwillow]

explain. show. link.
i'm curious.

i have a glossy happy view of asians too. i've never had a problem with racism and i've lived here for 10 years. i'm pretty whitewashed when it comes to political views and economics, but the way i view the world is extremely conservative/traditional because of my background. i'd like to think i have the best of both worlds.

so you're saying asians should climb on top of other races and wave around a WE'RE NUMBER ONE sign? and i do believe that asian women are grotesquely portrayed as sex objects. yeah, unfortunately, it's asians who make it that way. by segregating ourselves away from the white community, somehow we make caucasians a hot commodity and readily pursued by asian women just because of their rarity in china and taiwan.

i don't support complete integration into western society. but i do believe a lot of asians are at fault here for allowing themselves to climb into a little box and stay there.

Judy:
http://www.xanga.com/search.aspx?type=groups&term=asian

Have fun = )

so you're saying asians should climb on top of other races and wave around a WE'RE NUMBER ONE sign?

Now, where the hell did I say that -_- First of all, I never called for Asian domination--that's just you making assumptions. How are these negative stereotypes being perpetuated by SEGREGATION??? These stereotypes are being perpetuated by...

1. Asian society downplaying womens' roles
2. Asian women being largely uneducated in comparison to Asian men

None of that has anything to do with segregation... this is an INTERNAL problem, changeable only by altering cultural practicies.

[judes]

i wasn't sure what you meant by promoting asian culture and traditions. and with what some of the other kids said in this thread, i was feeling some of the "negative-western-culture" vibe.

so you're saying there's something wrong with the internal structure of the chinese culture.

i think that those two points are problems in all societies still. just to certain extents for various ones.

[KendoTiger]

Something people don't seem to realize right away is that asian people are the most racist people on earth ~ jeez, it's pretty obvious. Why do you think we always follow around black people when they enter our stores? XD

A lot of it that stems from how our culture is set up ~ with a stronger sense of "community" within the family and world. It just happens that with Asian families, a lot of stress is put into how well the family does, how well the children do ~ moreso than other races. This in turn relates to how "strong" the next generation of asian children will become in their drive to succeed and continue with perserving their culture.

I've seen many people who are not asian succeed after going through a "typical asian upbringing", just because they were pushed in the right directions with the right strength. I've seen many asians become dropouts because their parents didn't care enough to put pressure on them.

I always thought of wasians as white people who tried ~ and failed ~ to act asian...

Personally, out of all the asians in my school, only about 5% of asians consider themselves "white" or "act like they are 'white'" ~ that's 4 people.

If you go back to before the 60's ~ its easy to see why migrant asians tried to act american ~ they were hated if they did anything "asian". Just look at the chinese exclusion acts ~

We create our own problems....? I'm confused....

Little box? Please explain?

"The amount of niche Asian porn has grown tenfold". You would know this how? Then again, it's believable...although it seems american guys only like really ugly chinese porn stars....

woo ~ azn invazn! XD

[judes]

the asian community creates a great sense of pride and strength and to a certain extent, nationalistic feelings for the homeland. but it also instills a great prejudice for other races. i don't like the "whole world is against us" or "you are being racist because i'm asian" streams of thought that's being taught to asian kids around the world. it bothers me that pride for a certain race is not balanced with respect for other races.

when i think about asian porn i think of japan.
and maybe that's where the use of asian women as sex objects came from. or perhaps because white businessmen go to asia to participate in sex tours. or because businessmen would often buy thai or vietnamese brides.

it's a very cultural thing. and caucasians can't understand it.
i can't understand it either. still have a long way to go.

[KendoTiger]

The difference is between finding pride in your race because of your own distinct culture, or finding pride in your race because you believe it is better than the rest.

*Defender of Japanese...um, sexy girls ;D *

That's true ~ although white people also do that in other countries ~ eastern europe and south america come to mind. I think it comes from the whole demeaning position asia was put in throughout the wars. *shrugs* just a thought.

Buy brides? Yeah, how much of a loser would you have to be to do that?

[countess]

1. Asian society downplaying womens' roles
2. Asian women being largely uneducated in comparison to Asian men

Asian women are largely uneducated compared to Asian men? WTH wat century are you talking about?!! Ok maybe if we rewind to a 70yr old Asian couple in US, yes the woman may not be as educated as her husband. BUT you have to look beyond the past!!! This debate is about the future, and we're all trying to talk about the present generation. Look anywhere in the US, i dare you to and try to find statistics that show Asian women to be LARGELY uneducated compared to Asian men.

