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ger_jacko
03-03-2005, 08:28 PM
I heard from someone(cant remember who).. that jay used to have autism? That was why he always mumbles even when he was talking and he also that's the reason why he was so shy in the begining..

But is this true??? Personally i think it was just a rumour right?

jiali
03-04-2005, 02:28 PM
Yeah, i think it's a rumour. Jay was just born shy and didn't have the habit of talking much. That's why many people thought he was autistic. :wink2:

hisashiluv14
03-04-2005, 02:58 PM
Uh, no. Time magazine did write that his school teachers thought that he was retarded, but that's about it.

And besides, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you recover from autism. So...

jiali
03-04-2005, 03:30 PM
And besides, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you recover from autism. So...
Hmmm, i guess it depends on how serious that person is autistic. If it's a little, then there are high chances of recovery if he is well taken care of and thought properly. :wink2:

Jie_Lun_Rox
03-04-2005, 03:56 PM
Uh, no. Time magazine did write that his school teachers thought that he was retarded, but that's about it.

And besides, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you recover from autism. So...
yes, u can recover from autism.. if it is not so serious. u need to have a VERY patient person by ur side to help u. :happy:

yukiko
03-04-2005, 04:15 PM
I think it's just a rumour. i remember once i watched his The One concert Vcd. and there's jay's chilhood Clip. and he dun look like autism. i believe he's normal.
and about his mumbling, maybe it's his trademark. some of us has some uniquely daily habit. maybe mumbling is just one of his habit/behave. ^^

laruku
03-04-2005, 05:43 PM
Depends on what you mean by curing. If you mean to the extent that the child is just like any other normal kid, I am very sorry but no. Autism is still unable to be fully cured or treated. It's symptoms can be reduced by medication and/or psychotherapy but there are significant improvements to the autistic child being treated and he/she can often lead a fairly normal life.

And, this thing about Jay being autistic is really BS. Autistic children have the following symptoms:


DIAGNOSTIC CRITERIA FOR 299.00 AUTISTIC DISORDER

A. A total of six (or more) items from (1), (2), and (3), with at
least two from (1), and one each from (2) and (3)

(1) qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by
at least two of the following:

a) marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors
such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and
gestures to regulate social interaction

b) failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to
developmental level

c) a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or
achievements with other people, (e.g., by a lack of showing,
bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)

d) lack of social or emotional reciprocity ( note: in the
description, it gives the following as examples: not actively
participating in simple social play or games, preferring solitary
activities, or involving others in activities only as tools or
"mechanical" aids )

(2) qualitative impairments in communication as manifested by at
least one of the following:

a) delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language
(not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative
modes of communication such as gesture or mime)

b) in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the
ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others

c) stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic
language

d) lack of varied, spontaneous make-believe play or social
imitative play appropriate to developmental level

(3) restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior,
interests and activities, as manifested by at least two of the
following:

a) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and
restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in
intensity or focus

b) apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional
routines or rituals

c) stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g hand or finger
flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)

d) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects

B. Delays or abnormal functioning in at least one of the following
areas, with onset prior to age 3 years:

(1) social interaction

(2) language as used in social communication

(3) symbolic or imaginative play

C. The disturbance is not better accounted for by Rett's Disorder
or Childhood Disintegrative Disorder

Just FYI.

seaweedpatchkid
03-04-2005, 05:52 PM
Yeah, Laruku is right. Autism still has no cure. My swimming coach is a special education teacher and he has autistic students. Jay is nothing like them.

Jay doesn't quite fit that criteria above either, does he? :D

macdawn
03-04-2005, 07:37 PM
There's no cure for autism, but the people who are suffering from the mild form of autism can be taught to overcome this disability, for a lack of a better word.

Shyness does not neccessarily mean the person is autistic. There are a lot of people out there who has the social interaction skills but chose to be a loner. That's their life choice, but not an illness.

-MacDawn