Also scarletwillow i dont know why you always use Xanga to back your arguments. by using it as an example, it cuts out the majority of Asians, most Asian don't have their own Xanga. And even though i may not live in the US, it doesn't mean i don't have a good perspective of what Asians there are like. If you look around in your hospitals and top jobs, iam sure you'll find an increasing number of Asians sitting in those positions. And no, Asians don't have to be 'nerds' to get there, we're much more talented and are able to enjoy life without succumbing to just one aspect of it.

[KendoTiger]

Actually, when I checked out the xanga site I got mainly "Asian but others can join", one that would fit in the "Are asian girls more attracted to white guys" from the small talk forum, a few wannabe asian ones, and only one site ~ "asians who teach other asians math", which would prove your point. To ensure that it wasn't just the first page, I did some more page scrolling, but it was pretty much the same.

So I was wondering how the xanga reference supports your point. Could you please explain?

[zhy378]

actually.. there IS a TV channel that is entertainment from asians only. its on cable.. it used to be called international channel, but now its called Azn [omg, i laughed like CRAZY when i saw the name] Television or something like that [if you live on houston, its cable channel 75] they even have a show especially directed towards the young generation of Asian Americans [like teenagers, early 20s] called Stir. check out the website: Stir TV (http://www.stirtv.com)

yeah the show is here too, every saturday like around 6 or 7 i think, first show i ever saw that promote asians and asian american showin that not all of us gotta be doctors or engineers but instead could be dj, bakers, comic makers, etc :happy:

[junnleenfaah]

hmm.. just thought of this, but i think joseph kahn, one of the most talented music video directors in the U.S, should get high recognition in the asian-american community cuz he's done an MV for like every single superstar celeb in america, and practically every MV is absolutely amazing.

also, mike [half japanese]and joe [korean?] from linkin park are asian-american influences that're really popular among the rock fans [or whatever catagory you consider them].

extremely talented guys right there. it seems like the asian-american celebs we can think of are pretty diverse in which way they impact our community. perhaps we're not that "unnoticed" as we think we are.

[scarletwillow]

Asian women are largely uneducated compared to Asian men? WTH wat century are you talking about?!! Ok maybe if we rewind to a 70yr old Asian couple in US, yes the woman may not be as educated as her husband. BUT you have to look beyond the past!!! This debate is about the future, and we're all trying to talk about the present generation. Look anywhere in the US, i dare you to and try to find statistics that show Asian women to be LARGELY uneducated compared to Asian men.

Also scarletwillow i dont know why you always use Xanga to back your arguments. by using it as an example, it cuts out the majority of Asians, most Asian don't have their own Xanga. And even though i may not live in the US, it doesn't mean i don't have a good perspective of what Asians there are like. If you look around in your hospitals and top jobs, iam sure you'll find an increasing number of Asians sitting in those positions. And no, Asians don't have to be 'nerds' to get there, we're much more talented and are able to enjoy life without succumbing to just one aspect of it.

Honeybunch, it doesn't take but a look around to verify what I say. It's a social trend, and it's hella true, especially if you live in an area of the United States where there aren't many asians.

Um, and regarding the Xanga thing, it's called "sampling". No shit all Asians don't have a Xanga. Does everyone vote? Do you need to do a census of everyone in order to get the big picture?

Of course Asians are getting up there. Regardless, we're not THERE.

Actually, when I checked out the xanga site I got mainly "Asian but others can join", one that would fit in the "Are asian girls more attracted to white guys" from the small talk forum, a few wannabe asian ones, and only one site ~ "asians who teach other asians math", which would prove your point. To ensure that it wasn't just the first page, I did some more page scrolling, but it was pretty much the same.

So I was wondering how the xanga reference supports your point. Could you please explain?

Most Asians on Xanga are legally retarded.

hmm.. just thought of this, but i think joseph kahn, one of the most talented music video directors in the U.S, should get high recognition in the asian-american community cuz he's done an MV for like every single superstar celeb in america, and practically every MV is absolutely amazing.

also, mike [half japanese]and joe [korean?] from linkin park are asian-american influences that're really popular among the rock fans [or whatever catagory you consider them].

extremely talented guys right there. it seems like the asian-american celebs we can think of are pretty diverse in which way they impact our community. perhaps we're not that "unnoticed" as we think we are.

That's really funny, because they act white.

[KendoTiger]

Unless you know the demographics behind the asian who use xanga, you can't say its a sample ~ at least not one that you can reasonably use.

Legally retarded or white-acting?

[scarletwillow]

Unless you know the demographics behind the asian who use xanga, you can't say its a sample ~ at least not one that you can reasonably use.

Legally retarded or white-acting?

Eh.
Fine, well, my original point still stands.

And no, legally retarded does not mean white acting. Legally retarded means tYpIn lYk DiS y0.

[kewlpiggy88]

new MTV channels: MTV Desi, MTV Chi, and MTV K

these new MTV channels are targeted for Indian Americans, Chinese Americans, and Korean Americans, respectively. read here (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/19/arts/music/19sont.html?oref=login) + photos.

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i took away the article (i copy and pasted text here) cuz i realized it was dammmnnn long. anyway, hopefully you can read it, but i think you have to sign in or something.

[_eLlE-]

lol.. The future in america?? honestly i dunno

but in australia yeh sure i noe.. or my onpion is

dat basically Australia is a multicutral country and no body really cares wat race we are... (Most people don't care). Usually at skool there would be a group who are the azn and then there would be the english, the wogs.. then the mix mix!!!

But what does it matter... at time like school excursion and bludge day.. People from different groups just go around and we just have FUN!!!!.. SO basically.. at my school everyone is like friendly but the divide when sitting lunch togetha. i think u noe what i mean by now....

but if u don't well :dry: i'm too stuff to explain

from elle

btw you guys write long post.. i swear!! I dun read long post!!! lol

[scarletwillow]

Oh, we know.
It's inherent.
Racial separation not by force, but by choice.
It's inherent.

[kewlpiggy88]

did u guys read the article about the new MTV channels yet?? what are your opinions?

[scarletwillow]

http://www.indiantelevision.com/headlines/y2k4/dec/dec117.htm

Oh man. That sounds good.
That sounds real fucking good.

Now all we need is AET.

[kewlpiggy88]

lol i posted the same news a few posts above. i'm actually pretty excited for it...i wonder if they will play jay stuff or anything. and i wonder how to order it....i probably won't be able to get it but whatever.

[fajitapita]

yah i read an article in taipeitimes.com on the mtv channels and was gonna mention it so its cool that someone else brought it up

i think its awesome! mebbe i'll get to finally watch jay mvs on tv! as for the impact it will have culturally in the future, that i have no idea. im glad that we're finally getting some recognition as a minority and finally having something that is geared towards us... but i cant help but think that in trying to appeal towards each minority they are going to produce the shows in a way that relegates us to our stereotypical roles.

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Originally Posted by junnleenfaah
hmm.. just thought of this, but i think joseph kahn, one of the most talented music video directors in the U.S, should get high recognition in the asian-american community cuz he's done an MV for like every single superstar celeb in america, and practically every MV is absolutely amazing.

also, mike [half japanese]and joe [korean?] from linkin park are asian-american influences that're really popular among the rock fans [or whatever catagory you consider them].

extremely talented guys right there. it seems like the asian-american celebs we can think of are pretty diverse in which way they impact our community. perhaps we're not that "unnoticed" as we think we are.



That's really funny, because they act white.

i'm sorry, in what way do they act white? is joe not into anime? did he not travel to japan to help create the "breaking the habit" mv?

did we not see the asian influences in joseph kahn's mvs for mariah in "boy" and janet jackson's "doesnt really matter"?

how do you define "acting white"?

[scarletwillow]

yah i read an article in taipeitimes.com on the mtv channels and was gonna mention it so its cool that someone else brought it up

i think its awesome! mebbe i'll get to finally watch jay mvs on tv! as for the impact it will have culturally in the future, that i have no idea. im glad that we're finally getting some recognition as a minority and finally having something that is geared towards us... but i cant help but think that in trying to appeal towards each minority they are going to produce the shows in a way that relegates us to our stereotypical roles.



i'm sorry, in what way do they act white? is joe not into anime? did he not travel to japan to help create the "breaking the habit" mv?

did we not see the asian influences in joseph kahn's mvs for mariah in "boy" and janet jackson's "doesnt really matter"?

how do you define "acting white"?

I was talking about the Linkin Park people.

Joseph Kahn... isn't that the guy who directed...

http://www.100mov.com/imgfilm/Torque.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0329691/
Wow. #94 on the crappiest 100 movies of all time.

We have a very different concept of what it means to be progressive in media and society.

[fajitapita]

umm... when i said joe, i meant the dj joe hahn from linkin park

and sure torque wasnt the greatest movie, and i havent seen it, but if you read the reviews, most ppl liked the action and the way the film was shot, it was the plot that made it such a crappy movie, hence, it wasnt joseph kahn's fault but rather the writer's. everyone needs to start somewhere, so dont jduge him based on his first movie. when you're starting out you dont really get the best scripts to work with.

[scarletwillow]

Well, if you're talking about Joe from LK, then about all I have to say is that anime is an absolutely horrendous replication of all that is particular to Japan, but not to the rest of Asia, and just because one has an affinity for anime does not create an interest in Asia at all.

Frankly, Joseph K's style of MV doesn't fit movies. It might work for cheesy high-budget Vin Diesel films, of which Torque clearly was a ripoff of, but Vin Diesel wasn't in this one.

And Ice Cube.. that man needs to retire X'D